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Originally posted by magikb yeah I never thought of that. I usually save that for when I'm sick I would imagine though like anything, enough of it won't do the trick anymore like the gravol for me.

no probs like that with melatonin. 10 bux for a bottle of 150 or so. 3 mg is all you need and its not medicinal so you don't have to worry bout tolerance or liver damage etc

5htp actually made me energetic..is this normal?

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Originally posted by jchung52 no probs like that with melatonin. 10 bux for a bottle of 150 or so. 3 mg is all you need and its not medicinal so you don't have to worry bout tolerance or liver damage etc

Honestly I had never even heard of this before the thread.
Where do you buy it?

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Originally posted by magikb Honestly I had never even heard of this before the thread. Where do you buy it?

any health stores. shoppers, costco..

me and the gf use it quite a bit. make sure your'e ready for bed, take one and you should be out/ feel really sleepy within 20-30 minutes. Puts you into a deep sleep so i wouldnt recommend it if you just want to take a quick nap.


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Melatonin - Overview
What is melatonin?
Melatonin is a hormone made by the pineal gland, a small gland in the brain. Melatonin helps control your sleep and wake cycles. Very small amounts of it are found in foods such as meats, grains, fruits, and vegetables. You can also buy it as a supplement.

What does natural melatonin do in the body?
Your body has its own internal clock that controls your natural cycle of sleeping and waking hours. In part, your body clock controls how much melatonin your body makes. Normally, melatonin levels begin to rise in the mid- to late evening, remain high for most of the night, and then drop in the early morning hours.

Light affects how much melatonin your body produces. During the shorter days of the winter months, your body may produce melatonin either earlier or later in the day than usual. This change can lead to symptoms of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), or winter depression.1

Natural melatonin levels slowly drop with age. Some older adults make very small amounts of it or none at all.

Why is melatonin used as a dietary supplement?
Melatonin supplements are sometimes used to treat jet lag or sleep problems (insomnia). Scientists are also looking at other good uses for melatonin, such as:

Treating seasonal affective disorder (SAD).
Helping to control sleep patterns for people who work night shifts.
Preventing or reducing problems with sleeping and confusion after surgery.
Reducing chronic cluster headaches.
It may be that melatonin, when taken as a supplement, can stop or slow the spread of cancer, make the immune system stronger, or slow down the aging process. But these areas need more research.

Melatonin is also being studied to see if it can be used to treat sleep problems in people who are blind.2 Since these people cannot see light, they may have sleep problems such as sleeping during the day and being awake at night.

Is taking a melatonin dietary supplement safe?
In most cases, melatonin supplements are safe in low doses for short-term and long-term use. But be sure to talk with your doctor about taking them.

Children and pregnant or nursing women should not take melatonin without talking to a doctor first.

Melatonin does have side effects. But they will go away when you stop taking the supplement. Side effects include:

Sleepiness.
Changes in blood vessels that may affect blood flow.
Lower body temperature.
Stomach problems.
Headache.
Morning grogginess.
Vivid dreams.
If melatonin makes you feel drowsy, do not drive or operate machinery when you are taking it.

During health exams, tell your doctor if you are taking melatonin. And tell your doctor if you are having trouble sleeping (insomnia), since it may be related to a medical problem.

In adults, melatonin is taken in doses from 0.2 to 20.0 mg, based on the reason for its use. The right dose varies widely from one person to another. Talk to your doctor to learn the right dosage and to find out if melatonin is right for you.

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highly recommend trying this stuff, esp for those of you who have inconsistent sleep patterns

BTW, Melatonin screws up with hormones in women, specifically with estrogen. I stopped taking it for that reason and wouldn't recommend it to younger women.

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Originally posted by The Ear Valerian root extract in a glass of water. It's about the only thing that works for me (even if it is at a rougly 70% success rate). I've been dealing with insomnia for most of my life & even seconal didn't do shit for me. So that's what I go with. It's available at almost every natural supplement store for about $10 for a bottle that'll last you for months. Oh, just one warning. Valerian root extract tastes fucking awful. But you'll be comfortably lights out in about 30 minutes after taking it. Edit: Also, I've never found valerian root to give me messed up dreams.

So I found in the drug store today something called Nytol which is Valerian root, so I am going to give this a shot first and see if it helps me out.

The melatonin worried me a bit with the posting of messing with women's hormones so we'll see how this one goes first.

I will say that it doesn't smell pretty though so I can't even imagine how it is going to taste... blah!

u need to exercise, shower, read..

or take oxycontins

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