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Originally posted by chinamon im talking about ANY situation.

i still don't understand what you mean in relation to this article.

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty im willing to bet my past dollar that georgia had something to do with this !!

Hmm Georgia was my first suspect one on the list too. I have a feeling as if they are trying to provoke Russia?

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew things in Russia are a bit different though the region of Chechnya has be a sore spot for way too long... the Russian pres. and the Chechen one really need to get to the bottom of this ASAP

That's exactly right, there's a lot of bad blood between them and a very bloody history......some wounds are hard to heal.....
Not fair to say ALL Chechens, Georgians etc are extremists though.........

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Hmm Georgia was my first suspect one on the list too. I have a feeling as if they are trying to provoke Russia?

with Medvedev as the president and Putin behind, fully supporting him...this could easily be the biggest mistake they ever made!!!

some wounds never heal, right. killing 186 CHILDREN should never be forgotten !!!

this has nothing to do with Georgia, few weeks ago Russians killed a very known chechen rebel known for past terrorist acts so this is a retaliation by them

http://lenta.ru/articles/2010/03/05/said/

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Originally posted by Skipper I went to Moscow last year and actually passed through one of the stations hit this morning. Between this and the bombing on the Nevsky train between St Petes and Moscow (which I took when I was there) - it is weird to think how little I knew of the instability there when I visited.

i never knew you went to moscow last year, how did you like it?

to be honest with you, it was unheard of even 10 years ago to have a bomb blast happen anywhere in moscow, just like it was unheard of to a have a blast in nyc or london or on a spanish train. It is not more unstable than anywhere else in the world and is still safe to travel to, we have tight police and security presence at all times, terrorists on the other hand can target any part of the world and hurt plain citizen to prove their point across, it could happen anywhere really, even in our own city unfortunately..

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Originally posted by geroin i still don't understand what you mean in relation to this article.

people were discussing if russia should retaliate against whomever is responsible for the bombings and how some of the world wouldnt agree with certain methods which may be considered. i was saying that i believe russia should fight back an eye for an eye.

fucking brutal!!

I'm calling in sick tomorrow

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Originally posted by chinamon im a firm believer in 'an eye for an eye'. if someone fucked with my country i would expect my country to retaliate at the same level or more.

so do you support the war in iraq?

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty open your eyes people, today it happened in russia, how long do you think is it gonna take for those extremists to start detonating in our own neighborhood???

We took care of some of them with the Toronto 18. We need help of the friendly moderates from the inside to weed out the extremists. It's that tiny minority who generate the worst image in a community, and they need to be weeded out.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie We took care of some of them with the Toronto 18. We need help of the friendly moderates from the inside to weed out the extremists. It's that tiny minority who generate the worst image in a community, and they need to be weeded out.

i agree but :

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One man has been convicted, four more have pleaded guilty, and the group's leader has been sentenced to life in prison. Six more are awaiting trial. Seven had the charges against them withdrawn or suspended, but the media are not allowed to report why according to Canadian law.

according to Canadian law?? what the fuck that means??

not releasing everybody names because of "canada's youth criminal justice act"??? so, fully trained terrorists will be freed for the reasons that we do not know, probably completely reintegrated into the society??

but this is the best part, this is the part that makes me shudder :

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These are kids at a transition, between Islamic society and Western society. A lot of people will get militarized if they're unsure of their own identity. They're just young and stupid. If you're 17, bored, restless, you want to meet girls � hey, be a radical."

these are the words of a canadian, giving an excuse for this...madness. i agree, we all did stupid, balsy thing to impress girls, get a good status with your peers but.... learning how to make a wmd out of manure??? give me a fucking break !!!

we didnt take care of some of them man, we were fucking lucky that time, pure and simple.

yet, almost nobody gives a fuck about this, on a day to day basis. you say minority and i agree on that too. but, whats 1% of one million??

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty i agree, we all did stupid, balsy thing to impress girls, get a good status with your peers but.... learning how to make a wmd out of manure??? give me a fucking break !!!

One TON of Ammonium Nitrate is more than just horseshit, but I get ya.

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty yet, almost nobody gives a fuck about this, on a day to day basis. you say minority and i agree on that too. but, whats 1% of one million??

1% too many.

Chechens are not responsible for this as real Chechen population is tired of war and are more concentrated on rebuilding and finally raising their kids. Take a look at the rebuilding process in Grozny that Russia has funded or the mosque thats being build courtesy of the Russians that exact replica of the one in Jordan.

In the past few months there have been numerous Chechen rebels destroyed and every time there was presence of Arabic militants amongst them. At one time a computer was captured and on it was spreadsheets containing transfers of funds from Europe, Middle East and Georgia(who's economy consists on nothing but handouts from US).

The people responsible for these acts may be by nationality Chechens or Ingush but they're mere puppets and are paid off by individuals wanting to destabilize Russia and reignite the Chechen conflict.

RIP for the people who have lost their lives.

I hope the retaliation will not cost innocent lives.

this is where my family works. park kultury. on the videos on russian channels they showed our office. first half of today's morning was tough on me and family. i go thru that station every single time i go to work in moscow. also walked thru avtozavodskaya back in 2004 a few hours before the explosion. it's on days like today i feel safe in richmond hill.

the list of those killed yesterday (7 more haven't been identified)

http://top.rbc.ru/special/metro/30/03/2010/386525.shtml

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew wow. ok so when was the last time Chechen extremists had done ANYTHING outside Russian federation? I'm talking CHECHEN nationals only, nothing to do with Islamic extremists in general.

there are a lot of Chechens fighting in other hot spots... though they tend to fight as Muslims against infidels not Chechens vs whoever.

then they could be doing it just for money, as mercs

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* so do you support the war in iraq?

Except Iraq didn't do anything in the first place other than piss off daddy Bush senior so an eye for an eye doesnt apply...

we are lucky French Canadians are not muslims

eye-for-eye my ass. read some history books about the start of the conflict between Chechens and Russians and then call me.

Thanks

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Originally posted by Sasha we are lucky French Canadians are not muslims eye-for-eye my ass. read some history books about the start of the conflict between Chechens and Russians and then call me. Thanks

Tbh there are tons of french canadian muslims lol

Can you elaborate a little bit more in terms of what your position is?

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Originally posted by geroin Tbh there are tons of french canadian muslims lol

There are few French-Canadian muslims, but there are many French-speaking Canadian muslims. There are even less Qu�b�cois who are muslims, and those have all converted. They have their panties in a knot over there with this distiction.

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Originally posted by Mag1k ...In the past few months there have been numerous Chechen rebels destroyed and every time there was presence of Arabic militants amongst them. At one time a computer was captured and on it was spreadsheets containing transfers of funds from Europe, Middle East and Georgia(who's economy consists on nothing but handouts from US). The people responsible for these acts may be by nationality Chechens or Ingush but they're mere puppets and are paid off by individuals wanting to destabilize Russia and reignite the Chechen conflict. RIP for the people who have lost their lives. I hope the retaliation will not cost innocent lives.

Ding Ding Ding

I have to agree 100%, this was meant to destabilize Russia and get them back to war. I wouldnt be surprised if this was false flag attack. Ether way its a horrible situation

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Originally posted by Brennen Ding Ding Ding I have to agree 100%, this was meant to destabilize Russia and get them back to war. I wouldnt be surprised if this was false flag attack. Ether way its a horrible situation

yeah this does sound like more plausible theory, but there may still be possible chechen separatists thing

man. radical militant people do crazy stuff

for those interested in global islamic jihad movement, I highly recommend A terrorist's call to global jihad; deciphering Abu Musab al-Suri's Islamic jihad manifesto. scary, yet insightful book

Bomb explodes in Athens, kills one

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A bomb exploded outside a building in central Athens on March 28, killing a 15-year-old boy and injuring his mother and sister, police said. �The woman, who was slightly injured, and the girl, whose injuries were more serious, have been taken to hospital," said the police official who declined to be named. Police said the victims were Afghan immigrants. The bomb, which went off outside an association for business management, also damaged cars and adjacent buildings. Police cordoned off the area and anti-terrorism police were investigating the scene. The explosion was the first in years to kill someone. Urban violence increased in the country after the police shooting of a teenager in December 2008. "There was no warning, there was nothing," a second police official said.

http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Bomb...0103/114054.vov

there were 2 more bombs in athens that were found and deactivated, thank God.

is all this a direct attack on Orthodox people???

2 car bombs, at least 12 dead and 18 injured in Dagestan, Russia... crazy
source

this is very sad.

pretty disturbing.

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