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what if you have more than one monitor ?

FLs is the quickest and easiest for me I love it.
I hated Sonys, I despised Reasons, Ableton was terrible, and Cubase I only used for 2 days so can't say.

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Originally posted by RichieV what if you have more than one monitor ?

With a well designed interface you shouldn't need more than one monitor.

But I do agree that better multi monitor support would be good. It'd be nice to have session view and arrangement view in seperate monitors, or to be able to break of the waveform view/piano roll and put it on another screen.

I have all my VSTs coming up on the 2nd monitor and just tab between mixer and arrangement, works well for me.

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Originally posted by kitphillips But I do agree that better multi monitor support would be good. It'd be nice to have session view and arrangement view in seperate monitors, or to be able to break of the waveform view/piano roll and put it on another screen.

To do that would be to make Ableton Live just like every other DAW. One of the main reasons that Live is specal is the fact that it runs efficiently on one monitor making it the most useful for live use. I doubt that Ableton will ever give the option to use Live on more than one monitor.

The best midi editing, bar none is offered in Sonar. The end. Nothing else comes close. From ease of editing to being able to control various sysex parameters directly without diving in menus, it's probably the best you can get.

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Originally posted by floyd741 To do that would be to make Ableton Live just like every other DAW. One of the main reasons that Live is specal is the fact that it runs efficiently on one monitor making it the most useful for live use. I doubt that Ableton will ever give the option to use Live on more than one monitor.

I have never even thought about running live on two monitors... what's the point? Everything! is right there!

With Live, I also use it with 2 monitors, Live on the left, Vst's on the right, and tab to flip from session to arrange. This workd great, however, I would be in favor of at least the ability to have session on one screen and arrange on the other. Once I have a large pool of midi clips it would be nice to always have them in my view even when arranging, no more tabbing, just drag and drop. My workflow would be improved alot, just by not having to remember what other midi clips are in session view.

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Originally posted by aNYthing The best midi editing, bar none is offered in Sonar. The end. Nothing else comes close. From ease of editing to being able to control various sysex parameters directly without diving in menus, it's probably the best you can get.

I found Sonar to be the least midi friendly and more audio oriented. I find logic and cubase to have a much better midi interface.

Logic is better!

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Originally posted by RichieV I found Sonar to be the least midi friendly and more audio oriented. I find logic and cubase to have a much better midi interface.

It's definitely a subjective matter, but Sonar does have very good MIDI editing and I definitely prefer it over any other DAW I've used. It actually originated as a MIDI-only app way back in the early Cakewalk days and didn't add audio until much later. A few versions ago (v7) they added some very useful and highly configurable MIDI editing tools, which really made it stand out from the crowd, but ironically that also made it less user-friendly/more bloated in many peoples' opinions. So, that's not to say that it makes Sonar better per se, nor is it perfect by any means. I actually do prefer the way that other DAWs handle some MIDI-editing tasks, but I prefer Sonar's approach overall.

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Originally posted by Alekos Logic is better!

Good argument.

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Originally posted by floyd741 Maybe it's just me but I find Live's piano roll to be very easy to use. I don't understand why everyone hates it so much, especially people who say they could'nt find the piano roll. You click on a midi clip and it shows up, it's very simple actually.

having spent over 15 hours in Live Midi editor yesterday alone, I have to strongly disagree. Actually, I can't think of a tool more ill-equipped for the task at hand than Live. I love proggy to death but midi facility in live sucks soo much ass, It should be classified as a deep colon cleansing apparatus.

Who needs quantization for anything over 1/32? you can't even paint a drum roll in the damn thing without resorting to some trickery. Shifting midi around is also an excercise in futility if you're not precise with the mouse. Over all, it's like trying to chop someone in ms paint instead of Photoshop - it is crude and takes a lot of trickery AND TIME to get things done. Looks like I'll need to drop my cubase back on my system. I can't work with live midi without losing my sanity.

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