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Posted by Matt on Jul-13-2002 05:33:

Max Graham, Delerium and BT are the only North American electronica producers I appreciate, and two of them are Canadian


Posted by Pio on Jul-13-2002 06:02:

Big Ears hmmm

What about Andain-Summer Calling ? And any choon by Josh Gabriel, he's from San Francisco for all I know, even if his stuff sounds mad Dutch.

Christopher Lawrence is boring imo , i saw him at Exit NYC and fell asleep. Then Judge Jules came on and tore the shit apart.

I also love Deep Dish and Mark Farina? Yes, the coolest dub house ever.


Posted by eXeTik on Jul-13-2002 06:41:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
BUYING TRANCE IS LIKE BUYING A CAR
DON'T BUY AMERICAN !!!!!!


Awwww crap, you beat me to it... that's the first thing I had in mind as I first saw this thread!


Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-13-2002 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by icebreaker
looooooool
do americans really know anything about electronic music?..i think they pretend listening to that in order to be cool and being loved by some europeans....tzztzz usa usa



well i can agree that America does not have the best produsers and DJs...but your statement seemed to be directed at the American trance AUDIENCE and not the music makers...

so basically that makes u fucking loser...and are u tryng to be cool using American software on your computer...u fucking tool...

now go play hide and go fuck yourself for a little bit....u new jack


Posted by jdat on Jul-13-2002 07:05:

I think the problem is that most of you are all hooked to your pvd, avb, corsten, du monde, gielen, tiesto, etc etc .....

and that's all you listen to , and unfortunately , I don't see how most of the people on this site could help new djs grow cause most of you are all about the star djs
that's a little sad, and the people affected by my words are defenitely goin to be the "fans"


Posted by LordCrimson on Jul-13-2002 07:22:

I have an old Mixmag at work and it seems Pete Tong was talking about people getting ideas for music from America. Will have to check that out when i go back Mon.

LC


Posted by Verona^My on Jul-13-2002 11:53:

mmm, cant think of any American trance offhand... although I'm sure some exists. There's some American pop trance, I know that for sure. Nebulous records is based in Florida, for the Floridian dance scene, which is rooted in Miami Bass & Freestyle.

I know for sure there's american synthpop though.


Posted by Verona^My on Jul-13-2002 12:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene

I agree with you!
Quality Trance could never be produced here in America, because the people here are different, and the culture is different too!
Trance is European music, and it's about European culture...


I disagree. Some Americans might be able to produce quality trance. It just so happens in America, if you play a synth, you are dead last in line to be signed. Over here we dont sign people who play synths, we sign people who sing, and hire studio synth players to play for them. It's a cultural difference, and a sucky one at that.

I think there are definitely people in the US talented enough with synths to play trance, but they dont play trance, they write pop songs.


Posted by :CrasHeR-kiD: on Jul-13-2002 13:08:

Alot of you have mentioned BT - but hes just 1 Dj/Artist/Producer that has stood out from the list of pretty proggy Djs.

I mean, im going to anyway fall into the stereotype - but generally i think American Djs have alot of potential to play wikid trance stuf but trance just doesnt seem to be "breaking the market".

The United States is a tough shell to break, many of the listeners are "creatures of comfort" and listen to only what they know and like and refuse (generally speaking) to acknowledge other genres of music.

As well as that, look at the fkn American government!

They have been cracking down for monthes on raves/rave like activity and petty paraphenalia - this is where the root of the problem is!

Why would Djs get into a style of music that they rightfully know they're not going to be able to play/spinn at clubs or raves because their name & reputation would ultimately be brought down with this ludacrist "Anti-Rave" policy - its a fkn joke and its oppression - who the fuck are they to stop people from what they enjoying doing.

They should be fkn chasing event organizers but the root of the problem which where the influx of drugs comes through...by stopping people and Djs from enjoying what they do then the government is merely fueling a fire that very very soon is going to be uncontrollable - a revolt will spawn and from it many will learn that no one fucks with the massive - the one massive.


Posted by :CrasHeR-kiD: on Jul-13-2002 13:12:

Please dont get me wrong - i am in total support of the United States often in its entirity - i mean i was fkn brought up in Canada and the United States for 12 years before i moved to Australia.
But this anti-rave legislation or whatever distinguised name its recievd is fucked.


Posted by Pio on Jul-13-2002 14:58:

Smiley DJ

JOSH GABRIEL
is from SAN FRANCISCO, CA, USA!
Andain-summer calling? Any of the Gabriel and Dresden remixes. That's the best american trance producer, no doubt.


Posted by Stanza on Jul-13-2002 16:24:

Here's some Dj's/producers to look out for:

BT
Christopher Lawrence
D:Fuse
Sandra Collins
George Acosta
DJ Micro

But I must sat it's Christopher Lawrence who first comes tom ind when I think USA and tracne. Go check out his latest mix cd 'Around the World'. Very nice and pounding trance from start to finish.


Posted by IronDragon on Jul-13-2002 16:25:

I'm pretty sure Joshua Ryan (producer of "Pistolwhip") is American so that's one for the states.

In terms of American trance as a whole I don't care for the whole progressive scene here as championed by Christopher Lawrence, Sandra Collins, Jimmy Van M, etc. its not a matter of better or worse, simply taste.

Other than that the only real vestige of homebred trance is the hard/progressive type which George Acosta plays.


Posted by Pio on Jul-13-2002 19:02:

Sad AMERICAN TRANCE......

JOSH GABRIEL PEOPLE, FUCKING JOSH GABRIEL


One of the anthems of this summer, whether you are in Ibiza, New York or anywhere is ANDAIN-SUMMER CALLING, ANDAIN IS FROM SAN FRANCISCO, the producer JOSH GABRIEL is from SAN FRANCISCO. Tiesto mixed THREE of his remixes in ISOS 3....IS HE THE MOST IMPORTANT AMERICAN TRANCE PRODUCER RIGHT NOW OR WHAT?????


Posted by rookie on Jul-13-2002 22:05:

lol

they may not make good trance but thanx to that americam pc ur on u can listen to trance.................


Posted by whiskers on Jul-13-2002 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
BUYING TRANCE IS LIKE BUYING A CAR

DON'T BUY AMERICAN !!!!!!


shall we talk about american league soccer now?


Posted by Aya Brea on Jul-14-2002 00:59:

European trance definately over rules American trance. But then there are acceptions, like BT (he's amazing), George Acosta and Aquanuts. I can't stomach DJ Micro.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jul-14-2002 04:58:

quote:
Originally posted by eXeTik


Awwww crap, you beat me to it... that's the first thing I had in mind as I first saw this thread!


Also very pase...

Anyways...does it really matter where the music comes from?
This is just like my recent poll about vocals or dubs.
The conclusion so far is that people don't care if there's vocals or not as long as it's a good tune.
The fact that it's Make in America really doesn't mean anything to me.
If it's good, it's good.


Posted by Floorfiller on Jul-14-2002 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by icebreaker
looooooool
do americans really know anything about electronic music?..i think they pretend listening to that in order to be cool and being loved by some europeans....tzztzz usa usa


this has to be the funniest thing i've ever heard!! I hope i'm not considered a trader, but i gotta say that i don't listen to a lot of american shit cause i don't like it. those of you out there that do, please don't suggest christopher lawerence to people, i think he is the problem, giving us a bad name. so many have already said that america= progressive and that is pretty true. josh gabriel is the man in trance right now, and not just out of americans. i think that its funny some of the reactions people have given like they know about the american way of life. a whole lotta stereotypes flying around, but this one is my favorite. to be perfectly honest i don't give a fuck about europeans. OH ICEBREAKER......PLEEEAAASSSEEE LLLOOOOVVVEEEE MMMEEEE!!!!!! i can't live if you don't. as for now, in general american shit sucks, but someday it will become the standard as america always does. i mean saying all these things about america is like me thinking you euro's sit around and drink tea all day. you do that right?


Posted by jesten on Jul-14-2002 05:08:

The are few good american trance. Euro is the only way to go.


Posted by jesten on Jul-14-2002 05:10:

But as for house I find US house alot better then most the euro stuff.


Posted by Pio on Jul-14-2002 06:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller


this has to be the funniest thing i've ever heard!! I hope i'm not considered a trader, but i gotta say that i don't listen to a lot of american shit cause i don't like it. those of you out there that do, please don't suggest christopher lawerence to people, i think he is the problem, giving us a bad name. so many have already said that america= progressive and that is pretty true. josh gabriel is the man in trance right now, and not just out of americans. i think that its funny some of the reactions people have given like they know about the american way of life. a whole lotta stereotypes flying around, but this one is my favorite. to be perfectly honest i don't give a fuck about europeans. OH ICEBREAKER......PLEEEAAASSSEEE LLLOOOOVVVEEEE MMMEEEE!!!!!! i can't live if you don't. as for now, in general american shit sucks, but someday it will become the standard as america always does. i mean saying all these things about america is like me thinking you euro's sit around and drink tea all day. you do that right?




Thank you Floorfiller, you're the only other person in this forum to recognize the main American trancer right now, definitely not christopher lawrence (who spins boring prog), but JOSH GABRIEL , one of the hottest items right now, from SAN FRANCISCO PEOPLE, SAN FRANCISCO USA


Posted by BenTech on Jul-14-2002 07:56:

its funny when sittin in front of my pc I usually am listening to alot of euro stuff

but at a rave, all of the big euro djs I've seen have been disappointments, PVD was kinda boring, and oakenfold just plain sucked, while on the other hand ALL of my fav Djs to see live are from north america, I think anyone who has seen a Donalde Glaude show can vouche for how hard he throws it down, he is easily the best Dj to see live, chris lawrence prolly has spun the two best sets I've seen musically, and go to the DnB room while Diesel Boy or AK1200 is spinning, I'd trade a good live Dj for one that can produce a good studio track anyday


Posted by capricorn15 on Jul-14-2002 09:38:

quote:
Originally posted by icebreaker
looooooool
do americans really know anything about electronic music?..i think they pretend listening to that in order to be cool and being loved by some europeans....tzztzz usa usa


wtf kind of stupid ignorant comment was that
y dont you just stfu, i started listening to trance like 4 years ago, and it wasnt to be cool, it was because i liked the music, avid trance listeners around here dont just listen to trance around here to be cool, it is because they like it, areyou saying i bought turntables and records to be cool? no i bought it for my own pleasure of mixing what i like
fuckin moron


Posted by dj kinetica on Jul-14-2002 09:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller


this has to be the funniest thing i've ever heard!! I hope i'm not considered a trader, but i gotta say that i don't listen to a lot of american shit cause i don't like it. those of you out there that do, please don't suggest christopher lawerence to people, i think he is the problem, giving us a bad name. so many have already said that america= progressive and that is pretty true. josh gabriel is the man in trance right now, and not just out of americans. i think that its funny some of the reactions people have given like they know about the american way of life. a whole lotta stereotypes flying around, but this one is my favorite. to be perfectly honest i don't give a fuck about europeans. OH ICEBREAKER......PLEEEAAASSSEEE LLLOOOOVVVEEEE MMMEEEE!!!!!! i can't live if you don't. as for now, in general american shit sucks, but someday it will become the standard as america always does. i mean saying all these things about america is like me thinking you euro's sit around and drink tea all day. you do that right?


couldnt have put it better myself


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