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Originally posted by palm fuck virus get nord rack 2x. it sounds better.

i think i hear another supersaw thread brewing

It seems hardly anyone comes on here asking how to make a supersaw anymore. Maybe the sound has finally died?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles It seems hardly anyone comes on here asking how to make a supersaw anymore. Maybe the sound has finally died?

Nah, its just that it can be found inside Nexus it seems like people have learned this.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I wasn't insulting you, just asking how anyone can be so ignorant when they've been on here over two years. In future I won't leave any advice for you. Also, I think you'll find its spelt "Fuck" not fvck.

Well my apologies then, I clearly took it as an insult but if it wasnt intended like that my bad. Please feel free to leave advice in the future..

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley I am shocked I am the only person here telling you to get a Virus!!! Especially with you being so undecided. For those who have a Virus TI I guarantee 99% of them would never consider selling it. They are absolute work horses and so powerful man. Please, trust me, get a Virus TI. Get a snow or get a used desktop on ebay . They both go for around $1000. Check novamusik.com for a good snow price I believe they have a B stock of the snow for $999 but it may have been bought by now. I would advise you to get the desktop but the Snow is fine as well. It just depends on how hands on you are wanting to get. The snow is fairly hands on but the desktop is full blown hands on. With the Snow you can assign value parameters to three main things that you like plus still switch through the pages of editing for the respective menu you're on. The menu diving is the best it could be, and you get that even with the desktop. The desktop offers better things like hands on envelopes, effects, lfos, etc. With a snow you would have to assign what you want to edit to each value knob or control it with Virus Control (WHICH IS AMAZING) - Virus Control is a program that allows the Virus to behave like a VST. The virus TI and the VST plug work side-by-side. You can sit there and edit a patch using Virus Control AND the hands on parameter knobs at the same time! Virus Control also offers GREAT functionality for presets and you can easily grab over 10,000 presets. (I can send you them) - Trust me. We have chatted and I know what you like and with you lacking experience with hardware the Virus could not be a better machine to buy. Not only is it better than a Nord2X but it's going to be a much, much better first-buy hardware piece for you. Instead of having to fool around with an audio interface, delays, routing, more difficult part splitting, etc. With the Virus you simply plug it into a USB slot and BAM. With the Nord you'll need an audio interface with analog inputs, some TRS cables, and will have to learn the intricacies of routing with hardware (it can be very frustrating at times) - Now what I just listed before are things you need to learn about, but that can come at a later date. Trust me. GET A VIRUS!!!!!

Thanks a lot bro I really appreciate it.

And for the guy who said (in reference to wileys post) "why are you recommending a virus when he wants a nord". I stated in the post that I had been going back and forth between these 2 for the last 4 years.
The real ultimate reason I decided on the Nord 2 was its $400 cheaper then the snow.
In all honesty I've always wanted the virus but people have always said its the LAST synth theyd recommend for a newbie because its a mfkr to program.
But stephen is actually saying he would recommend it for a newbie.

Whatever the case.


I BOUGHT THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, I'm actually extremely happy I made this thread cause when I first got into hardware (reading and listening to demos) the indigo always use to blow my mind, so I technically have a hardon for virus sounds over nord. I do still appreciate the bass capabilities the nord has. But all in all, I have NEVER been this excited in my life over anything.
I really don't remember getting this excited first time I got laid to be honest, and the total integration really is going to come into use.
I barely slept a minute last night just thinking about the virus being on his way to my house lol. And more then anything, it really is a bug like one guy in here said. I AM NOT going to lose this bug unless I finally get some hardware, its only getting worse at time goes by so I figure this is an essential move on my part.

Gonna be reformatting my pc and getting everything nice and clean for the virus. I will prob be back to bump this thread every 30 secs cause I'm too excited. so bear with me lol

edit: I didn't get the desktop version fyi

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Thanks a lot bro I really appreciate it. And for the guy who said (in reference to wileys post) "why are you recommending a virus when he wants a nord". I stated in the post that I had been going back and forth between these 2 for the last 4 years. The real ultimate reason I decided on the Nord 2 was its $400 cheaper then the snow. In all honesty I've always wanted the virus but people have always said its the LAST synth theyd recommend for a newbie because its a mfkr to program. But stephen is actually saying he would recommend it for a newbie. Whatever the case. I BOUGHT THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol, I'm actually extremely happy I made this thread cause when I first got into hardware (reading and listening to demos) the indigo always use to blow my mind, so I technically have a hardon for virus sounds over nord. I do still appreciate the bass capabilities the nord has. But all in all, I have NEVER been this excited in my life over anything. I really don't remember getting this excited first time I got laid to be honest, and the total integration really is going to come into use. I barely slept a minute last night just thinking about the virus being on his way to my house lol. And more then anything, it really is a bug like one guy in here said. I AM NOT going to lose this bug unless I finally get some hardware, its only getting worse at time goes by so I figure this is an essential move on my part. Gonna be reformatting my pc and getting everything nice and clean for the virus. I will prob be back to bump this thread every 30 secs cause I'm too excited. so bear with me lol edit: I didn't get the desktop version fyi

lol you dont fucking know what you want man - look out for a virus snow on ebay in about 6 months

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox In all honesty I've always wanted the virus but people have always said its the LAST synth theyd recommend for a newbie because its a mfkr to program.

But you're not a "newbie," are you? I thought you've been writing your own tracks for years. And presumably while doing that you've been making at least some of your own sounds, unless you were just reaching for presets every time?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles But you're not a "newbie," are you? I thought you've been writing your own tracks for years. And presumably while doing that you've been making at least some of your own sounds, unless you were just reaching for presets every time?

Yeh you do raise a good point. I think it would be impossible after 6 years to really call myself a newie, but jumping into hardware I still have that feeling of "what am I getting myself into?".

I've seen people on this board who appear to be seasoned amateurs, who have made comments about themselves not being able to deal with virus programming. If you take a synth like sylenth or v-station, something simple to program, I can feel confident 99% of the time with what I'm doing, and I would equate that with something like a Nord (for what it takes experience wise)
If you take a synth like FM-8 or Massive, I know where to start, and I get the basics, but the endless modulating capabilies are where I label myself "newbie". I have no problems tweaking waveforms, envelopes, lfos and other basic programming, but when it comes to the more intricate modulating/routing capabilites I usually steer away from getting that deep into a preset.
And I got the feeling that was something Virus would have a lot of.

So I have a feeling learning the virus in depth is going to be quite a task compared to synths I normally use (sylenth/ablino/etc) but I won't really know till I sit down with it for a few weeks and get a feel for how the menus work.
Kinda hard to explain but I think that should sum up what I mean about the newbie thing..

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Originally posted by evo8 lol you dont fucking know what you want man - look out for a virus snow on ebay in about 6 months

Honestly I've NEVER understood in my life how ANYONE "knows" what they want.

Because I HAVE been listening to both the Nord and Virus and if you want me to be honest I want them both. Its extremely difficult to say "I want this one more because of blah blah". They both sound great imo so its hard to say.

And when I really look at a guy like Alanzo, someone who has prob owned every hardware synth known to man, and I think about how awfully confused he must be (guy gets a new synth every month lol) then I view the confusion I'm experiencing as completely normal.

And in that sense, maybe I will sell it on ebay in another 6 months, but it will still be apart of that life long learning process to discover what sound I'm after and what suits me best. And in that respect I think I made a smart decision. =]

congratz mate ill hope ull be happy with it
i dont think ull ever stop thinking about the nords though, i know i couldnt, and i just needed to have it and try it for myself, it was the only way to kill the urge for hardware to actualy buy and see what it could do for me. i really hope that u get more out of your TI than i did with all the hardware i tried. The Snow was probably a great decision because of USB/VST. Even though it has alot of functions im betting it is easy to program from your computer because of the TI-funciton. GOOD LUCK!

You bought a Virus TI, but you don't have a proper soundcard? I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess you don't have proper monitors either.

As always, epic thread.

lol echo that

as a rule of thumb, taking hardware advice from a noob that has had 1 hardware synth isn't always the greatest plan. But since the deal is done. Enjoy your virus.

LOLOL

p.s. I love tranceaddict

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Originally posted by echosystm You bought a Virus TI, but you don't have a proper soundcard? I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess you don't have proper monitors either. As always, epic thread.

Thanks for having the courtesy not to say something rude. I do have proper monitors but no not a proper card. Its not a big deal to me because I was perfectly content w/out one.
If I need a proper sound card I can get one in a few more months.

For me I just want a different level of sound, I mean listen to this how can you not love that sound? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUif508d-gM

If I can do anything close on the snow I'd be perfectly happy. I've heard a ton with the snow and they all sound great, but alan did a great job with that one virus demo.

Well, ironically, upgrading your soundcard would probably make a bigger impact on your way to achieving that different level of sound . You'd be amazing how much better monitors sound once you get a proper soundcard to go with it.

With all due respecy Robby, my only question to you is do you know how to even program a synth? Especially after your whole mid-bass episode a few months ago...

i have fate in you, dont listen to the tech-geeks and haters, its all about the music and u really dont need a super soundcard in order to make a cool track. to make a perfect mixdown it might help with good soundcard and monitors but everything to its time. i think ull have a better chance than many here just because of your pure obsession with edm seems alot bigger than many others. talent? skill? fuck that, its all about dedication, obsession, vision and creativeism. perfectionism can come later.

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Originally posted by palm u really dont need a super soundcard in order to make a cool track.

Nor do you need a Virus TI. Your post makes no sense.

Great choice dude. Promise you won't regret. Go over to Access Music's website and starting watching their tutorials. You can't become a member of the "club" until you get your unit and its serial #, but you can still go watch the videos, which i highly recommend. You won't be able to sleep until it arrives after watching them.

Again, great choice. You'll thank me later. I'm shocked by some of the responses I've read on here. The elitist attitudes couldn't be more apparent. You are new to the hardware world and you cannot go wrong with a Virus. It's sooooooo much easier to use and arguably sounds better. I don't know where people get off talking smacking. They know damn well the snow is what you should have gotten if you were to choose a synth. No idea why they won't say it.

This thread is funny though. I never intended to title it the opposite of what I actually got.

..well, you gotta start somewhere

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Originally posted by echosystm Nor do you need a Virus TI. Your post makes no sense.

i perfectly know that (and very well too). but when u want a synth its important to just get it out of your system, and only way to do that is to get it and find out yourself that u dont really need it, or in many cases find out that it helps u being more creative. if its smart or not doesnt matter, obsessions must be fed. it might turn out that he manage to make cool stuff with it and what else matter? my own experience is totaly diferent though, hardware totaly killed everything for me and was the most important leasson ive learned of all time. all desire for hardware is gonne (except for the electron machinedrum ), and i can finaly focus on music again instead of gear. worst thing that can happen for robby is that it doesnt work for him, and then its just to sell it. lesson learned, nothing more. if u never try shit, ull never learn either.

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Originally posted by palm i have fate in you, dont listen to the tech-geeks and haters, its all about the music and u really dont need a super soundcard in order to make a cool track. to make a perfect mixdown it might help with good soundcard and monitors but everything to its time. i think ull have a better chance than many here just because of your pure obsession with edm seems alot bigger than many others. talent? skill? fuck that, its all about dedication, obsession, vision and creativeism. perfectionism can come later.

Wow, the is possibly one of the coolest most profound posts I've read in a while. Thank you!

Wouldn't you have been better served to wait a week or more and make an informed decision? You seem to have made an impulse buy and I'm sure most of us can agree that impulse buys often don't work out well.

Too late now. Enjoy your Snow, it is a great synth. I'm just not sure if you really should have bought it so quick.

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Originally posted by echosystm Nor do you need a Virus TI. Your post makes no sense.

Thank you for trying to tell me what *I "need".

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