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Posted by i got big pants on Mar-10-2010 21:56:

Meh....

For the cost of what it'll probably be, I'd rather take a lemur.


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-10-2010 22:33:

looks like shit


Posted by 4clubber on Mar-10-2010 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by djkatmaus
One thing to improve on the small screen is add some type of VGA connection on the back of the mixer. This way, whatever the small screen displays can be displayed on a bigger monitor so you can see it better. It does add another monitor to the booth but I think it could benefit.


I think the problem with the size is not that you can't see it, it's that with the size of your fingertips, it doesn't provide a practically wide enough range for operation. What you could do with a knob (great control over how much you turn it, both in terms of speed and accuracy) might not be practically possible (i.e. a swipe with your finger might result in a much greater effect than you desired).


Posted by Marcus007 on Mar-10-2010 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
Meh....

For the cost of what it'll probably be, I'd rather take a lemur.


Posted by EddieZilker on Mar-10-2010 23:41:

I still want one of these:



but the DJM 2K seems worth looking into, as well.


Posted by Simon_N on Mar-11-2010 00:40:

Things like this just make me depressed i can't afford them.


Posted by david.michael on Mar-12-2010 13:54:

I see a lot of annoying white noise effects in our future.


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-12-2010 14:34:

hahaha.


while having the EFX options are nice, how many of us here really use them on a consistent basis i'm wondering?

i hardly, if ever, use them.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Mar-12-2010 16:26:

I had effects on the DJM800.

I never used them.

I swapped it for the Xone 92.

I now miss the effects.......


Posted by 4clubber on Mar-12-2010 17:56:

I use effects. They can spice up your set and, in addition to track selection and mixing skills, can help differentiate you from all the other DJs who just play tracks (which is very important today when everyone and their dog is a "dj"), especially when playing live. I have heard wannabe DJs who overuse a certain type of effect and it's annoying as hell, though. Once in a while I'm guilty of giving the filters (and sometimes delay) too much attention love those things


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-12-2010 18:23:

filters and delays are the only thing you really need


Posted by david.michael on Mar-12-2010 18:39:

The only FX I really use these days are a slow reverb build (to build anticipation) and a little bit of Traktor beatmasher (subtle, though... I don't try to make it sound glitchy and crazy, just use it to repeat a beat once at the end of a phrase every great once in a while.)


Posted by woscar on Mar-12-2010 21:56:

I don't know about you guys, but it looks like a fucking children's toy.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Mar-13-2010 07:24:

+1


Posted by chewy dragee on Mar-13-2010 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
filters and delays are the only thing you really need


I use echo quite a bit, if you transition and have to cut vocals or a melody you don't get a harsh cut off.

I use delay almost never, I can't seem to find a situation where it doesn't sound like shit. I'm probably not using it right.

Pioneer 2000 doesn't look too bad, although I probably would rather get a xone , the 4 eq = FTW.

Buy it here now? in stock?

http://www.theaudioworksuk.com/prod...XER&id_prd=1067


Posted by Simon_N on Mar-13-2010 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by chewy dragee
Buy it here now? in stock?

http://www.theaudioworksuk.com/prod...XER&id_prd=1067


I wouldn't trust that site. DjStore (Trusted Seller) says its expected in on the 1st of may.

http://www.djstore.com/item/mixers/piodjm2000.htm


Posted by DjWoody on Mar-13-2010 13:38:

ProSound says March 18th.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-13-2010 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
I don't know about you guys, but it looks like a fucking children's toy.


quote:
Originally posted by david.micheal
I see a lot of annoying white noise effects in our future.


$2000 Toy. I can't wait until I hear six FX over each track. really. I can't wait.

I think I'd prefer to drown my phone in LSD and rave to it's final sonic overdose.



but "-0.004 total harmonic distorion" and "pioneer mixer" in the same sentence?

ha

haha

HAHAH

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA


Posted by Brandt Slater on Mar-20-2010 00:14:

Six effects? Why would you ever need that many. How about leaving the music the way it was recorded? Hell, I don't even use that many in live sound.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Mar-20-2010 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
but "-0.004 total harmonic distorion" and "pioneer mixer" in the same sentence?

ha

haha

HAHAH

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA


What's behind this statement?


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-21-2010 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
What's behind this statement?


Which part of the joke didn't you get:

"pioneer" and "0.04% total harmonic distortion"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Cracks me up everytime. Maybe when it's switched off.

Seriously, a lot of audiophile amps don't offer figures that good.

Pioneer have done some good things, like their excellent CDJ's or bringing FX to the masses for cheap, but sound quality is simply not one of their fortes.

Vestax, Excler, Rane and Allen and Heath are all above pioneer in those stakes.

btw, I'm a qualified service tech for all those brands.


Posted by DjWoody on Mar-21-2010 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Vestax, Excler, Rane and Allen and Heath are all above pioneer in those stakes.

btw, I'm a qualified service tech for all those brands.


Vestax? Seriously? From my experience, all Vestax mixers I used sound like shit. Specially the 05 & 07. Ecler, Rane & A&H, yeah, but Vestax? No way.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-21-2010 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
Vestax? Seriously? From my experience, all Vestax mixers I used sound like shit. Specially the 05 & 07. Ecler, Rane & A&H, yeah, but Vestax? No way.


Ever used one that you'd compare to those in the same price range?

The 05 is $280 and the 07 $400. C'mon now Woody. Pioneer don't even make a mixer that cheap. And that's forgetting the fact both of those are entry level battle mixers, not house or install mixers where there's more a focus on sonic quality.

Try a Vestax 500 or a 580, then come back here and tell me that a pioneer sounds better. No chance.

Cox aint no fool.


Posted by Brandt Slater on Mar-22-2010 06:03:

I have a Vestax PMC-25 and it's the best sounding mixer I own. Well with one exception, my Urei. I'll have to go and listen to the 2000. I'm all about the sound quality.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-22-2010 06:33:

quote:
Originally posted by djkatmaus
I have a Vestax PMC-25 and it's the best sounding mixer I own. Well with one exception, my Urei. I'll have to go and listen to the 2000. I'm all about the sound quality.


Do not fucking tell me you've got an original Urei 1620 (not a soudcraft reissue)

And yes, the PMC 25 is beautiful mixer,


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