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Do it.

stop being smart asses guys, seriously, this isn't the place

op obviously needs help and advice, and it's always better to ask random people you've been talking to than no one at all

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Originally posted by jupiterone stop being smart asses guys, seriously, this isn't the place op obviously needs help and advice, and it's always better to ask random people you've been talking to than no one at all

Its quiet obvious that the answer is to go to the doctor.....

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Originally posted by nchs09 Its quiet obvious that the answer is to go to the doctor.....

many people don't want to go to a 'doctor'. it's generally a no brainer, of course, but there are many other alternatives and some people here have actually supplied him with those alternatives. i've been through this shit and didn't see a doctor, i did exactly what rich said. it's good to have people who have experience give you advice. every piece of that advice is vital to people who are experiencing suicidal thoughts, seriously, you are 10000x more sensitive when you're going through this kind of shit, having a bunch of people mocking you and acting all high and mighty doesn't help, just don't reply if you have nothing positive/supportive to add

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Originally posted by R!CH when people were still hunting and gathering in the pre-industrial world, there was no such thing as depression, or suicide. that's because they spent all day in the sun working and sweating and eating real food. try to realign your lifestyle along those lines as much as possible. processed foods and sedentary lifestyle is a proven formula for poor mood.

so very, very true!

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Originally posted by nchs09 Its quiet obvious that the answer is to go to the doctor.....

that answer is what drives up the cost of health care. you want him to get an insurance company to pay for a doctor's visit, maybe some brain scans and a blood test that verifies an imbalance, and then a scipt for overpriced meds that may or may not be temporarily effective at treating the symptom of an underlying problem. we are habitual creatures and if you've been living with bad habits for a long, long time, your brain function and blood chemistry will reflect that. that doesn't mean you have a medical condition that requires drugs. what this person should do is make tough lifestyle changes and hold to them for several weeks before running to the doctor for a quick fix. modifying your habits over time will modify how your mind and body works. a good doctor will tell him the same thing, a doctor trying to make spifs will dole out of the pricey exams and meds. the hardest part about depression is, i imagine, finding the motivation to take back control of your own life.

listen, im only going to say this once.

go to the kitchen, put the kettle on, pop tea bag in cup, brew, enjoy.

*sips green tea with apples and pears*

ahh, now isnt that better?

what did i miss??

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear what did i miss??

a 13 year old ukrainian girl just walked by with bell bottom bottom jeans and a thong that sticks out, shame.

Woah something bad went down in here

gonna agree with previous posts suggesting exercise. if you've got an ipod, throw a set on there from a favorite dj and go for a run or bike ride. anything really. do this a couple times a week. works wonders.

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Originally posted by R!CH that answer is what drives up the cost of health care. you want him to get an insurance company to pay for a doctor's visit, maybe some brain scans and a blood test that verifies an imbalance, and then a scipt for overpriced meds that may or may not be temporarily effective at treating the symptom of an underlying problem. we are habitual creatures and if you've been living with bad habits for a long, long time, your brain function and blood chemistry will reflect that. that doesn't mean you have a medical condition that requires drugs. what this person should do is make tough lifestyle changes and hold to them for several weeks before running to the doctor for a quick fix. modifying your habits over time will modify how your mind and body works. a good doctor will tell him the same thing, a doctor trying to make spifs will dole out of the pricey exams and meds. the hardest part about depression is, i imagine, finding the motivation to take back control of your own life.

the answer is vagina

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ listen, im only going to say this once. go to the kitchen, put the kettle on, pop tea bag in cup, brew, enjoy. *sips green tea with apples and pears* ahh, now isnt that better?

LOL! I was actually just reading about Green Tea. I swear it's a miracle drug. The amount of positive and clinically significant studies about Green Tea in the past decade is astounding.
I'm drinking 1-2 cups a day on average, often as a coffee substitute and I have to say I feel a lot better and healthier.

R!CH said one of the most important things too, exercise. It's well documented how much regular exercise reduces stress on top of all the health benefits we're all aware of.

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Originally posted by Fledz LOL! I was actually just reading about Green Tea. I swear it's a miracle drug. The amount of positive and clinically significant studies about Green Tea in the past decade is astounding. I'm drinking 1-2 cups a day on average, often as a coffee substitute and I have to say I feel a lot better and healthier.

I heard you need to be drinking in excess of 8 cups a day for it to have notable effect in any area. Post links bruz.

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Originally posted by echosystm I heard you need to be drinking in excess of 8 cups a day for it to have notable effect in any area. Post links bruz.

2-3 for good results, ideally around 5 for maximum effect. Even 1 cup has shown positive effects though.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?...dspice&dbid=146
References are at ze bottom.

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Originally posted by R!CH when people were still hunting and gathering in the pre-industrial world, there was no such thing as depression, or suicide. that's because they spent all day in the sun working and sweating and eating real food. try to realign your lifestyle along those lines as much as possible. processed foods and sedentary lifestyle is a proven formula for poor mood.

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Originally posted by RapidFire so very, very true!

lol, since there were clinical diagnoses back in those days

and LOL at no suicide... wtf are you basing these claims on? you think people in pre-industrial times were so happy?
by real food do you mean ANYTHING they could get their hands on which would stop them starving to death?

you and Pol Pot would have gotten on great... do you also think that anyone who is educated is trying to ruin the country you are a part of?
you and pol pot did have valid points though: if you killed all the psychologists, and sent every citizen to enforced work camps, dissalowing all access to medicine etc, there would be no depression... do you know why? yaaaaaaa... it would be just like pre-industrial times

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Originally posted by echosystm I heard you need to be drinking in excess of 8 cups a day for it to have notable effect in any area. Post links bruz.

PROOF

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Originally posted by EgosXII PROOF

The fuck does Green Tea have to do with a placebo?
You can't be retarded enough to say that it's all a myth and all tea is, is just leaves in water.

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Originally posted by jupiterone a 13 year old ukrainian girl just walked by with bell bottom bottom jeans and a thong that sticks out, shame.

giggles giggles

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Originally posted by EgosXII lol, since there were clinical diagnoses back in those days and LOL at no suicide... wtf are you basing these claims on? you think people in pre-industrial times were so happy? by real food do you mean ANYTHING they could get their hands on which would stop them starving to death? you and Pol Pot would have gotten on great... do you also think that anyone who is educated is trying to ruin the country you are a part of? you and pol pot did have valid points though: if you killed all the psychologists, and sent every citizen to enforced work camps, dissalowing all access to medicine etc, there would be no depression... do you know why? yaaaaaaa... it would be just like pre-industrial times PROOF

what in the fucking hell are you babbling about???

Re: extreme depression

On topic

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 has anyone here ever been through extreme depression? if yes are you still suffering from it? how are you coping? if you got out, what did you do? what helped, what didn't?

I haven't. But I think I've experienced mild forms of it in the past, when jumping off a cliff felt like the biggest achievement I could ever have in life. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad, and I actually miss it. Now that I'm happier life does look way more exciting, but uglier. The world of the happy is quite different from the world of the unhappy, that's for sure.

If you think you're going through some sort of extreme depression, and you can't get out of bed and/or have suicidal thoughts every other minute, please go see a specialist. Right now! If you're asking yourself why bother, that's the depression speaking and it influences your life in ways you just can't imagine.

It's hard to give you advice with so little information. In my case pursuing my dream and cutting ties with toxic people worked: I'm happier than ever now that I'm living alone in working on a career I like, though I did remain miserable for a while even in this context.

But are you sure you're really depressed? Life is not supposed to be cheerful 24/7, you know?

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Originally posted by R!CH that answer is what drives up the cost of health care. you want him to get an insurance company to pay for a doctor's visit, maybe some brain scans and a blood test that verifies an imbalance, and then a scipt for overpriced meds that may or may not be temporarily effective at treating the symptom of an underlying problem. we are habitual creatures and if you've been living with bad habits for a long, long time, your brain function and blood chemistry will reflect that. that doesn't mean you have a medical condition that requires drugs. what this person should do is make tough lifestyle changes and hold to them for several weeks before running to the doctor for a quick fix. modifying your habits over time will modify how your mind and body works. a good doctor will tell him the same thing, a doctor trying to make spifs will dole out of the pricey exams and meds. the hardest part about depression is, i imagine, finding the motivation to take back control of your own life.

What? I was talkinga bout a psychiatrist.

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Originally posted by R!CH when people were still hunting and gathering in the pre-industrial world, there was no such thing as depression, or suicide. that's because they spent all day in the sun working and sweating and eating real food. try to realign your lifestyle along those lines as much as possible. processed foods and sedentary lifestyle is a proven formula for poor mood.

Right. It has nothing to do with the complex stressors of today's world at all. Food and exercise, yup. The ONLY two factors to consider when discussing how to treat depression. Lol.

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Originally posted by R!CH that answer is what drives up the cost of health care. you want him to get an insurance company to pay for a doctor's visit, maybe some brain scans and a blood test that verifies an imbalance, and then a scipt for overpriced meds that may or may not be temporarily effective at treating the symptom of an underlying problem. we are habitual creatures and if you've been living with bad habits for a long, long time, your brain function and blood chemistry will reflect that. that doesn't mean you have a medical condition that requires drugs. what this person should do is make tough lifestyle changes and hold to them for several weeks before running to the doctor for a quick fix. modifying your habits over time will modify how your mind and body works. a good doctor will tell him the same thing, a doctor trying to make spifs will dole out of the pricey exams and meds. the hardest part about depression is, i imagine, finding the motivation to take back control of your own life.

Furthermore, what you're talking about here equates to victim blaming...and while the average idiot still thinks this way about health and wellness (behavioural/lifestyle factors), people in the health care world have long moved beyond that type of thinking to recognize that there are a broad number of socioenvironmental factors that contribute to well-being. Or lack thereof.



Your type of thinking isn't entirely wrong, of course healthy habits/lifestyle are beneficial to good health; however, this is under the assumption that everybody has the same access to good food, exercise, etc. You need to understand that for some people, whether they want to choose a healthy lifestyle or not, there may be several barriers to them attaining it.


Yours is a simple answer to a much more complex problem than you clearly understand.

Re: extreme depression

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 has anyone here ever been through extreme depression? if yes are you still suffering from it? how are you coping? if you got out, what did you do? what helped, what didn't?

I was bummed for a while cause my life sucked, and thought that I was stuck inside a latice of energy that controlled me rather than me living freely, a reality that I had no control over my own life. This was back in my days of youth.

I confronted it by just doing whatever the hell I felt was the right thing to do, and seeing myself as someone rather than a nobody. Someone empowered to act for their beliefs rather than be tortured by non actions that attack my own sense of morality in non action.

Problem solved. So more feeling of helplessness.

I really established a strong sense of faith that rejected all the social indoctrinations that enforced depression and feelings of worthlessness and insignificance on me.

Such as science and submission to the police state.

This isn't a call for reckless disregard, just don't let the law stop you from doing what is right. Often times it is the system that is wrong hiding behind a shield of corruption. We have choice in belief and one of those beliefs is to believe in a better life rather than being stuck in oppression and intolerance, a world asking for more rather than creating fullfillment.


Of course I really only had 1 day of extreme depression when I had to come to terms with the totality of science stimulus response, and the identity of artificial cognitive intelligence. The only freedom is knowing that you shape the world and reality, not the other way around.

It was liberating and self empowering to come to the englightenment that only by acting as god could you change your own life, you can't leave it up to anything else to save you. You have to save yourself, and that means being one with god. And no I'm not talking about the concept of Jehova or Yaweh. Gods real name is the sense of I am. Everyone is responsible for themselves, we are niether limited in faith nor constrained by it.

Although there could be generalized environmental pressures that lead to depression I think a lot of it is created by the societal cults - that create artificial hoops for people to jump through to feel content with their lives. You need to ignore the hoops if you want to be truly free from the cult trying to control your feelings and behaviour.

Once again this isn't a call for reckless disregard, as some of those hoops may be useful, others may not. Grow yourself and your awareness and know what you are about rather than what others are trying to make you. You don't need to live up to anyones expectations, not even your own. Life is in right now, not tommorrow, but aiming for the tomorrow you'd like today isn't all that wrong, just don't be upset if tomorrow ain't today.

Re: Re: extreme depression

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Originally posted by ******** social indoctrinations that enforced depression and feeling of worthlessness and insignificance on me.

See? Will gets it.

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