Stop the USA from invading your computer privacy

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Posted by Eugene on Jul-13-2002 15:17:

This is ridiculous and outrageous!
I thought the US was a free country, with the freedom to have privacy, and to be free from Big Brother!
GUESS NOT!

By the way: We still have Linux and FreeBSD, which -- I'm sure -- will refuse to incorporate this shit, so there

Posted by Nook on Jul-13-2002 16:50:

i really don't like the usa. i just really hate it, the usa is pretty arrogant, it has a stupid president, stupid laws, glad i am in europe, here in holland. bah

Posted by ali92 on Jul-13-2002 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Nook
i really don't like the usa. i just really hate it, the usa is pretty arrogant, it has a stupid president, stupid laws, glad i am in europe, here in holland. bah

That's EXACTLY what my uncle says: Americans are arrogant. Heck, they don't even use Metric, which EVERY other country in the WORLD uses! Isn't that DUMB?! I live in USA but, I use Metric and use YYYY-MM-DD for my dates (I say them DD-MM-YYYY, though) and 24 hour for expressing time...

Posted by C-naptik on Jul-13-2002 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Nook
i really don't like the usa. i just really hate it, the usa is pretty arrogant, it has a stupid president, stupid laws, glad i am in europe, here in holland. bah

Useless post, you are the ignorant one i guess, because you're stating strong things without any argumentation, that's pointless
There's nothing worse than claiming things without arguments

Posted by Eugene on Jul-14-2002 02:10:

Posted by Nook on Jul-14-2002 09:22:

quote:
Originally posted by C-naptik

Useless post, you are the ignorant one i guess, because you're stating strong things without any argumentation, that's pointless
There's nothing worse than claiming things without arguments

i don't need to underline my opinion, cause that's what it is, my opinion, i am not trying to argue with you. i just had a short brief moment of letting you know what i think, without going into a argument with someone.

Posted by C-naptik on Jul-14-2002 10:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene

But he does have a point.

Alright, but what I meant is that we keep hearing/reading this very opinion all day, from all over the world, and it's just upsetting because you come to wonder why people keep saying that, I don't think most people know exactly why they are saying that...most of the time it's just very easy to follow the genral trend, see what I mean ? "Oh my relatives have this point of view about this and that, I'm going to say the same thing as them, so that people will see I do have an opinion about things, that'll be great to boost my personality"

This is really stupid...most of them never take time to ponder before saying stuff and have a definite judgement faster that they should.

Well, i'm not saying that directly against you Nook, I hope you're not part of these people, that's all, and I know you do have the right to state your opinion, I had to react because that sounded like those people who never think about what's going on around them and just keep telling bullshit all day long.

Maybe I just shouldn't have answered your post anyway..

Posted by DJU on Jul-14-2002 12:12:

This would never pass. Its a direct violation to the us consitution. Plus impossible to enforce. They have enough trouble stopping traffic violaters. Plus how would the gov know if it was installed or not? Theres way to many computers to detect that, and as somone said before everyone person I know alos has illegal software and mp3s... It will never happen, dont worry about it...

Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-14-2002 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Nook
i really don't like the usa. i just really hate it, the usa is pretty arrogant, it has a stupid president, stupid laws, glad i am in europe, here in holland. bah

You stating that u hate America for its stupid laws, president and arrogant people only shows how arrogant u are.....inorder for u to say we are stupid , you must think you or your country is in some way better then all of us...and that my friend is very arrogant.,...

If you need further definitions on other words or common phrases please dont hestitate to ask.....jus understand what word you use and make sure your not acting the same manor before u express yourself...otherwise that is what someone would call ignorance.

Posted by Nook on Jul-14-2002 16:54:

well that's a bit untrue. how can you make that judgement about me when i haven't even made my thoughts clear about my own country. maybe i have the same problems with my own country. and as for the 'hate', it was a bad choice of words. and as for the stupid president. i really think he is stupid. this is not some attack, just a man expressing his opinion about him, i do not feel better than someone, i think we're all alike. i am far from arrogant. actually, i am a pretty nice guy. (and i am not saying this in a arrogant kind of way)

Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-14-2002 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Nook
well that's a bit untrue. how can you make that judgement about me when i haven't even made my thoughts clear about my own country. maybe i have the same problems with my own country. and as for the 'hate', it was a bad choice of words. and as for the stupid president. i really think he is stupid. this is not some attack, just a man expressing his opinion about him, i do not feel better than someone, i think we're all alike. i am far from arrogant. actually, i am a pretty nice guy. (and i am not saying this in a arrogant kind of way)

I am sure your a nice guy...i never questioned that..however you came into this thread ranting that America is arrogant and this and that....when that simpley is not true....

YES of course there are arrogant Americans...but there are also arrogant people in every nation in this world...you hate America...well thats your opinion...your entitled to that...but i suggest in the future to give reasons as to why...instead of jus saying it with no basis....gives your argument more credibility...dont you think?

Posted by C-naptik on Jul-14-2002 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14

YES of course there are arrogant Americans...but there are also arrogant people in every nation in this world...you hate

I especially agree with you on that point, Tiesto14, that's what i'm trying to make people understand almost everyday, those who have very strong statements and generalize about a country too quickly.

I'm from France, and I can relate, since most people here are against the USA a lot and keep telling that all Americans suck, that they should die, that it's great the economy there is sick, and that the events of 9/11 taught them a good lesson...Each time i hear that, i get so pissed off and that also makes me sad that people can think that way...

Of course, not everybody is against the USA in France

So i strongly agree with you, arrogants people are everywhere, in every country, and that's just horrible to consider every single inhabitant of a country to having the same thoughts as what's generally seen and felt from the point of view of another country
(i.e. Bush is stupid, Americans want to control the world, all Americans are fat and go to a fastfood place everyday, etc...)

Posted by Pjotr G on Jul-14-2002 22:27:

sorry haven't read everything in here. But came up with a blatently simple solution. Put all you illegal stuff in a pc that's not wired to the internet. that's it.

Posted by ali92 on Jul-14-2002 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
sorry haven't read everything in here. But came up with a blatently simple solution. Put all you illegal stuff in a pc that's not wired to the internet. that's it.

Or CDs, DVDs, ZIP Disks, DLT/DDS/DAT tapes, external HDD...

Posted by extulas on Jul-15-2002 06:11:

Is their a chance we can start a forum about "Politics"? ... Cause every discussion usually ends up with bickering about politics, Or what about a "Debate" forum? ..... Anyone with me?

Posted by C-naptik on Jul-15-2002 10:54:

I'm with you, Extulas

Posted by ali92 on Jul-15-2002 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by extulas
Is their a chance we can start a forum about "Politics"? ... Cause every discussion usually ends up with bickering about politics, Or what about a "Debate" forum? ..... Anyone with me?

Sounds like an EXCELLENT idea! There's EVERYTHING ELSE here so, one more topic discussion isn't going to hurt! If anything, it'll make TA grow!

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