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Posted by BTG on Jul-13-2002 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by waXology
meh


indeed.


Posted by waXology on Jul-13-2002 01:18:

hehehe! just had my coffee!

breathe in!!!! breathe out!!


Posted by estes on Jul-13-2002 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by waXology
hey Airbase,

is it true that this track isnt finished yet and was actually stolen from you? by IDC ?


keep up the good work

and for those bitchin about airbase lay off you inconsiderate wanks!
at least he is providing music for the scene, music for us to listen to if you dont liek the music then listen to something else, Airbase doesnt force you ti listen to it!

If you do like his so called "attitude" the WOW, big deal! read another thread! like his attitude is really matters to these forums! pfffft! the music matters!

find something better to do!


meh

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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-13-2002 01:41:

Excellence. Pure exellence.

Ain't nothing gonna be better than the original (coz it's probably my fave trance tune ever) but it's goddamn amazing nevertheless


Posted by waXology on Jul-13-2002 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by estes

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haha


Posted by tranceDJ on Jul-13-2002 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG


the whole thing about your song being posted on this website. and the whole "who runs this site, does he know i post here" wtf is that man? i like your music, but shit man, lighten up, you're not god.


Actually, I think you need to lighten up. It's his song and no offense to Swamper, but he had no right to be putting up his song. Airbase was only angry because his hardwork was being put up for download for free. Sure, he over-reacted a bit but a lot of other musicians would too.

quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Wave
In my opinion this totally sucks. It's ugly and sounds extremely messy and amatuerish.


Dude...this is far from amateurish. And maybe you could back up your comments a bit. Simply saying 'it totally sucks' is very childish and stupid IMO.


Posted by BTG on Jul-13-2002 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ


Actually, I think you need to lighten up. It's his song and no offense to Swamper, but he had no right to be putting up his song. Airbase was only angry because his hardwork was being put up for download for free. Sure, he over-reacted a bit but a lot of other musicians would too.


yeah..but when you're not a superstar artist, i think I would be happy, to have my music on a very popular website to download. but thats just my opinion. And he could have just pmed swamper, and politly asked him to remove it.


Posted by Aya Brea on Jul-13-2002 04:27:

Ehhh, the synths he used ruined it :\. I downloaded the World In My Eyes remake, it's pretty good, but where the hell did the vocals go? It doesn't really have any similarity to the original.


Posted by waXology on Jul-13-2002 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG


yeah..but when you're not a superstar artist, i think I would be happy, to have my music on a very popular website to download. but thats just my opinion. And he could have just pmed swamper, and politly asked him to remove it.



IMO thats ridiculous!

i believe that having the track on the website when it isnt complete would annoy the artist even if they are beggining or very famous, it could give the listeners the wrong impression. for instance all these people sayign the remake is boring yada yada! well maybe when the track is complete it may be totally different!

i dunno just my opinion

(im not deffending airbase , i dont even know him. i just like to respect artists as a whole for what they do no matter if the work is good or bad i thank them all for the effort)


Posted by 8Wonders on Jul-13-2002 06:28:

Technically, it's a very well produced track, everything's in order, sounds powerful and uplifting, but the instrument Airbase chose for the melody could use some improvement. I agree with some of the comments that were previously said.

The song just isn't the same without that guitar melody, the strings sound a bit cheesy in comparison. The vocals don't seem appropriate in the remake as well, where as the original is more chilled down.

As far as DJ Stigma - The Answer (The Scarab Mix) is concerned, another well produced track but it just lacks something. The vocals imo do not flow well with the instrumental. I would very much like to see a dub of this.

The bottom line?

Great work Airbase.


Posted by randummboy on Jul-13-2002 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
Airbase was only angry because his hardwork was being put up for download for free.

..the man has a freaking mp3.com account for crying out loud!


Posted by LordCrimson on Jul-13-2002 07:54:

It was good to hear someone else's interpretation of the tune. I'm not saying it was better, hell, for that matter, i don't think it could be improved. But, the remix is a lot better than i could do for any tune.

My opinion only

LC

P.S. To Airbase: keep up the good work.


Posted by Airbase on Jul-13-2002 09:03:

OKay guys, let me clear things up!
The attitude-thingy, does Swamper know I post here-thingy!
I was angry because I joined this forum, started to answer questions that some people had concerning me, and I know Swamper knew I was here, and therefore I though it was kind of mean to put some of my work up for downloading! Okay, if he 1. had asked. 2. put up some of my own productions, then maybe I wouldnt be so angry about it. The thing is that The Answer is not my track, its DJ Stigmas, I just remixed it. My remix belongs to his release. I just got the whole thing as a thing that Swamper did only to piss me off, but as he removed it, Im okay with it! I just had lots of temper at that moment!

About the Solar Stone-remix, it is correct that the remix that got out isnt finished. I have the finished version now, but wont let anyone hear it, as it might get spreaded too! That the remix has been released by some lousy MP3-group (IDC i think it was) just proves the ingnorance of people dealing with mp3 release groups, they release about anything from anywhere, to be able to call it a "cool release".
THe remix aint finished, and someone that was supposed to hear the version the way it was, just to give me comments, gave the unfinished remix to someone else, and on that way, it goes on!

Hope I made all my points clear! Its not nice to read bad words about me if they are not righteous, so I had to reply to this! People that gags on my music, that I can take, but personal attacks just makes me unhappy... Im a nice guy, I think =o)

Over and out!

// Jeep


Posted by Arbiter on Jul-13-2002 10:19:

I wasn't thrilled by the sample on mp3.com

The synths came in and out of the song too sharply, and the result is a song that seems to be conflicted between being energetic or chilled.

Lastly.. this whole attitude issue is really, really stupid. I can only hope that those people who have continued to harangue Airbase for his honest misappraisal of the situation will realize how petty and childish their words appear.


Posted by Ocean Wave on Jul-13-2002 12:39:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
Dude...this is far from amateurish. And maybe you could back up your comments a bit. Simply saying 'it totally sucks' is very childish and stupid IMO.


Opinions are opinions, they cannot be right or wrong, coming in and disagreeing with an opinion is rather pointless and lame if you ask me since everyone has different feelings towards things. And I said "In my opinion it totally sucks" so I didn't just say it sucks.

People have different idea's of what sounds Amatuer or not and IMO this does sound amatuer, to come in and stab me in the back for my opinion was a bit over the top.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-13-2002 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Wave


Opinions are opinions, they cannot be right or wrong, coming in and disagreeing with an opinion is rather pointless and lame if you ask me since everyone has different feelings towards things. And I said "In my opinion it totally sucks" so I didn't just say it sucks.

People have different idea's of what sounds Amatuer or not and IMO this does sound amatuer, to come in and stab me in the back for my opinion was a bit over the top.


I got the impression he wasn't saying that your opinions suck, he just wanted to know why you thought it was amateurish...

...meh, I'll go grab my coat...


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Jul-13-2002 15:44:

arites well to discuss more on the actual topic which belongs to the track and not the drama, I find the airbase remix much easier to use in a set. I like it and even agreed with a friend of mine that said this song could be rocked twice in a set. the original banging it out at the end and the remake somewhere in mid set. as for the track being undone..yes it does seem a bit undone. airbase good shit man..much love from new york city...or atleast from me. would love to hear the finished version.


Posted by davinox on Jul-13-2002 17:53:

suggestions:

I really like the synth during the "your so cool" part, you know, that kind of wailing "siren" synth.

But i think the main lead could be beefier and richer.

can't wait to hear the final result!

Ocean Wave i would really like to hear your music, because you talk like a professional sounding producer, and you must make good tracks.
Producing is some hard shit, if you haven't tried it i suggest you do, you'll have a new respect for those who do.
My friend is starting to produce and what helps is not. "This is garbage, this is shit." it's "This is what i like about the song and this isn't."

If someone said what you've been working on totally sucked and didn't give reasons why or how to improve, you would be a bit defensive.

k bye. back to the hub.

[edit: Don't worry about Ocean Wave...heheh...i know the little buggah. don't take offense.]


Posted by Ocean Wave on Jul-13-2002 18:39:

OK, this is to be my last post in here as I don't want to get into arguments.

I took it from the Recycle Bin and has another listen just now and here are my reasons for not liking it.

It's hard for me to explain but I'll try. The bassline isn't doing it for me and the synth doesn't fit the melody IMO. Also, I don't like the way it builds up after the "You're So Cool" sample. Perhaps it's partly because I love the original so much that I don't like this at all and the fact that it isn't even finished yet.

Nothing against Airbase as I do like much of what I've heard from him such as the productions "Sparrow", "Dreamer" and Airbase vs Inzite "Unity Of Earth" though just not this remix and no, I have no production skills what so ever LOL, and of course this is 50000 times better than anything that I will ever probably do.

My previous comments, no offence intended but as I said, it was my opinion.

Cheers
Ocean Wave


Posted by Mekka Digital on Jul-14-2002 00:43:

After listening to it a couple times....this last time LOUD....it sounds BANGIN good. I can see this bein played by any major dj in their set at a trance energy dance dept or sensation event. Well Done Mr Airbase.


Posted by Orbital on Jul-14-2002 03:28:

Just a question to Airbase. Do you have to ask for permission to remix? I mean do you sorta ring up and go "Hi.. Solar Stone, can i remix one of your tracks?" BTW have the Solar Stone ppl heard it and what do they think?

=-=
OrB
-=-


Posted by DamnDirtyApe on Jul-14-2002 05:30:

Actually, I really like the main melody synth - it's kinda cool. However, I really don't like the how the notes slide into each other sometimes. It makes it sound goofy, as if someone is fiddling around with the pitch wheel.


Posted by HardKiller on Jul-14-2002 05:37:

Pretty cool remix! Not as good as the original though


Posted by fcuk � on Jul-14-2002 05:42:

it sounds good to me i like it


Posted by fastmp3 on Jul-14-2002 05:46:

doesn't beat the original , his remix needs some improvments (well the version i heard)


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