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We are on a trip where in this day in age holy fuck all my buttons above this post are moving seriously

I think Schr�dinger with this cat theory was the first to get into this line of thought.

Reminds of the book "is there life after death" by Anthony Peake.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Post-post-modern?

Whoa, whoa - I think you're getting a little ahead, here. We're probably pre-post-post modern at this point. The world is just so blas�, but I can't stop thinking about how I never enjoy not thinking about how enjoyable things are!

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Originally posted by Lira When I read a book I always put it in Morgan Freeman's voice. Now that's soothing.

I always use Tiny Tim's 'cause it's funny as hell.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles So a rejection of critical theory?

well, i heard peter eisenman, the famous architect, use it in a lecture. i think he personally meant it more or less as a term that affords total creative license without the need to invoke the quasi philosophical/linguistic bullshit that supported his earlier life's work.

but it also encompasses other areas of architecture that aren't subject to critical theory, like vernacular architecture, recycled architecture, DIY architecture etc, indeed a rejection of critical architectural theory, and that's something I am definitely interested in - I did my thesis on the topic actually.

but i hate terms like 'post-critical' and to even use the term negates the purpose.

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Originally posted by nefardec i've heard 'post-critical' recently. postmodern being one of the 'criticals'

I've heard post-theory, with postmodernism being one of (if not the) key critical and cultural theories of the 50s, 60s and 70s.

The trouble is, postmodernism seems very good at devouring everything it touches and perpetuating itself, so it's difficult to see past it, at least while our cultural conditions remain largely the same. Perhaps the Internet is the beginning of post-postmodernism.

I thought everything after the Sokal Affair was post-post-modernist already

Heh.

omg. moar post-modernism

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J The trouble is, postmodernism seems very good at devouring everything it touches and perpetuating itself, so it's difficult to see past it, at least while our cultural conditions remain largely the same. Perhaps the Internet is the beginning of post-postmodernism.

Yeah that's exactly it. But there are still ideas that are natively outside the discourse - of course by bringing them into the discourse you end up 'devouring' them as you say and it becomes part of the black hole of postmodernism. it seems to be basically the end of culture.

"The next real literary �rebels� in [America] might well emerge as some weird bunch of �anti-rebels,� born oglers who dare to step back from ironic watching, who have the childish gall to actually endorse single-entendre values. Who treat old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naive, anachronistic. Maybe that�ll be the point, why they�ll be the next real rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk things. Risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today's risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the "Oh how banal." To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law."

- David Foster Wallace, "E Unibus Pluram: Television and U.S. Fiction" [1990]

mumind

"got it" mentality.

Some comprehension of this comes from

http://esl.about.com/library/weekly/aa032999.htm

It doesn't matter if it is real, as long as it is something held.

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