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PC is better for FPS.

1. Mouse. (Some console has mouse also)
2. Ability to upgrade Hardware. Make that game faster!
3. Keyboard. Unlimited flexibility in your custom keyboard layouts

But its true, Console is catching up.

No question PC.

I can't run around as easily as I can and run circles around my opponents for FPS as easily as I can (or at all) and rain down firey hell upon them as I can with a PC.

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Originally posted by netroM You failed to mention Metroid. IMO it works really good with the Trilogy

I haven't played it on Wii but the reviews seem really good.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Admittedly ive only played about a dozen wii games, but the wiimote sucked for all of them. Its just not accurate enough.

I'm not getting what is so 'inaccurate' about it. The reticle goes where you point it. Other than that I don't really like the way turning is handled via 'dead zones'. I would have preferred the PC style of 0 dead zone and the reticle stays in the middle of the screen the whole time and only the camera moves.

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Originally posted by DancingMonkey I'm not getting what is so 'inaccurate' about it. The reticle goes where you point it. Other than that I don't really like the way turning is handled via 'dead zones'. I would have preferred the PC style of 0 dead zone and the reticle stays in the middle of the screen the whole time and only the camera moves.

They aren't able to do that because there's no practical way to "reset" your wiimote once you've run it off-screen.

With a mouse, it's a simple process of lifting it off the table and placing it back where you feel comfortable as your "center", with the wiimote, they'd have to incorporate a button to halt the tracking of the wiimote in the IR field, and the wiimote is sorely lacking in buttons as it is.

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Originally posted by DancingMonkey I'm not getting what is so 'inaccurate' about it.

It�s a piece of shit, providing �floaty� response to your inputs, as well as moving around by minute amounts even though you�re holding it as still as humanly possible. It is inferior to a mouse/keyboard or gamepad in virtually every gaming situation I can think of.

it's all about the 360 game controller for FPS! it makes everything more realistic! isn't that right btg

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Originally posted by smcmulli it's all about the 360 game controller for FPS! it makes everything more realistic! isn't that right btg

don't listen to him he's an idiot lol

Honestly, what is the point of this thread?

Those true nerds, that have forlorn their social lives and have played video games for the past 20+ years (like myself) know that the answer to this debate is as clear as the difference between night and day. Honestly, its not even a debate. After all, we have social etiquette that states it improper for me to point and laugh, generally ridicule someone that would be considered mentally challenged. It is the accepted norm of behavior. It is ridiculous to expect someone of this mental capacity to think and rationalize within the same context of a fully-developed mind.

We can list points, pros/cons of each, but the simple fact is that a control scheme that grants you the freedom of immersion, of altering your environment using inputs that are as instinctive and controllable as your own ability to walk and breathe is the clearly superior and ultimate form of gaming. The movements of the input devices are directly and strictly, in an analog fashion (despite its digital form of signal transmission) correlated to your onscreen avatar.

The only control schemes that will surpass the mouse+keyboard are in our near future, and gaining ground. These control schemes will eliminate the need for physical interaction, and will rely on our own thought processes to interpret signals and translate them to the virtual world. And guess what, due to the simple fact that all of these platforms are ultimately and undeniably first developed on a PC, they will inherently first appear on a PC for mass consumption.

I welcome your arguments...

Its depend of the game. some games are good only on a pc. all the games that i use to play such as flight simulator its better for a pc. but sonic or Teken its not.

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Originally posted by zokissima Honestly, what is the point of this thread? Those true nerds, that have forlorn their social lives and have played video games for the past 20+ years (like myself) know that the answer to this debate is as clear as the difference between night and day. Honestly, its not even a debate. After all, we have social etiquette that states it improper for me to point and laugh, generally ridicule someone that would be considered mentally challenged. It is the accepted norm of behavior. It is ridiculous to expect someone of this mental capacity to think and rationalize within the same context of a fully-developed mind. We can list points, pros/cons of each, but the simple fact is that a control scheme that grants you the freedom of immersion, of altering your environment using inputs that are as instinctive and controllable as your own ability to walk and breathe is the clearly superior and ultimate form of gaming. The movements of the input devices are directly and strictly, in an analog fashion (despite its digital form of signal transmission) correlated to your onscreen avatar. The only control schemes that will surpass the mouse+keyboard are in our near future, and gaining ground. These control schemes will eliminate the need for physical interaction, and will rely on our own thought processes to interpret signals and translate them to the virtual world. And guess what, due to the simple fact that all of these platforms are ultimately and undeniably first developed on a PC, they will inherently first appear on a PC for mass consumption. I welcome your arguments...

I don't remember the Wiimote existing on PC first... But then, I'm a console junkie.

The market will dictate where we see the best and newest technology, and right now, all signs point to console... possibly portable even.

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Originally posted by Spam I don't remember the Wiimote existing on PC first... But then, I'm a console junkie. The market will dictate where we see the best and newest technology, and right now, all signs point to console... possibly portable even.

The Wiimote, along with other technologies from Sony (the motion sensing PS3 controller), and the soon to be released technology from Microsoft(albeit, this is in a different category) still rely on the same principle of manipulation and control input; the translation of your physical movements into a digitized form. Thus, as much as you may argue that it is different, at its core, the concept is the same. You are still using a hand-held tool to interact with your digital environment. On a strictly technical level, the wiimote is not nearly as precise as a mouse.

Microsoft is taking a step ahead in the sense that you no longer need to actually have a physical device attached to your person to interact with what is presented to you on-screen. Although this too is not really new.

The step which I was referring to is something like the link below. Granted it may be far off, and who knows if it will really take off, but from a strictly evolutionary perspective, this is the direction that I meant.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2...,2363002,00.asp

the consoles are welcome to shit tech like the wiimote or kinect.

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Originally posted by zokissima Honestly, what is the point of this thread? Those true nerds, that have forlorn their social lives and have played video games for the past 20+ years (like myself) know that the answer to this debate is as clear as the difference between night and day. Honestly, its not even a debate. After all, we have social etiquette that states it improper for me to point and laugh, generally ridicule someone that would be considered mentally challenged. It is the accepted norm of behavior. It is ridiculous to expect someone of this mental capacity to think and rationalize within the same context of a fully-developed mind. We can list points, pros/cons of each, but the simple fact is that a control scheme that grants you the freedom of immersion, of altering your environment using inputs that are as instinctive and controllable as your own ability to walk and breathe is the clearly superior and ultimate form of gaming. The movements of the input devices are directly and strictly, in an analog fashion (despite its digital form of signal transmission) correlated to your onscreen avatar. The only control schemes that will surpass the mouse+keyboard are in our near future, and gaining ground. These control schemes will eliminate the need for physical interaction, and will rely on our own thought processes to interpret signals and translate them to the virtual world. And guess what, due to the simple fact that all of these platforms are ultimately and undeniably first developed on a PC, they will inherently first appear on a PC for mass consumption. I welcome your arguments...

errrr, k.

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Originally posted by GhostFaceKillah errrr, k.

As I said, I welcome the arguments, if only to propagate the discussion.

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Originally posted by dexter737 Its depend of the game. some games are good only on a pc. all the games that i use to play such as flight simulator its better for a pc. but sonic or Teken its not.

Flight Simulator was never for a console, so it can't be used as an example. Tekken is better in the arcade. Sonic is console only unless u use an emulator. Bot fail.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN the consoles are welcome to shit tech like the wiimote or kinect.

I think it's sad and hilarious Sony & M$ are scrambling to catch up to the Wii with their bullshit motion controllers. No one plays the Wii really anymore these days as it is. PS3 owners are waiting for one good game at this point, and the 360 fanboys only want to play gay ass Halo which is coming, and CoD. Nobody wants those Wii wannabe controllers.

PC for gameplay and insane control...

Console for better experience in my opinion, and most casual gaming.

Lets face it...people care more about your MW2 score in Xbox Live rather than PC these days.

More user friendly IMO.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I think it's sad and hilarious Sony & M$ are scrambling to catch up to the Wii with their bullshit motion controllers. No one plays the Wii really anymore these days as it is. PS3 owners are waiting for one good game at this point, and the 360 fanboys only want to play gay ass Halo which is coming, and CoD. Nobody wants those Wii wannabe controllers.

What are you talking about? TONS of people still player Wii...

Gamers, however, do not.

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Originally posted by Spam What are you talking about? TONS of people still player Wii... Gamers, however, do not.

lol, exactly.

What of shitty yet addictive Halo 3?

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I think it's sad and hilarious Sony & M$ are scrambling to catch up to the Wii with their bullshit motion controllers. No one plays the Wii really anymore these days as it is. PS3 owners are waiting for one good game at this point, and the 360 fanboys only want to play gay ass Halo which is coming, and CoD. Nobody wants those Wii wannabe controllers.

It is kind of funny how idiotic sony and microsoft are. For some reason they actually think the reason nintendo outsells them is because of the motion sensing technology. At least with the PS3 one, you'll look like fucking gandalf the grey with that retarded glowing bulb on the end of your controller.

Oh, and you can add me to the list of people who play the wii. I'll be waiting and playing top of the line games like mario galaxy 1 and 2, new SMB, skyward sword, monster hunter 3, donkey kong country returns, epic mickey, kirby's epic yarn, COD: black ops, etc.

Nintendo is winning because it has the only true gaming console. It has games that are simply fun to play...games that you would rather play on the wii than anything else. Every good PS3 and 360 game I would rather play on a PC.

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