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Posted by chinamon on Dec-20-2009 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
promise?
if you don't then i'll tell everyone about that micro penis you carry between your legs


pfft. everyone already knows but the ladies still love my grain of rice.
its all about knowing how to use it!


Posted by VDub on Dec-20-2009 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
then it sucks to be you
i'm not agreeing with the police here .. but it was done at zone, then the other place whos name is on the tip of my tongue, hotel .. etc etc .. its nothing new. thats all im saying


So my rights get violated and it sucks to be me you say???

Are you sure you're American and not communist Russian or Chinese????




And btw...

Zone was raided for a very different reason...


Posted by VDub on Dec-20-2009 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
I really enjoy hearing your viewpoints, as I'm glad there are people still holding the state accountable - But if you're fucked off your gourd in the wee hours of the morning in a venue known to engage in these illegal activities, well.. Looks like a duck etc etc.

If for some reason, that someone was "just there for the excellent musical repertoire" or "fabulous social scene" then no harm, no foul. That argument goes right out the window when they search you (with FAR beyond what any JP would feel constitutes reasonable grounds for S&S) and find half a key or whatever.

I'm not saying that the State should have the unfettered right to S&S, but within reasonable grounds? Absolutely. I welcome any 5-0 / border guard / rent-a-cop to search my shit, because they'll find a debit card and a pack of Captain Blacks. Not a metric shittonne of banned substances.


Maybe they should raid the TSE...

I can only imagine the amount of cocaine going around that place...


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
So my rights get violated and it sucks to be me you say???

Are you sure you're American and not communist Russian or Chinese????




And btw...

Zone was raided for a very different reason...


I'm just saying that the situation sucks, the cops are out of line and thats just how it is.

LOL @ me being communist because I'm not throwing an internet rampage.


Posted by VDub on Dec-20-2009 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
I'm just saying that the situation sucks, the cops are out of line and thats just how it is.

LOL @ me being communist because I'm not throwing an internet rampage.


My point is Barb that in our society, the situation isn't supposed to suck...

The cops aren't supposed to get out of line...

They are employed...BY ME... to keep everyone in line...

I don't pay the amount of taxes that I pay for civil servants to break my balls unless they have reason to believe that I...ME DIRECTLY... is doing something wrong...


Posted by Iwasthere on Dec-20-2009 22:12:

It is illegal to search the patrons of a club.


Posted by LightsOut on Dec-20-2009 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Iwasthere
It is illegal to search the patrons of a club.


care to elaborate a bit....


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Iwasthere
It is illegal to search the patrons of a club.


thats what i thought.
most people are too dumb or too afraid to stand up to the cops


Posted by Brennen on Dec-20-2009 22:44:

I wonder if Film will be open on NYE. I like the vibe there I hope they stay open and this is just a bump in the road.


Posted by Iwasthere on Dec-20-2009 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by LightsOut
care to elaborate a bit....


A warrant issued for a business does not include the patrons.
When the CZ raid happened, the officer that processed me said "if you have tabs I'll let you toss em" I reply " I don't have any"

After that exchange, the officer only went into the jacket pocket that I directed him too...containing my ID

The police basically give you a rope and hope you hang yourself.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-20-2009 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Iwasthere
The police basically give you a rope and hope you hang yourself.

Exactly. People are basically assuming that cops busted in and started pulling out people's pockets. It's entirely possible that everybody who was arrested either (a) was visibly sketchy/tweaked, or (b) fell for some stupid cop trick and effectively abdicated their rights.

Think about it - only 15 arrests? There would have been way more than that carrying something. Most were probably quick enough on the draw to avoid search.


Posted by lopi on Dec-21-2009 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
I welcome any 5-0 / border guard / rent-a-cop to search my shit, because they'll find a debit card and a pack of Captain Blacks.

1. They'd also find an iPhone
2. When the fuck did you start smoking
3. I have absolutely nothing of substance to add to this thread.
4. Fuck the Po-lees?


Posted by chinamon on Dec-21-2009 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Iwasthere
When the CZ raid happened, the officer that processed me said "if you have tabs I'll let you toss em" I reply " I don't have any"


haha nice line.
he will let you toss them but then will still charge you with possession when you pull it out of your pocket. they stated nothing about not charging you if you did have something.


Posted by Jer on Dec-21-2009 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by lopi
1. They'd also find an iPhone
2. When the fuck did you start smoking
3. I have absolutely nothing of substance to add to this thread.
4. Fuck the Po-lees?


1. It's in my hands too often to be in my pocket anymore
2. When I drink, I loves me my Captains
3. In Soviet Russia, thread adds substance to you
4. Only if you're straight out of Compton.


Posted by Iwasthere on Dec-21-2009 00:45:

It seems that the police are profiling clubs that that have a certain capacity. Most of the raids over the past two years have been predicted in previous raid threads. Anyone wanna guess who's next?

I guess there really is safety in numbers.


Posted by chinamon on Dec-21-2009 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Iwasthere
It seems that the police are profiling clubs that that have a certain capacity. Most of the raids over the past two years have been predicted in previous raid threads. Anyone wanna guess who's next?

I guess there really is safety in numbers.


i was thinking the same thing. smaller venues are easier for them to handle/control.


Posted by Househead2010 on Dec-21-2009 19:17:

FW and basement is my guess for 2010. Maybe even XS sundays...

Guv should be a safe bet. They would need an army to raid that place.


Posted by jchung52 on Dec-21-2009 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Househead2010
FW and basement is my guess for 2010. Maybe even XS sundays...

Guv should be a safe bet. They would need an army to raid that place.


nice first post


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-21-2009 20:49:

its amazing how people take freedoms for granted and are willing to say "oh well" when they are taken away.

People literally fought wars and died for us to have these freedoms. It is up to us to defend them.

Its disgusting to be honest.


Posted by barbina on Dec-21-2009 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
nice first post


nice sexxyy post
ohh yahh <3 <3


Posted by gl.tch on Dec-21-2009 20:58:

any more news on this story or just more speculation and imagined civil rights violations?


Posted by Dr. Z on Dec-21-2009 20:59:

Thank god for the police. Clean that shit.


Posted by jchung52 on Dec-21-2009 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
nice sexxyy post
ohh yahh <3 <3



Posted by DaRoZa on Dec-21-2009 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
My point is Barb that in our society, the situation isn't supposed to suck...

The cops aren't supposed to get out of line...

They are employed...BY ME... to keep everyone in line...

I don't pay the amount of taxes that I pay for civil servants to break my balls unless they have reason to believe that I...ME DIRECTLY... is doing something wrong...


+1... all of these guys defending the police are lucky they never had to deal with "out of line" behaviour. disgusting serpico style stories go on all the time... guess that means it's always been this way but doesn't mean we should sit on our thumb and accept it.

and on a side note, although they find drugs without fail on these after hours raids, you'd think if they were really that dangerous places they'd report finding some guns as well.


Posted by gummybear on Dec-22-2009 00:13:

Why do people get so upset when shit like this happens...it comes with the territory..i've been in several after hours that were "raided" ....I was never searched but I'm sure some people were.

I've never considered it to be my God given right to party peacefully at an after hours where there is rampant drug use. Unfortunately, some of the more seedier people in society hang out at these places and where there is crime or the potential for it..there will be some sort of periodical law enforcement. Things will be back to normal at Film next weekend..


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