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Posted by Swamper on Apr-26-2010 16:02:

Also read this thread and there are some others out there...

I agree with the others, start small and don't expect to not take some hits. They help you learn.

Heh, I remember thinking what a dumb move it was for me to buy Lulemon ages ago only to have it drop over 75%...and now it's recovered, I'm glad I didn't bail but I'm surprised it recovered the way it did.


Posted by Skipper on Apr-26-2010 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Also read this thread and there are some others out there...

I agree with the others, start small and don't expect to not take some hits. They help you learn.

Heh, I remember thinking what a dumb move it was for me to buy Lulemon ages ago only to have it drop over 75%...and now it's recovered, I'm glad I didn't bail but I'm surprised it recovered the way it did.


I don't know too many non speculative stocks that have increased 1000% (from $4 to 44) in essentially the last year. It is an incredible story (that investors are paying a lot for at current levels, unfortunately).


Posted by mute79 on Apr-26-2010 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Any tips for first timers?


high yield bonds etfs

low fees, steady income (at about 3x the inflation rate), and most importantly you won't lose any sleep or suffer from insomnia/depression


Posted by jester on Apr-26-2010 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I don't know too many non speculative stocks that have increased 1000% (from $4 to 44) in essentially the last year. It is an incredible story (that investors are paying a lot for at current levels, unfortunately).


I just checked with Google Finance, there was only 20 stocks that went up 1000% in 52 weeks.


Posted by Skipper on Apr-26-2010 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
I just checked with Google Finance, there was only 20 stocks that went up 1000% in 52 weeks.


Nice - what kind of stocks were they? I guess I could just run the query myself...


Posted by jester on Apr-26-2010 16:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Nice - what kind of stocks were they? I guess I could just run the query myself...


That I am not sure :/


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-26-2010 16:58:

if you put your money in basically anything in april, you were pretty much guaranteed a 100% gain.


Posted by Skipper on Apr-26-2010 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
if you put your money in basically anything in april, you were pretty much guaranteed a 100% gain.


Yes - I said 1000% (not a typo)


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-26-2010 18:39:

i know

i was just making an addition to your statement.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-26-2010 18:59:

i just ran a query through my brokerage and found 88 canadian companies that have moved 1000% from their 52 week low.

heres the doc file if anyone wants to see


code:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/azgxip


Posted by jester on May-04-2010 15:48:

I am going to be sick. In the past week I lost about $3k. Just today its so far $850.


Posted by Skipper on May-04-2010 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
I am going to be sick. In the past week I lost about $3k. Just today its so far $850.


On what?


Posted by jester on May-04-2010 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
On what?


AIB
GE
BMO
POW
CME
AAPL
BBD.A

My whole portfolio.


Posted by chw on May-04-2010 18:45:

anyone using a tfsa to invest?

if so, any tips/points?


Posted by Skipper on May-04-2010 18:47:

It's not a loss til you sell.

With the TSX sitting at over 12,000 it might be time to think of taking some money off the table if this kind of volatility has you running numbers on paper losses in your head. I think investors are starting to question what kind of steam is left in a market that has exceeded everyone's expectations for the last 12 or more months, which means the negative news (I think today's data that might have spooked the market was Chinese inflation #s) is going to have more of an impact than it might have had previously.

My $0.02 anyways


Posted by DigiNut on May-05-2010 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
It's not a loss til you sell.

Not a loss of what? Not a loss of cash, I guess, for tax purposes; it's certainly a loss of capital. If you trade actively and don't mark to market then you're doing yourself a disservice. Holding on to an underperforming stock because selling would make it a real "loss" is just silly.

Oh, and...


quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Buying: Nothing right now, market's too hot.

Am I right or am I right, folks? Finally starting to see some more reasonable prices. I'm glad I got out when I did.


Posted by Skipper on May-05-2010 13:36:

Unf, what a brutal open.
It's been a long time since we've seen several hundred point swings like this.


Posted by jester on May-05-2010 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Unf, what a brutal open.
It's been a long time since we've seen several hundred point swings like this.




bye bye money

If things don't get better by the afternoon, I am selling everything and going to buy back in when things go back up.

I wonder how much lower silver will go down now :/


Posted by slingshot on May-05-2010 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Unf, what a brutal open.
It's been a long time since we've seen several hundred point swings like this.


Greece, an oil spill, a scandal at one of the most esteemed brokerages....it makes sense. I'm kind of happy the market has pulled back a bit, I need to average down a few of my holdings.


Posted by DigiNut on May-05-2010 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Unf, what a brutal open.
It's been a long time since we've seen several hundred point swings like this.

I learned my lesson last year... never check the numbers before 10:30 AM.

quote:
Originally posted by jester
If things don't get better by the afternoon, I am selling everything and going to buy back in when things go back up.

You've got it backwards man, you're supposed to buy low and sell high.


Posted by jester on May-05-2010 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I learned my lesson last year... never check the numbers before 10:30 AM.


You've got it backwards man, you're supposed to buy low and sell high.


the way i see it... everything slowly crashing, there goes all my gains. Soon enough I will be back to like 2008/2009.

Plus some people are saying China might have huge financial problems as early as 6 months.

Between Greece and oil now. After China


Posted by DigiNut on May-05-2010 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
the way i see it... everything slowly crashing, there goes all my gains. Soon enough I will be back to like 2008/2009.

Lol, every time the market corrects people go "OMG THE MARKET'S CRASHING, END OF THE WORLD!" and that's when I buy.

Panic selling won't get you anywhere. You need to have targets. Don't say "I'll sell if it goes down and buy if it goes up", that's a horrible strategy, you've gotta have some perspective, some longer-term goals. Unless you're day trading, but if that's your game then you're moving way too slowly.

All I'm saying is think it through, don't make decisions involving large amounts of real money based on emotions.


Posted by Skipper on May-06-2010 11:08:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
the way i see it... everything slowly crashing, there goes all my gains. Soon enough I will be back to like 2008/2009.

Plus some people are saying China might have huge financial problems as early as 6 months.

Between Greece and oil now. After China


Can I ask how long you've been holding most of your investments and how long you expected to hold them before taking some gains?

Diginut is right, without any idea of what a stock is worth vs what you paid you'll constantly be panicking over daily market fluctuations.


Posted by jester on May-06-2010 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Can I ask how long you've been holding most of your investments and how long you expected to hold them before taking some gains?

Diginut is right, without any idea of what a stock is worth vs what you paid you'll constantly be panicking over daily market fluctuations.


Some since Dec 2008. Some are more recent say 4-6 months.


Posted by Skipper on May-06-2010 13:08:

Surely on the ones since Dec 08 you've seen some decent gains - if you think they are fairly valued now, time to sell. If you dont have any notion of what a stock should trade at though, how do you know when to buy/sell?


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