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Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-06-2010 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Fist Pump
You should probably just move to Europe if you're that unhappy. That's would I would do if I was you.


If it was that easy I would have been gone long time ago.


Posted by MSZ on Jan-06-2010 23:58:

yea some grown up people have some growing up to do.


Posted by MSZ on Jan-07-2010 00:03:

fuck im a hypocrite im childish as fuck, disregard my statement.


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-07-2010 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Who gives a shit what it is or isn't? People still argue about crap like this? You all sound like whiny noobs.


+ 1.


also, Richie Hawtin would beg to differ. Also, he would know since he was almost around when techno started in Detroit.

Just because techno has changed does not mean it's not techno.
Same with any genre. Unless it completely loses the basic elements of the genre.


Posted by MSZ on Jan-07-2010 00:11:

personally, i would be proud if a current genre carried traits of a existing genre. no reason to be elitist here, look on the bright side.


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-07-2010 00:44:

FUCK YEAH


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-07-2010 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by msz
personally, i would be proud if a current genre carried traits of a existing genre. no reason to be elitist here, look on the bright side.


Fair enough, as long as it's bumping and gets me moving.


Posted by MSZ on Jan-07-2010 01:09:

which it is/does ^^


Posted by VDub on Jan-07-2010 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
It truly is such an ignorant and elementary argument to get into though. I mean, really? "Proper" techno? There is no "proper" anything. Unless of course, the formula is all written down in The Big Rule Book of Music somewhere, then I stand corrected. Good music crosses boundaries and blurs genres anyways, so who really gives a shit? What difference does it make to you or anyone else?

Fuck this genre, fuck that genre. Sounds like noob talk to me.


This is the issue that I have...

You have one genre being labeled as techno right? Then someone comes along, and develops an entirely different sound, and calls IT techno...

Well, to the people who were into the first one, and dislike the second one, it's almost offensive. I'm not sure how to word exactly what I mean but I'm sure you get my point...


Posted by acronym on Jan-07-2010 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
This is the issue that I have...

You have one genre being labeled as techno right? Then someone comes along, and develops an entirely different sound, and calls IT techno...

Well, to the people who were into the first one, and dislike the second one, it's almost offensive. I'm not sure how to word exactly what I mean but I'm sure you get my point...


That's just music evolving. It happens to everything. Compare Rock in the 70s to Rock today, or Metal, Punk or Pop in the 80s to Metal, Punk or Pop today. They're all different. It's silly to argue about it.


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-07-2010 14:38:

Funny...a lot of modern Jazz musicians will still play standards from 50-60 years ago, recognising the brilliance of their predecessor's work, yet a large portion of today's "Techno" DJs won't go anywhere near cuts that were produced over the past 10-20 years, considering them to be old and outdated.

Anyway...






Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-07-2010 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Sure it would be great to have these guys out, but be realistic, few of them would pull in a big crowd. And there are few things more sad than a DJ playing bangin techno to a room of 30 chin scratchers against the back wall, sipping their one beer of the night.


I think it was Mario J who brough Murat in to play at Footwork about three years ago. Place was fairly rammed and his set was off the chain. Someone also booked in Rob Hood at FW the same year. Not quite as busy, but such a memorable night. Hood destroyed the place and I haven't danced that hard in ages.

But as you state, sadly, those are exceptions to the rule. Amazing how these guys can play for thousands overseas, but (with the exception of one-offs like Movement/DEMF) get next to no love on their home continent. Some things never change.


Posted by Kate Manus on Jan-07-2010 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Someone also booked in Rob Hood at FW the same year. Not quite as busy, but such a memorable night. Hood destroyed the place and I haven't danced that hard in ages.
I saw him shortly after this gig and when he realized I was from Canada he referred specifically to that night at FW and what a great time he had, it was one of his favourite gigs of the year believe it or not. Shame indeed that he likely won't be back in Canada any time soon... it has been much longer since he last played Montreal too, maybe Sona days?
another techno artist that would be nice to see back in Canada after all this time is the Advent.


Posted by Tunnel Rat on Jan-08-2010 01:01:

Bring on the fucking hard beats!!! Speedy J was the last set I saw that was laid down proper...

Clarke anywhere in T.O. and Steve Rachmad at Footwork are my "dream" sets.


Posted by devnull on Jan-08-2010 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Kate Manus

another techno artist that would be nice to see back in Canada after all this time is the Advent.


YES YES YES love the Advent & the industrializer


Posted by devnull on Jan-08-2010 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Tunnel Rat

Clarke anywhere in T.O. and Steve Rachmad at Footwork are my "dream" sets.


+1 on Rachmad

Clarke...not sure....all his whitenoise shows are garbage imho


Posted by NikReiz on Jan-08-2010 02:27:

mmmm...Octave One...


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-08-2010 02:31:

the classic, live...


Posted by Tunnel Rat on Jan-08-2010 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
+1 on Rachmad

Clarke...not sure....all his whitenoise shows are garbage imho


His sets aren't at all like white noise. The radio show serves to play new, diverse music from both up and coming or established artists - including Rachmad.

Checkout any of the past sets posted here. If you like harder, edgier techno, Clarke can deliver.


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-08-2010 04:27:

Dave Clark kicking out the oldschool jams, live. Six parter, total insanity.

Trust, if I ever come into a whack of cash or the backing needed to bring some of these guys (and gals - Michelle Herrmann would be a top pick) in, mnml's monopoly on Toronto will be over.


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-08-2010 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Kate Manus
I saw him shortly after this gig and when he realized I was from Canada he referred specifically to that night at FW and what a great time he had, it was one of his favourite gigs of the year believe it or not. Shame indeed that he likely won't be back in Canada any time soon... it has been much longer since he last played Montreal too, maybe Sona days?
another techno artist that would be nice to see back in Canada after all this time is the Advent.


That's great to hear! He's one of those producers whose DJing skills are mos def on par with his production - class act who puts the music first and foremost.

Can't recall which party it was, but I saw the Advent perform when Cisco and Colin were still working together - total shitshow, that was.


Posted by gummybear on Jan-08-2010 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Please dude...

That tech house bleep blip bloop crap IS NOT TECHNO!!!!


amen brotha!


Posted by Skipper on Jan-08-2010 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
I think it was Mario J who brough Murat in to play at Footwork about three years ago. Place was fairly rammed and his set was off the chain. Someone also booked in Rob Hood at FW the same year. Not quite as busy, but such a memorable night. Hood destroyed the place and I haven't danced that hard in ages.

But as you state, sadly, those are exceptions to the rule. Amazing how these guys can play for thousands overseas, but (with the exception of one-offs like Movement/DEMF) get next to no love on their home continent. Some things never change.


Just accept you are in the minority here. Either change in your life something and move over there, throw a party here, or quit whining. It's like over and over from the same people in the techno community...this purist nonsense is tiresome and old IMO.

on the whole, Toronto is a really dynamic city for electronic music, whether you agree or not. Major international DJs recognize what a great scene and crowd we have here. I for one don't spend my life wishing I were elsewhere.


Posted by AnitA on Jan-08-2010 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
YES YES YES love the Advent & the industrializer


That's what I'm talkin' about!!! Love them, they're on fire!
I'll get my fix at Awakenings 10 year anniversary! UUUUFFFFF


Posted by Capo di tutti on Jan-08-2010 17:57:

quote:
Originally posted by AnitA
That's what I'm talkin' about!!! Love them, they're on fire!
I'll get my fix at Awakenings 10 year anniversary! UUUUFFFFF


Who let this aniimallleeeeee in???? *muzzaaaaaa chop*


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