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Originally posted by Tranceporter99 Everyone I know with any MacBook, iBook, or Powerbook and any of the derivations of those models, still have and use them. I have seen as much as 7 years old laptop running. That does not happen with any other manufacturer. They are more expensive, yes. But overpriced? not at all. Plus OSX has been (or is, I haven't tried Windows 7 so I can't speak to now) superior to Windows.

They still use it because they are probably still trying to pay it off

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Originally posted by Acton Really? What the screen is like when performing outdoors or in a club is a big factor for me, but I obviously can't borrow one to try it out! I keep on hearing conflicting views

The glossy screen looks fantastic both indoors in a dark setting and outdoors in the sun, mate. Some problems do arrive when there's a source of light right in front of you because it will reflect your damn face on the screen. What I do in such a case is turn the brightness up to a maximum and it helps a lot.

Anyways, you can't choose the screen type anymore. All Macbooks come with the glossy screen now since it's a single block of glass.

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Originally posted by woscar The glossy screen looks fantastic both indoors in a dark setting and outdoors in the sun, mate. Some problems do arrive when there's a source of light right in front of you because it will reflect your damn face on the screen. What I do in such a case is turn the brightness up to a maximum and it helps a lot.

I think my concerns of the glossy screen are a bit over the top then, thanks for the opinion.

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Originally posted by woscar Anyways, you can't choose the screen type anymore. All Macbooks come with the glossy screen now since it's a single block of glass.

I thought you had the option of an alternative screen? Last time I looked the other screen was an optional �40 extra.

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Originally posted by woscar The glossy screen looks fantastic both indoors in a dark setting and outdoors in the sun, mate. Some problems do arrive when there's a source of light right in front of you because it will reflect your damn face on the screen. What I do in such a case is turn the brightness up to a maximum and it helps a lot.

Yeah, the LED-backlit screen is so good that it usually just blasts through any glare, lol.

But, a simple slight tilt of the screen can also help in that situation.

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Originally posted by bas $1199 for the Macbook Pro is actually cheaper than it has been In my opinion it's a better buy because they last longer. I bought my Macbook Pro about 3 years ago and I have absolutely no plans to change. Yes it cost about $1200 (employee discount ftw), but the only thing I've felt to change is the RAM.

haha you work for apple? me too!

/awaits an onslaught of pms asking for a discount...*sorry!*

My bad, just checked and it's still available. But only on the 15-inch and 17-inch models. It costs an extra $150 on the 15-inch and $50 on the 17-inch.

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Originally posted by Max Thomson haha you work for apple? me too! /awaits an onslaught of pms asking for a discount...*sorry!*

Nah FOX has an employee purchase program with Apple. We get like a 15-20% discount or something, I bought mine refurbished + discounted for about $1100. The only bummer was that I got mine in the mail the exact day that new Intel-Duo 2s came out and they were the same price

Ah i gotcha...i bought mine 3 years ago when the new models came out refurbished...saved me 30% but i guess apple isnt doing that any more

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Originally posted by Sunsnail I thought hyperthreading was really old :|

but doin' it on a multi-core is like cubin' a polytheist.

or something.

For anyone interested, I believe there's a trick to getting cheap(er) apple hardware.

If you purchase an Apple Developer account, you get a one-time discount on the purchase of any new computer or laptop. I haven't done this personally, but supposedly it drops the cost significantly, to around the price of a similarly spec'd PC.

Although the developer account isn't free, there's the most benefit for college/uni student developers, because if you can prove you're a college student (Faxing them a school ID, i think), the account is only $100(US) and the discount (supposedly) more than makes up for that.

And then if you're so inclined, you can always start building software for your mac

details here

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Originally posted by Acid John For anyone interested, I believe there's a trick to getting cheap(er) apple hardware. If you purchase an Apple Developer account, you get a one-time discount on the purchase of any new computer or laptop. I haven't done this personally, but supposedly it drops the cost significantly, to around the price of a similarly spec'd PC. Although the developer account isn't free, there's the most benefit for college/uni student developers, because if you can prove you're a college student (Faxing them a school ID, i think), the account is only $100(US) and the discount (supposedly) more than makes up for that. And then if you're so inclined, you can always start building software for your mac details here

Hmmmm, interesting.

rather wait for the rest of them to get the i5/i7. i really don't see much of a point in dishing 2000+ on a laptop with i7, especially if you're using it for music/film. the screen is small, although it is mobile, but not as expandable as the pro's/imacs. they're just milking the shit out of impatient people

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Originally posted by Tranceporter99 Everyone I know with any MacBook, iBook, or Powerbook and any of the derivations of those models, still have and use them. I have seen as much as 7 years old laptop running. That does not happen with any other manufacturer. They are more expensive, yes. But overpriced? not at all. Plus OSX has been (or is, I haven't tried Windows 7 so I can't speak to now) superior to Windows.

I've seen laptops just as old from Dell, HP, Asus, Sony etc that still work too. What's your point? Stop with the strawman arguments.

I think it's time you try Win7. You'll probably change your mind.

Was passing by the apple store and was about to pick one up but decided that I should wait for a refresh with a bit more features/improvement at the end of the year

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Originally posted by Fledz I've seen laptops just as old from Dell, HP, Asus, Sony etc that still work too. What's your point? Stop with the strawman arguments. I think it's time you try Win7. You'll probably change your mind.

seriously

as much as i love certain apple products, they are FUCKING OVERPRICED. not everyone has the same luck as you tranceporter. i bought my macbook a few years ago, 2 or so years. my screen has lines running down it, obviously graphical issues. the entire product is not as great as you think it is, it really isn't. the reason a lot of people are mac based is because its the standard in the entertainment industry, most of the best apps are mac based or work best with the mac. no studio uses pro tools with a pc, and obviously no one uses final cut with a pc because it's just not there

mac isn't that amazing, it has its flaws (this coming from a person that owns 2 macs). sure it's great to run mac only programs like logic or final cut, but it's the same as a pc, sometimes shit fucks up for no reason, and shit fucks up if you don't take care of it. steve jobs didn't invent the eternal personal computer. also, lewlll at you thinking that doesn't happen with any other manufacturer. my father owns a 10 year old laptop and it still runs great for his needs. why? because he takes care of it. it also runs windows xp

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Originally posted by jupiterone my father owns a 10 year old laptop and it still runs great for his needs. why? because he takes care of it. it also runs windows xp

this

I used to have a fully loaded Macbook pro (provided by my company) which was total overkill for my web browsing and basic media use. I ended up selling it a few months back, but since then have began to play with music production and I miss the macbook. Macs are beautiful and all, but if you get it just to be a cool hipster then you sir fail.

my brother still uses my cheap 5+ year old Dell laptop that is working without a hitch. While on the other hand my father owns an expensive Vaio and he ended up killing it within 4-6 months. Sony replaced it but he still had some problems with it. (and why the fuck do some of their older higher end laptops not have a Mute button?)

All laptops suck. Therefore, you shouldn't be investing much in one.

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Originally posted by jupiterone seriously as much as i love certain apple products, they are FUCKING OVERPRICED. not everyone has the same luck as you tranceporter. i bought my macbook a few years ago, 2 or so years. my screen has lines running down it, obviously graphical issues. the entire product is not as great as you think it is, it really isn't. the reason a lot of people are mac based is because its the standard in the entertainment industry, most of the best apps are mac based or work best with the mac. no studio uses pro tools with a pc, and obviously no one uses final cut with a pc because it's just not there mac isn't that amazing, it has its flaws (this coming from a person that owns 2 macs). sure it's great to run mac only programs like logic or final cut, but it's the same as a pc, sometimes shit fucks up for no reason, and shit fucks up if you don't take care of it. steve jobs didn't invent the eternal personal computer. also, lewlll at you thinking that doesn't happen with any other manufacturer. my father owns a 10 year old laptop and it still runs great for his needs. why? because he takes care of it. it also runs windows xp

You talkin a regular Macbook or MacBook Pro? Back 2-3 years ago there was a real gap in quality between the two. Not nearly as noticeable anymore in messing around with the newer ones.

My Pro from about 3 years ago is going strong with no problems, but other fellow law students that bought the regular white Macbooks have had issues like you mention.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman You talkin a regular Macbook or MacBook Pro? Back 2-3 years ago there was a real gap in quality between the two. Not nearly as noticeable anymore in messing around with the newer ones. My Pro from about 3 years ago is going strong with no problems, but other fellow law students that bought the regular white Macbooks have had issues like you mention.

regular macbook. funny thing is i treated it with so much respect, off every night, proper shut down, completely stock minus adium for messaging. for some reason, it started getting lines. first one line, now it's up to 6 various colored lines. just sucks because i spent like a summers savings on it at the time

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Originally posted by jupiterone regular macbook. funny thing is i treated it with so much respect, off every night, proper shut down, completely stock minus adium for messaging. for some reason, it started getting lines. first one line, now it's up to 6 various colored lines. just sucks because i spent like a summers savings on it at the time

Yeah man that blows for sure.

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Originally posted by jupiterone regular macbook. funny thing is i treated it with so much respect, off every night, proper shut down, completely stock minus adium for messaging. for some reason, it started getting lines. first one line, now it's up to 6 various colored lines. just sucks because i spent like a summers savings on it at the time

Yup, it's the damn regular Macbooks that are faulty. My sister has one of those and even though she takes good care of it, it's falling apart. The white plastic scratches very easily and very noticeably, her screen begins to flicker for no apparent reason whenever she plugs in the Magsafe, and the borders that join the bottom cover with the keyboard plate cracked in several places.

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Originally posted by jupiterone regular macbook. funny thing is i treated it with so much respect, off every night, proper shut down, completely stock minus adium for messaging. for some reason, it started getting lines. first one line, now it's up to 6 various colored lines. just sucks because i spent like a summers savings on it at the time

That's the thing, people get caught up in all this talk about manufacturers and what OS it is and so on to rationalise why something is broken. The fact of the matter is that hardware breaks and can be made faulty, regardless of whether it's a Mac or PC.

We've got a brand new Sony Bravia that's already got a line down the screen. You get duds, it happens. Buying a Mac or anything else won't really reduce the chance of something stuffing up.

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Originally posted by Fledz That's the thing, people get caught up in all this talk about manufacturers and what OS it is and so on to rationalise why something is broken. The fact of the matter is that hardware breaks and can be made faulty, regardless of whether it's a Mac or PC. We've got a brand new Sony Bravia that's already got a line down the screen. You get duds, it happens. Buying a Mac or anything else won't really reduce the chance of something stuffing up.

That's ludicrous. Are you suggesting that you have the exact same chance of having a Philips DVD Player get fucked than a JWIN?

Different brands buy their parts from different manufacturers and some are better than others. Some are ridiculously better than others, actually.

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Originally posted by woscar Different brands buy their parts from different manufacturers and some are better than others. Some are ridiculously better than others, actually.

While that's true, plenty of different brands buy their parts from the same manufacturer and you end up paying the cost of a little silver badge. Westinghouse & Pioneer TVs for example. Identical hardware, Pioneer costs way more.

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Originally posted by bas While that's true, plenty of different brands buy their parts from the same manufacturer and you end up paying the cost of a little silver badge. Westinghouse & Pioneer TVs for example. Identical hardware, Pioneer costs way more.

pioneers kuro is the fucking best
whatcha on about

edit: but I dont doubt that there cheap line shared the same hardware as the westinghouse. oh since pioneer tv are no mas, panasonic uses their technology from now on

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