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Paul van Dyk - Another Way



Sasha - Xpander



Tilt vs Paul van Dyk - Rendezvous (Quadrophonic Mix)(This was actually one of the tracks that got me into trance, on Oakenfold's "Tranceport"



Jam & Spoon - Stella

Melodic hook lines repeated throughout a track is what I've always equated trance with...with a track that builds and builds over time with some effects but nothing overdone...basically progressive trance.

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This is trance. About as ''real'' as trance gets. This is pure bliss coming from the speakers right there. And fuck everybody trying to tell me otherwise. Like I am not supposed to like the shit coz it got a JP-8000.

He... you hipsters got it twisted..

Albion Air (1998) = Real trance.

Now You know

Bring on the lasers.

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Originally posted by Lews The "psy shit" and all the goa/acid/psy stuff from the earlier 90s is what I'd consider real trance o.o Anything from Platipus, ever.

no, the goa/acid/psy stuff is goa, acid and psy.

not trance. thats where its roots may be. but its a different thing. don't think some people realise this in their bid to be a purist.


albion - air is probably the best example of pure trance before it went commercial. cracking tune. thats when digweed etc actually played trance in their sets. i remember air was in a GU compilation.


also really like rendezvous. brilliant rasping sound and melody taken from tilt's invisible. nice moody effects and gibbersh vocal. really great trance.

Don't get me wrong, Air is one of my top10 favorite songs and it is an amazing track [and it closed Digweed's Sydney [GU:06] Disc 1].

But real trance is stuff like Red Herring by Union Jack, Age of Love by Age of Love, We Came in Peace by Dance 2 Trance, Deeper Than Deep by Art of Trance, Teleport by Man With No Name, and of course:

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Originally posted by rubez no, the goa/acid/psy stuff is goa, acid and psy. not trance. thats where its roots may be. but its a different thing. don't think some people realise this in their bid to be a purist. albion - air is probably the best example of pure trance before it went commercial. cracking tune. thats when digweed etc actually played trance in their sets. i remember air was in a GU compilation. also really like rendezvous. brilliant rasping sound and melody taken from tilt's invisible. nice moody effects and gibbersh vocal. really great trance.

You obviously don't have a clue at all.
There is nothing called "trance" only. At least not later than the early years of trance when there were no bulletproof borders between the differnt styles. The label "goa trance" is to easier catagorize the different types of trance music. The same goes for the labels "progressive trance, hard trance, melodic trance" etc.

In other words you are totally wrong when saying "goa trance is not trance". Which is quite funny since it's called "goa trance" and not "goa".

Also if you are want the be orthodox and really search for the so called "pure trance" you have to go back to the early years before trance became bastardized and commercialized.

Tracks such as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch6m01zySq0

I think Air and Rendevouz is more progressive trance than it is "real trance". But then again I guess it's all down to definition. If we go by what defined trance in the early 90s I'd say acid/psy/goa trance is more real than prog. Though back then the music on trance-compilations varied from techno to acid house to breakbeat, all over the spectre. When progressive trance came full on it kind of took the role of "real trance", but if you look up the definition of the genre (hypnotizing, dark, driving) - most acid/psy/goa fit the description better.

I'm not saying there aren't hypnotizing dark and driving prog tracks out there - this monster is a good example:

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Originally posted by RebeL9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch6m01zySq0

fuck yeah, great track

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Originally posted by Redd

Few progressive tracks are as hypnotizing and thick as Opera. Easily one of my all time favourites. The closest thing I can think of is Corellian - State of Mind. Also released on Fire.

Cass & Slide were amazing, Opera is a 5 star track.

And man I love Eye Q. Vernon is just another great example from them. Good track.

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Originally posted by Roxy_Cottontail

Great track, but progressive house.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Great track, but progressive house.

How do you make the distinction? Is it the vocals, BPM or something else?

Bullitt - Cried To Dream (Max Graham Remix)


amazing track. this is what I call trance. progressive, moody, mesmerizing and uplifting.

it can be argued what 'real' trance is. for me it has to put you in a trance state (progressive) and then give you goosebumps (uplifting). so for me "real" trance is a mixture of progressive and uplifting. some people will probably say that these two things are separate. but this max graham remix pulls it off nicely.

trance is a state first and foremost.

it is also the name for the best type of electronic music. no matter what your definition of that exactly is... its gonna depend on you. and what pushes your buttons.

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Originally posted by evo8 How do you make the distinction? Is it the vocals, BPM or something else?

Historical knowledge. I'll grant it sounds quite a bit like progressive trance, but it's from 1994 and prog trance didn't exist in 1994. It sounds like a lot of prog house records from that era that were played in prog house sets by prog house DJs.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Historical knowledge. I'll grant it sounds quite a bit like progressive trance, but it's from 1994 and prog trance didn't exist in 1994. It sounds like a lot of prog house records from that era that were played in prog house sets by prog house DJs.

I'm quite sure the version he linked to in the video is the 1996 version of Ajare. It's not as flat as the 1994 version and have a more punch to it.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I'm quite sure the version he linked to in the video is the 1996 version of Ajare. It's not as flat as the 1994 version and have a more punch to it.

Maybe they remastered it a bit, but the version in the video is practically identical to the 1994 version.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Historical knowledge. I'll grant it sounds quite a bit like progressive trance, but it's from 1994 and prog trance didn't exist in 1994. It sounds like a lot of prog house records from that era that were played in prog house sets by prog house DJs.

So, it sounds like trance, but its not? ok then

apart some of the great from the examples posted here.

this. http://www.discogs.com/Ben-Liebrand.../release/790501
ben liebrand's modular 1.

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also this:
http://www.discogs.com/Pink-Elln--A...e/release/97767

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Originally posted by Roxy_Cottontail So, it sounds like trance, but its not? ok then

Well, it sounds more like Stress Records-esque prog house from 1994 than it does like trance in 1994. But that era of prog house had a big influence on late-90s trance, which is why people confuse them.

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Originally posted by evo8 How do you make the distinction? Is it the vocals, BPM or something else?

IMO very similar to some Cappella and Culture Beat tracks, especailly because of the vocals. Indeed BPM, but also in general baseline, chord changes and melody are alike.

I think some tracks actually can be considered closer to trance nowadays than e.g. 10 years ago. At least that's a feeling I got a couple out time lately. Think also many will disagree.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 There is nothing called "trance" only. At least not later than the early years of trance when there were no bulletproof borders between the differnt styles. The label "goa trance" is to easier catagorize the different types of trance music. The same goes for the labels "progressive trance, hard trance, melodic trance" etc. In other words you are totally wrong when saying "goa trance is not trance". Which is quite funny since it's called "goa trance" and not "goa".

I agree, even apart of goa trance many different styles of trance can be considered as 'real trance'.
For example I don't think any of these could be considered not to be:

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