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Also on the eBook readers- since when has carrying around a book ever been a problem?

They market the Kindle, the Nook, and now the iPad as the solution to carrying around all these books. Who reads more than one book at a time? Why do I need a device to hold 1,000 books especially after I read them and won't touch them again?

Not to mention when you do a price comparison, buying books the old-fashioned way wins every time.

You could buy 17 books at $15 each...more than a year of reading, for the same price as buying a Kindle with jack shit on it.

The eBook reader market will always be a niche market until they can figure out how to price the books and devices cheaper.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 i find it interesting that, despite all the talk of iphone going to verizon and other carriers (in the states at least) very soon, that apple decided to continue using at&t for iPad data plans.

chip is unlocked gsm

the only thing that would actually get hurt in market share with this is the amazon kindle thats about it. the prices with 3g and better HDD are kinda steep for a tablet. for $600 u can get a dual core laptop with all functions or adding $100 to the 32gb wiht wifi u can get a macbook.

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Originally posted by get nyce chip is unlocked gsm

true - i glossed over that part.

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Originally posted by osterzone So you're willing to spend $600+ just to carry around a digital book?

considering that a kindly is $259, and it only allows me to read books.

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Originally posted by osterzone Also on the eBook readers- since when has carrying around a book ever been a problem? They market the Kindle, the Nook, and now the iPad as the solution to carrying around all these books. Who reads more than one book at a time? Why do I need a device to hold 1,000 books especially after I read them and won't touch them again? Not to mention when you do a price comparison, buying books the old-fashioned way wins every time. You could buy 17 books at $15 each...more than a year of reading, for the same price as buying a Kindle with jack shit on it. The eBook reader market will always be a niche market until they can figure out how to price the books and devices cheaper.

I'm a Snr Analyst for a F500 Publishing Company, the eBook world is niche but it's in high demand. I have pricing models and market share analysis that say the digital ebook world is here to stay.

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Originally posted by leph555 considering that a kindly is $259, and it only allows me to read books.

the kindle DOES allow for limited web browsing (mobile websites essentially). but not wirelessly.

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Originally posted by get nyce I'm a Snr Analyst for a F500 Publishing Company, the eBook world is niche but it's in high demand. I have pricing models and market share analysis that say the digital ebook world is here to stay.

For the future yes, but right now with the current market in it's infancy, and with all the setbacks, it's illogical to own an eBook reader.

I'd drop that ****** in about 5mins. I mean physically, it has nothing to hold onto.

Maybe rename it the iDrop, brings tears to your eyes.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 the kindle DOES allow for limited web browsing (mobile websites essentially). but not wirelessly.

yea but it is still in BETA, and it is very limited in use

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Originally posted by leph555 yea but it is still in BETA, and it is very limited in use

yep - got it for christmas and have been reading off it every day on my commute. i like.

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Originally posted by Dervish I'd drop that ****** in about 5mins. I mean physically, it has nothing to hold onto. Maybe rename it the iDrop, brings tears to your eyes.

are you one of those people that has a mobile phone hanging on their neck because they are too afraid to drop it or lose it?

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Originally posted by leph555 are you one of those people that has a mobile phone hanging on their neck because they are too afraid to drop it or lose it?

it takes you two hands to hold your phone?

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Originally posted by osterzone For the future yes, but right now with the current market in it's infancy, and with all the setbacks, it's illogical to own an eBook reader.

definitely wrong on that one. i'm not saying this because I feel like its a criticism in my career field nor do I feel like the print world is coming to an end. I certainly am not promoting high-priced technological gadget, but the increase in kindle's on the trains in NY have been almost 2-3 per day on my daily commute.

I bought my mother a kindle about 2 years ago, the very first edition that came out and she still uses it. It's green, it's space saving, it's easier for her to carry, it's easier for her to read from, it makes total sense to a lot of today's limitations of print.

The only good thing that has come out of this today is AT&T will have a $15/250mb a month data plan available.

Maybe that will get other carriers to drop their ripoff smartphone data prices. Verizon offers only 25mb for $10 a month. This new plan from AT&T makes Verizon's offerings look like shit.

So maybe then the subscription rates for smartphones will drop across the board. And then more people can buy them.

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Originally posted by Dervish it takes you two hands to hold your phone?

yea, when i type on it, watch a movie or do serious porn browsing.

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Originally posted by osterzone The only good thing that has come out of this today is AT&T will have a $15/250mb a month data plan available. Maybe that will get other carriers to drop their ripoff smartphone data prices. Verizon offers only 25mb for $10 a month. This new plan from AT&T makes Verizon's offerings look like shit. So maybe then the subscription rates for smartphones will drop across the board. And then more people can buy them.

but what will one do with only 250mb a month :O

edit: i see your point :P

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Originally posted by osterzone The only good thing that has come out of this today is AT&T will have a $15/250mb a month data plan available. Maybe that will get other carriers to drop their ripoff smartphone data prices. Verizon offers only 25mb for $10 a month. This new plan from AT&T makes Verizon's offerings look like shit. So maybe then the subscription rates for smartphones will drop across the board. And then more people can buy them.

sprint blackberry tour unlocked everything plan - $68 after taxes with insurance included.

I tether to a netbook often

Couldn't be arsed to read all that as every 15 seconds the page would jump to the top again, quite annoying.

whats the market for that thing?

if i have a 13in laptop with an extended batter and a BB9700, why would i buy that?

ANOTHER device for music, videos, photos and email?

oh it has a book store!
If i am at home and wanted to read off a lighted display and kill my eyes i would just use my laptop
If i am on the go, lets say a 1.5 hours commute i can read on the ipod touch OR the laptop.

so?

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Originally posted by leph555 yea, when i type on it, watch a movie or do serious porn browsing.

I wonder why they are sitting down, or have it on a table most of the time....

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Originally posted by leph555 yea, when i type on it, watch a movie or do serious porn browsing.

So how do you hold your penis?

The fuckin thing can't even multitask. It's more gimped than a netbook, at atrocious prices.

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Originally posted by osterzone The fuckin thing can't even multitask. It's more gimped than a netbook, at atrocious prices.

this is a very valid point argued by many but it doesn't fit the tech model that has made Apple famous. the MB and MBPro lines do a good job at this as a full scale laptop. Only there would I be needing to multitask though. Portable is defined as on the go, revolutionized by Apple with their iProducts right? That in itself is probably the main reason why they've dumbed down their UI and logic, with the intent that you're taking your ipod on the go.

I think larger talking points are the no webcam on the front for video conferencing but we all know that 3G/4G or any carrier won't go for simply because they do not have the bandwidth to support it. Who does video conferencing good? Cisco, but they aren't OTA.

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Originally posted by get nyce this is a very valid point argued by many but it doesn't fit the tech model that has made Apple famous. the MB and MBPro lines do a good job at this as a full scale laptop. Only there would I be needing to multitask though. Portable is defined as on the go, revolutionized by Apple with their iProducts right? That in itself is probably the main reason why they've dumbed down their UI and logic, with the intent that you're taking your ipod on the go. I think larger talking points are the no webcam on the front for video conferencing but we all know that 3G/4G or any carrier won't go for simply because they do not have the bandwidth to support it. Who does video conferencing good? Cisco, but they aren't OTA.

But outside of reading, what is this thing good for "on the go"?

You can't use it as a music player. Is anyone going to carry around the thing as a massive iPod Touch with their headphones plugged in? No.

You can't use it to do any sort of work since it can't multitask. So the optional keyboard thing (which will probably cost a ripoff price since it's Apple) is pointless.

It can't be used as a camera.

Maybe videos then? Either way I still can't thing of a single reason why this product would be useful at all.

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