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Posted by ToF on Nov-14-2009 09:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
I've only tried installing the network patch onto XP computers from the Microsoft site, and they check your validation. If it doesn't pass, then no dice.

Is there a way to install 'said patch' manually? Because that would be awesome, and I'd totally buy you a beer.

You shouldn't have to install any sort of patch on the XP machine. If you have SP2 then it should be fine. Are you talking about the networking wizard? I normally manually configure my network so that doesn't need any patch.

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i use win7 32-bit and i'm not going to upgrade (even though i have a 64-bit processor) until 64-bit architecture becomes the norm. i give it another couple years.

If you are going to have more than 3Gb of RAM I suggest you stick with 64bit. 64bit drivers are just as common as 32bit drivers now so there is absolutely no problem.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Nov-14-2009 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by ToF
If you are going to have more than 3Gb of RAM I suggest you stick with 64bit. 64bit drivers are just as common as 32bit drivers now so there is absolutely no problem.


I *do* have 4GB of RAM of which only 2.75 is utilized.. i believe some is being shared with the onboard video card on my laptop though (that IS how it works, right?). i'm more worried about compatibility issues with my DAWs and other apps, i can't risk losing that much work and time due to incompatibility.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-14-2009 10:20:

Don't buy old tech, if i7 is too much, go for an i5. Actually, i7s aren't even that expensive and Intel has more variations coming out soon too.


Posted by ToF on Nov-14-2009 10:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Don't buy old tech, if i7 is too much, go for an i5. Actually, i7s aren't even that expensive and Intel has more variations coming out soon too.

From what I've read i7 isn't that much better. i7 would be more for nerds/enthusiasts/overclockers. i5 will be where the value is for mainstream use.


Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-14-2009 11:15:

quote:
Originally posted by ToF
From what I've read i7 isn't that much better. i7 would be more for nerds/enthusiasts/overclockers. i5 will be where the value is for mainstream use.


i7 = High end (Think the E8xx and Q9xx of recent years)
i5 = Mid-high end (Think the E5xx and Q8xx of recent years)
i3 = Mainstream (Think the E2xx and E3xx of recent years)

I don't know about the prices in Oz, but going on UK prices:

Q8200 - �104
Asus P5Q Pro P45 - �91
4GB Kingston HyperX 6400 RAM (2x2GB) - �76
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA-II - �63
Corsair VX 450w PSU - �56

Total - �392

Alternatively:

Intel i5 750 - �150
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 Intel P55 - �83
OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666 - �76
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA-II - �63
Corsair VX 450w PSU - �56

Total - �430

For the sake of �40, I'd go down the i5 route.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-14-2009 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by ToF
From what I've read i7 isn't that much better. i7 would be more for nerds/enthusiasts/overclockers. i5 will be where the value is for mainstream use.

Currently, because most programs aren't coded to fully utilise the new systems. They will with time so he's future proofing it better with a new chip


Posted by Capitalizt on Nov-14-2009 13:33:

If you're sticking with that video card you don't need anything more than a quality 450-500w power supply. For your primary hard drive, avoid the green drives. They operate at 5400RPM rather than 7200RPM which slows data transfer.. Greens are good for long term storage of music, movies, pics, etc..but for your operating system & everyday programs a quality 7200RPM drive with 32mb cache is the way to go.


Posted by ToF on Nov-14-2009 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
If you're sticking with that video card you don't need anything more than a quality 450-500w power supply. For your primary hard drive, avoid the green drives. They operate at 5400RPM rather than 7200RPM which slows data transfer.. Greens are good for long term storage of music, movies, pics, etc..but for your operating system & everyday programs a quality 7200RPM drive with 32mb cache is the way to go.

Ya, the WD Black Edition (7200RPM) drives are decent. I got it running my OS in my machine.


Posted by DJSoulstone on Nov-14-2009 17:12:

Regarding Win7:
Don't even think of using 32Bit! With that version you can use at max 3.12GB RAM for programs, regardless the amount installed on your system... so if you go for 4GB+ RAM 64Bit is a must.
Win7 itself might still have some flaws, but you should stick to it in future since it's better than Vista. I upgraded to Win7 Pro 64Bit on my laptop and am very happy about it.

btw. check out the Solid State Drives as main partition, if you don't need hundreds of GB space and if you want to have a very fast system.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Nov-14-2009 17:42:

Re: Sushi needs a new computer!

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
This is pretty mush the same a Domesticated's thread a few weeks ago.

Help me build a computer, COR!

Things I already have:

- Extra shit (keyboard/mouse/monitor/DVD-RW etc).
- Case (Antec p-183)
- Graphics Card (nVidia GeForce 9600GT)

Things I would like:

- A good motherboard
- a fast quad-core CPU, but not state-of-the-art (ie. not an i7)
- 4GB of RAM
- A couple of 500GB SATA hard drives (or should I just get a single 1TB drive?)
- Power supply that will run all of the above.

I'm also interested in people's opinions of Win7 Home 64bit.


Have I missed anything? Any help would be appreciated


Seriously, I don't know why people who aren't enthusiasts feel the need to build their own. You'll get far better value for money, and warranty, by buying a complete system from Dell.

End of.

Don't know if they ship to Aus though.


Posted by jonSun on Nov-14-2009 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Is this for your new job as mod in DJ Promotion?


woah.. when did this happen.

no wonder sushi has been pouncing around this place like a hard ass.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Nov-14-2009 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
woah.. when did this happen.

no wonder sushi has been pouncing around this place like a hard ass.


ban.


Posted by jonSun on Nov-14-2009 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
ban.


it's ok. i heard sushipunk smells like bird shit.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-14-2009 21:57:

Re: Re: Sushi needs a new computer!

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Seriously, I don't know why people who aren't enthusiasts feel the need to build their own. You'll get far better value for money, and warranty, by buying a complete system from Dell.

End of.

Don't know if they ship to Aus though.

Of course they do, it's Dell and Australia isn't exactly a 3rd world country.

They are overpriced though. Dells are good but you can get far better bang for buck on desktops from other retailers. Big brand companies are for buying laptops, not desktops.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-14-2009 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
it's ok. i heard sushipunk smells like bird shit.


It's true


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-14-2009 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
i7 = High end (Think the E8xx and Q9xx of recent years)
i5 = Mid-high end (Think the E5xx and Q8xx of recent years)
i3 = Mainstream (Think the E2xx and E3xx of recent years)

I don't know about the prices in Oz, but going on UK prices:

Q8200 - �104
Asus P5Q Pro P45 - �91
4GB Kingston HyperX 6400 RAM (2x2GB) - �76
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA-II - �63
Corsair VX 450w PSU - �56

Total - �392

Alternatively:

Intel i5 750 - �150
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 Intel P55 - �83
OCZ Gold 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666 - �76
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA-II - �63
Corsair VX 450w PSU - �56

Total - �430

For the sake of �40, I'd go down the i5 route.


Thanks Kroot, very helpful

I'm thinking I'll most likely go for the i5, since it really isn't much more expensive, even here in Oz.

I assume an i5 setup like the above would be handled fine by a 64bit OS?


Posted by woscar on Nov-14-2009 22:40:

Re: Sushi needs a new computer!

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
This is pretty mush the same a Domesticated's thread a few weeks ago.

Help me build a computer, COR!


LOL, you don't need a brand new computer for modding.


Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-15-2009 12:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Thanks Kroot, very helpful

I'm thinking I'll most likely go for the i5, since it really isn't much more expensive, even here in Oz.

I assume an i5 setup like the above would be handled fine by a 64bit OS?


Mine runs Win7 64 with no problems at all, and is this:


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-16-2009 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
Mine runs Win7 64 with no problems at all, and is this:


Nice.

Ok, last question for you guys.

Is it worth going for Win7 Pro/Ultimate 64bit, or will the Win7 Home 64bit do the job just fine?

I've had the Win7 beta on my laptop for months now, and it's very nice to use, but the Ultimate version is fairly pricey, and I'll have to buy another copy for my laptop in March when the beta version starts rebooting it every 2 hours


Posted by Slylee on Nov-16-2009 01:47:

soosh! guess what's on FX in 3 min?



The Day After Tomorrow

aww yeauuh!


Posted by ziptnf on Nov-16-2009 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Nice.

Ok, last question for you guys.

Is it worth going for Win7 Pro/Ultimate 64bit, or will the Win7 Home 64bit do the job just fine?

I've had the Win7 beta on my laptop for months now, and it's very nice to use, but the Ultimate version is fairly pricey, and I'll have to buy another copy for my laptop in March when the beta version starts rebooting it every 2 hours

You are solid with the Home edition, the Ultimate Edition sports a high price for not too many extra features.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-16-2009 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
soosh! guess what's on FX in 3 min?

The Day After Tomorrow

aww yeauuh!


Enjoy.

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
You are solid with the Home edition, the Ultimate Edition sports a high price for not too many extra features.


Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking. I mean, I'm not going to be doing anything particularly hardcore or out of the ordinary.


Posted by Lews on Nov-16-2009 02:32:

I'll be picking up Windows 7 Ultimate soon.

w00t student discount!

Really Stu, what will you be doing with this computer, besides modding =p. Anything super intensive?


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-16-2009 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Really Stu, what will you be doing with this computer, besides modding =p. Anything super intensive?


Nothing hugely intensive, save for working with multiple rather large (700MB+) photoshop files for printing. I'm not a gamer anymore, so it's unlikely it would be used for that.

I just wanted something fairly decent so it'll last for quite a while before I need a new one. My current Pentium D is about 3 years old now, I think.


Posted by Lews on Nov-16-2009 02:51:

Then yeah, the i5 sounds like it will be perfect for you. Not too much, cost wise, with a lot of power that will work for a while


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