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Originally posted by Seppuku . Its pretty worthless for DJ sets now anyways.

Penny for your thoughts?

if you don't pay, you get 2 hours and after 100 downloads it is over.

can't answer for him, but i am pretty sure that will be it.

http://soundcloud.com/adam-solomon

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Originally posted by Schadenfreude if you don't pay, you get 2 hours and after 100 downloads it is over. can't answer for him, but i am pretty sure that will be it.

right. I miss the days of a limited number or uploads per month rather than limited track length.

but if you're using it to post tracks rather than sets, I could see the usefulness.

Yes, you can of course get hosting cheaper - I've got hosting as well as a SoundCloud pro account and tend to stick my mixes on both. I love SoundCloud for the features though, like secret links - do a mix or a track and just send it to a few people at first to get some initial feedback before making it available to all.

Of course you could do all of that from your own hosting and save yourself €30 a year, but it's so easy and convenient with SoundCloud.

http://soundcloud.com/sabre1489/

http://soundcloud.com/stalkeros/ just started uploading my sets there ;]

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Originally posted by n3on http://soundcloud.com/stalkeros/ just started uploading my sets there ;]

nicee i'll take a listen

http://soundcloud.com/djjoshuaharrell

Just posted a new mix along with another one, one mix got bumped...i'm at my account limit!

Question about this Soundcloud site. I have a lot of my sets recorded, typically I burn them onto cd's and hand them out to various industry people. But I'm looking for a place to maybe upload them as a listening option, and to cut back on the expenses of buying blank cd's and jewel cases.

I was reading all your posts about Soundcloud. It looks like a really cool site. My question is, are we allowed as DJ's, to post DJ sets on their server? What I mean is, its not my own original music, just a continuous mix of your typical club music, which I'm not the artist or the copyright holder of? Are DJ sets considered legal content? Just curious, cause this type of thing is new to me.

Thanks for the help.

Yeah you can upload mixes of other people's music but i don't know the legal aspects of it

You have to realize that the EDM industry is much different than your regular music industry. Artists and labels actually embrace the upload of their tracks as long as they are used in a mixed set. They see it as free promotion.

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Originally posted by woscar You have to realize that the EDM industry is much different than your regular music industry. Artists and labels actually embrace the upload of their tracks as long as they are used in a mixed set. They see it as free promotion.

Cool, thanks for info. I wasn't sure how these sites really work. I didn't wanna go and start posting my DJ sets, have some artist stumble upon my mix, and find his/her song is on there, and next thing you know, you have a record company and a team of lawyers after you.

One last question, once you music is uploaded, is there any sort of encryption, protection? What I mean is, can anyone just click and steal/download your files from the website?

You can choose to make your files downloadable. Personally I hate it when someone uploads a mix and doesn't make it downloadable.

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Originally posted by woscar You have to realize that the EDM industry is much different than your regular music industry. Artists and labels actually embrace the upload of their tracks as long as they are used in a mixed set. They see it as free promotion.

This is NOT always the case, by any stretch!

Labels rarely like it tbh, artists are slightly more likely to as they will have done the same to get to where they are.

The counter argument is that if people can download your mix to hear their track, they won't buy it as a single (ok, maybe they might not have done anyway), but they also are much less likely to buy a commercially released compilation with it on - which can be a major source of revenue for artists and labels in this scene.


So don't assume artists and labels don't mind... most will let it slide if you're being sensible and you are just using it for promo, but if you upload a mix and then send it to 1000s of people, you could have issues. You should certainly be aware that uploading a DJ mix is technically illegal in most countries (even recording it in the first place is actually illegal in the UK!)

What would happen to soundcloud if your set gets over many downloads and the label wants it off

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd What would happen to soundcloud if your set gets over many downloads and the label wants it off

Hopefully the label would just send you a strongly worded message and you'd then be sensible enough to take it down. But they could report you to SoundCloud, who might send you a message asking you to take it down, SoundCloud might take it down themselves or they might ban you - in that order of likelihood.

here's mine: http://soundcloud.com/touz

by the way, does anyone knows any other free sites where you can upload your mixes so that they are available for download to others ? I don't wanna pay those extra costs to soundcloud for an upgraded account.

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Originally posted by PezCore here's mine: http://soundcloud.com/touz by the way, does anyone knows any other free sites where you can upload your mixes so that they are available for download to others ? I don't wanna pay those extra costs to soundcloud for an upgraded account.

You can try mixcloud.com but i haven't been able to find the download bar yet.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox This is NOT always the case, by any stretch! Labels rarely like it tbh, artists are slightly more likely to as they will have done the same to get to where they are. The counter argument is that if people can download your mix to hear their track, they won't buy it as a single (ok, maybe they might not have done anyway), but they also are much less likely to buy a commercially released compilation with it on - which can be a major source of revenue for artists and labels in this scene. So don't assume artists and labels don't mind... most will let it slide if you're being sensible and you are just using it for promo, but if you upload a mix and then send it to 1000s of people, you could have issues. You should certainly be aware that uploading a DJ mix is technically illegal in most countries (even recording it in the first place is actually illegal in the UK!)

Stu,
With all that said, in my case, would it be wise to post my DJ sets or should I just continue burning cd's and hand them out? What do you think? Right now I don't hand out my recorded sets to just anyone. Only to those in the industry and it clearly states on the jewel case box of its intention. Plus all my cd's are watermarked.

To answer Adam's question. I wouldn't want to make my stuff downloadable just because of the things we're talking about. If it were my own original music (which BTW I am currently writing my own stuff)that's cool. But this is other peoples music just mixed together.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Stu, With all that said, in my case, would it be wise to post my DJ sets or should I just continue burning cd's and hand them out? What do you think? Right now I don't hand out my recorded sets to just anyone. Only to those in the industry and it clearly states on the jewel case box of its intention. Plus all my cd's are watermarked. To answer Adam's question. I wouldn't want to make my stuff downloadable just because of the things we're talking about. If it were my own original music (which BTW I am currently writing my own stuff)that's cool. But this is other peoples music just mixed together.

Look around. When you see EVERYONE in the industry doing something; it means it is accepted. It may not be technically legal but seriously anyone who is anything has a radio show, podcast, mix series these days; and 99.99999999999999999999999999999% of all of them are using mostly others peoples work.

Prior to the digital age I'd consider looking into it; but presently there is no merit to even looking into it.

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Originally posted by djkatmaus Stu, With all that said, in my case, would it be wise to post my DJ sets or should I just continue burning cd's and hand them out? What do you think? Right now I don't hand out my recorded sets to just anyone. Only to those in the industry and it clearly states on the jewel case box of its intention. Plus all my cd's are watermarked. To answer Adam's question. I wouldn't want to make my stuff downloadable just because of the things we're talking about. If it were my own original music (which BTW I am currently writing my own stuff)that's cool. But this is other peoples music just mixed together.

I'm not going to recommend that you break the law that has to be your own decision, down to your own morals. Although handing out CDs breaks the law as well in the same way, the reach is just greater on the net.



In the UK you can actually get a special Podcast licence, which would actually cover uploading mixes to SoundCloud etc. There are different variants, so if you wanted people to be able to download them rather than just stream them, you'd have to get the licence that allows downloading.

But you're in the States... I don't know how the rules work across borders. It's also possible that those licences only license you to distribute online to others in the UK anyway, although that would be unrealistic to control.

One of the requirements of the licence is that you submit tracklists for all of your 'episodes', which means that the artists and labels can get money for your mix. I'd actually strongly urge people getting a large number of downloads of their mixes/podcast to consider that.

My personal belief is that the future of the global music scene relies on artists and labels making sure they get royalties from systems like that, rather than trying to chase pirates. The same goes for sets in clubs - technically if you give the club a tracklist, they're supposed to submit it to an organisation who will give some of their public performance licence fee to the artists & labels of each track you play. If Lily Allen got a bit of money every time one of her songs got played in a student club somewhere, maybe she'd get of her high horse.

www.soundcloud.com/djesoj

Remixes and Mix Sets from various genres.

http://soundcloud.com/teezdalien

Btw I have some new sets I'll be upping shortly.

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