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Posted by susan28 on Mar-23-2010 05:18:

The good news is that the Pio DJM2000 which will probably become the new club standard will have dual USB connex so handoffs will be easier, though it's not native Serato so you'll still need an SL3 for it.

i do know Serato's working with Pio for native HID support for the CDJ2000's so you won't need timecode (NICE!) so hopefully there'll be some kind of standard Serato mapping for the DJM2000's transport controls as well so you won't be relegated to keyboard-tapping in the clubs.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-23-2010 14:54:

Or you can just pay $400 for something like the new Xone patchbay, and hook it up to any mixer you like:

Xone Patchbay


Posted by susan28 on Mar-23-2010 15:48:

@Ryan, yeah those patchbays are the sensible way to go even if you do have multiple hookups on your mixer since even an "easy plugin" on the back of a mixer would interfere with the person before you's set ending. As a DVS person i like the idea of extensive midi controls on the mixer and as a Serato person it doesn't get any better than Serato built-in, but i agree that dual USB's alone isn't a dealmaker or breaker. Nice tho, and at least it shows that a mixer company (in both cases) realises there's a problem here that needs some techie love..


Posted by PivotTechno on Mar-23-2010 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Or you can just pay $400 for something like the new Xone patchbay, and hook it up to any mixer you like:

Xone Patchbay


lol @ "reassuringly expensive"


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Mar-23-2010 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
This mixer looks really great from a serato-user's perspective. I'd love it if I could expect every club/party to have one of these as it would make setting up a non-issue. It probably sounds pretty great too given it's a rane...


i don't care wut perspective, that mixer looks like shit


Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-23-2010 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
lol @ "reassuringly expensive"


Bah, $400 is expensive but you know it's built well. It splits the output of each deck nicely so you can have 2 DVS boxes or sound cards hooked up at once. Well worth not having to unpatch under the booth, behind the mixer live.


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-29-2010 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Seems with each passing moment, gear designers manage to make DJing more and more complicated, and yet somehow it doesn't end up sounding much different coming out of the speakers.

This.

$2600 for a shit-ton of bells and whistles.
Maybe I'm just getting old? (I'm 27)
Besides, after all those years of Rane focusing on build quality rather than FX and other expensive gizmos, why stop now?

Get back to the basics, Rane. It's what you're famous for.


Posted by n3lly on Oct-29-2010 19:16:

Seeing as this thread was brought back from.. well not quit the dead but it's sleep.

I'm struggling (embarrassingly I admit) to understand how the A&H PB works?

I see the mixer imputs and then the cd phono inputs.

I'm assuming this is for a 2 x 2 deck DVS systems? not 2 x 4 deck systems?

What's throwing me off is the Deck Outputs. I'd have thought that's where you'd plug your multiple systems into not out of..

Could someone please enlighten me


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-30-2010 08:41:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Seeing as this thread was brought back from.. well not quit the dead but it's sleep.

I'm struggling (embarrassingly I admit) to understand how the A&H PB works?

I see the mixer imputs and then the cd phono inputs.

I'm assuming this is for a 2 x 2 deck DVS systems? not 2 x 4 deck systems?

What's throwing me off is the Deck Outputs. I'd have thought that's where you'd plug your multiple systems into not out of..

Could someone please enlighten me

I know they seem backwards but I think it's saying the "Deck Outputs are what you should input here" You know...the output wires coming from the deck, hence (deck output).

I admit it seems backwards until you really stop and think about it.


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-30-2010 08:46:

quote:
Originally posted by susan28
@Ryan, yeah those patchbays are the sensible way to go even if you do have multiple hookups on your mixer since even an "easy plugin" on the back of a mixer would interfere with the person before you's set ending. As a DVS person i like the idea of extensive midi controls on the mixer and as a Serato person it doesn't get any better than Serato built-in, but i agree that dual USB's alone isn't a dealmaker or breaker. Nice tho, and at least it shows that a mixer company (in both cases) realises there's a problem here that needs some techie love..

Too true.


Posted by n3lly on Oct-30-2010 10:14:

quote:
Originally posted by brucelee6783
I know they seem backwards but I think it's saying the "Deck Outputs are what you should input here" You know...the output wires coming from the deck, hence (deck output).

I admit it seems backwards until you really stop and think about it.


Thank you good sir


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-30-2010 18:10:

I'm starting to see the appeal of this mixer...so let me get this straight...Serato is "built-in" to this mixer? You would still need to buy time-coded vinyl, all the necessary cables and wires (unless Sixty-Eight ships with them), and a copy of the Serato software CD...am I right? I'm guessing Sixty-Eight ships with all of the above. There's no SL1 or SL3 soundcard to plug anything into, because it's actually built into the mixer?


Posted by Teezdalien on Oct-31-2010 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
i heard this beast is going to cost $2,600 USD


Well I was seriously considering this mixer as I'm also thinking about jumping on the bridge and need a new mixer for that regardless, but at that price, it's just fucking ridiculous and not likely that I could actually afford it anytime soon when I also have to fork out for Serato as well.
I suppose being a Rane mixer and at that price, the build quality will still be there even with all these new bells and whistles.


Posted by skip on Oct-31-2010 05:41:

Isn't Serato free though? Only requiring the right hardware to work fully (ie. SL-1, SL-3, this mixer or that other one TTM-57 or something). That's what I thought at least.


Posted by Teezdalien on Oct-31-2010 06:05:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
Isn't Serato free though? Only requiring the right hardware to work fully (ie. SL-1, SL-3, this mixer or that other one TTM-57 or something). That's what I thought at least.


lol. No mate. The full up to date Serato Scratch is nearly a grand here. The Bridge is free once you have both Live 8 and Serato Scratch.


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-31-2010 06:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Well I was seriously considering this mixer as I'm also thinking about jumping on the bridge and need a new mixer for that regardless, but at that price, it's just fucking ridiculous and not likely that I could actually afford it anytime soon when I also have to fork out for Serato as well.

The Serato hardware is built into the mixer. You don't need stand-alone Serato hardware. I checked Rane's website and this mixer does in fact ship with all the necessary cables and the Serato software CD.

You don't need to buy Serato if you're planning on buying this mixer. That's one of the reasons for the outrageous price tag.


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-31-2010 06:44:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
Isn't Serato free though? Only requiring the right hardware to work fully (ie. SL-1, SL-3, this mixer or that other one TTM-57 or something). That's what I thought at least.

Yeah, that's the new feature of the TTM-57. It's almost identical to the 56, except that it has the Serato soundcard built right in.


Posted by Teezdalien on Oct-31-2010 07:13:

quote:
Originally posted by brucelee6783
The Serato hardware is built into the mixer. You don't need stand-alone Serato hardware. I checked Rane's website and this mixer does in fact ship with all the necessary cables and the Serato software CD.

You don't need to buy Serato if you're planning on buying this mixer. That's one of the reasons for the outrageous price tag.


Oh ok, my bad. What about the timecode vinyl?


Posted by brucelee6783 on Oct-31-2010 09:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
Oh ok, my bad. What about the timecode vinyl?

"The Rane TTM 57SL and Sixty-Eight DJ mixers both include two pieces of control vinyl, two control CDs, Scratch LIVE software, and extensive color manuals."

That's from the Rane website.


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