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Originally posted by Anakratis Really? When I tested them at Guitar Center, they didn't really fit my style. I guess it's all personal opinion hah

They may not have fitted your style but they're better monitors

Being serious, I did a three session shootout at two different guitar centers to really compare every brand and model of monitor and posted the results here. Yes, they are subjective, but I drew comparisons of speakers in different environments, and A/B'd each one against each other. That's where I really found the problem with KRK's:

With a lot of the monitors, I could pinpoint an easily noticeable problem, such as the adams being too bright or the BM6's having slightly too little bass or the BX8's having completely muddy lower mid. But with the KRK's there was just a spectrum wide lack of clarity - it's subtle but it's definitely there and really stuck out against other models like HS80's, BM5As, HR824's etc. They don't sound terrible but once I realised what they're missing it became incredibly hard to not let it bother me.

It's just my opinion, but I've now spoken to many others including on here that have the same take on them - I just feel there's better out there for the money, that's all.

Yeah, I think that he should switch those AV40s to any kind of speakers discuss above (anything is better then AV40s) - the choice is his and I want him to understand that, whatever he decide to do in the next few days, he can always change his mind later. Over the time he will notice some small differences between speaker/sound and will gain/develop his own taste for what he would like to hear.


Cheers

I've had my KRK V6's for about 4 years now.. paid $500 back then.. While I "do" think it adds slight color to the sound to make things sound better.. just get used to them.. (as you would need to with any others) they work perfectly fine for producing.
For $300, I think it's worth the money as long as they're in good working conidtion.

V6s are excellent speakers, don't listen to KRK hate on here. Anything will be better than Av40s. Make sure that they are in decent condition though.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN They may not have fitted your style but they're better monitors Being serious, I did a three session shootout at two different guitar centers to really compare every brand and model of monitor and posted the results here. Yes, they are subjective, but I drew comparisons of speakers in different environments, and A/B'd each one against each other. That's where I really found the problem with KRK's:

Eh...

I'm guessing the speakers were in different locations, and the Guitar Center production room isn't the same as your own studio...

it's kind of pointless to try and make an objective decision.

Whatever you decide is an upgrade from what you currently have. I think you should head to a shop and give them a listen before purchasing tho just my opinion

Tomorrow I'm picking up some Mackie MR8s from a girl off craigslist for $400. My first real monitors, been on shitty speakers and cans so far.

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Originally posted by Kevy Kev Tomorrow I'm picking up some Mackie MR8s from a girl off craigslist for $400. My first real monitors, been on shitty speakers and cans so far.

Yes, this is great choice - you will be happy from them.

Cheers

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Originally posted by Beatflux Eh... I'm guessing the speakers were in different locations, and the Guitar Center production room isn't the same as your own studio... it's kind of pointless to try and make an objective decision.

I explained everything in this thread. You can't ever really do a fully scientifically controlled test unless you had a completely controlled environment and the space to set them up so you could A/B all of them without interference.

The best I could do was a comparitive test, taking the environment and placement in to consideration, so really they were all subject to the same disadvantages, then seeing if that same flaw (and positives) presented in the other listening environments, to really see if they were common traits of each monitor. I'm also an engineer so I've used a lot of monitors professionally and some of my feedback is based on my experience in professional studio environments (not bedroom or project studios).

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=5

Ne

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Originally posted by tehlord Not really. You stated that KRK monitors are more suited to Djing than producing. I still believe that's BS.

The Rokits definitely are. I've got the RP6 to DJ with but I would not use them to produce. They just aren't clear enough.

Next to my Dynaudio BM5a they are vastly inferior. Not rubbish of course, but definitely not what I would recommend for producing.

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Originally posted by Fledz The Rokits definitely are. I've got the RP6 to DJ with but I would not use them to produce. They just aren't clear enough. Next to my Dynaudio BM5a they are vastly inferior. Not rubbish of course, but definitely not what I would recommend for producing.

The BM5a's are really lovely monitors. The KRK's sound like they're made of stiff plastic next the clarity of of the dynaudios.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN The BM5a's are really lovely monitors. The KRK's sound like they're made of stiff plastic next the clarity of of the dynaudios.

They're also 2 1/2 times more expensive than the RP6s.

Hardly fair!

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Originally posted by tehlord They're also 2 1/2 times more expensive than the RP6s. Hardly fair!

I get what you're saying but I said KRK's (in general) over the BM5a's.

I'd take a used pair of BM5s over any KRK's (well, maybe with the exception of the expose range).

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I get what you're saying but I said KRK's (in general) over the BM5a's. I'd take a used pair of BM5s over any KRK's (well, maybe with the exception of the expose range).

To be fair I probably would have if any were avavilable at the time of my purchase.


We'll have to settle this with an arm wrestle.


It's the only logical course of action left.

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Originally posted by tehlord To be fair I probably would have if any were avavilable at the time of my purchase. We'll have to settle this with an arm wrestle. It's the only logical course of action left.

It's on. Next time I am in the royal county, I shall throw my glove at your feet for gentlemen's fisticuffs!

In fairness, the KRK's a little while ago were great value and cent monitors, but Yamaha and JBL both stepped it up, and I actually think it was due to KRK's partial dominance of the entry level studio monitor market.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It's on. Next time I am in the royal county, I shall throw my glove at your feet for gentlemen's fisticuffs! In fairness, the KRK's a little while ago were great value and cent monitors, but Yamaha and JBL both stepped it up, and I actually think it was due to KRK's partial dominance of the entry level studio monitor market.

I shall polish my pistol in readiness.....no, scratch that!

I think the market for Rokits is mostly based on people like myself who bought them as a first set, and their ability far outstripped my own and still may do in a decent room!

The BM5a absolutely are lovely monitors

I also totally agree that it's a bit unfair to compare them because of the price. What I'm getting at is that monitors are a critical part of the studio and my belief is that it's better to save up a bit longer and get something quality. KRKs are not bad but I honestly think that with just a little bit more cash you can start to get much better monitors or even stuff like Dyns if you go for second hand. Yamaha is perfect example, they are going for next to nothing these days

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Originally posted by Kevy Kev Tomorrow I'm picking up some Mackie MR8s from a girl off craigslist for $400. My first real monitors, been on shitty speakers and cans so far.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Yes, this is great choice - you will be happy from them. Cheers

I'm thinking about buying a pair of Mackie HR824mk2's or the original HR824's. I've also done some research on the Yamaha HS80M as Rann suggested and now I'm undecided about which to get. I have tested the Mackies and they sound GREAT. I haven't heard the Yamaha's but from the reviews I've read people say they are accurate. I'm tight for cash but eager to buy my first pair of monitors. I have saved almost enough to buy the Yamaha's but I lean more towards the Mackies for personal preference. I'd like to hear an opinion on this. Can anyone give an experienced recommendation or personal view/appraisal of those monitors?

Ive got the 824 mkIIs - i find them to be very nice even though get monumentally slated across the internet
Just make sure you have plenty of bass traps as these yokes put out a fair bit of low end

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Originally posted by evo8 Ive got the 824 mkIIs - i find them to be very nice even though get monumentally slated across the internet Just make sure you have plenty of bass traps as these yokes put out a fair bit of low end

That would be my choice.

Cheers

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 That would be my choice. Cheers

thing is i use a combination of my mackies, my dt880s, my hifi that has 9" subs, my ipod and my car to get my mixes sounding the way i want them

As long as you dont pick a complete turkey of a monitor then you should be able to mix ok on them

@amongthesavages - I would recommend treating your room for bass response if you havent already, will make any monitor you purchase sound much better.

I didn't get the mackies Craigslist girl said she that her boyfriend told her to not sell them. It was too good to be true at $400, now I'm going to hold off and either find another pair on craigslist or get them brand new. I haven't listened to any other mackies other than the MR8s and they sounded lovely to my ears.

Patience

I auditioned several monitors at a pro audio store today. Between the Mackie MR8's, JBL's, KRK, and Yamaha HS80M I found the Yama's to be the truth. Though I have heard the Mackie HR824's and they sounded amazing, i'm on a low budget and the Yama's will accomplish everything I want. So I think I'm going to purchase them soon. I can't wait. Thank you all for the input.

Great that you went out an took the time to have a listen for yourself. Yamaha's are (in my opinion) a great choice in that price range.

don't forget some absorbtion treatment for your room, monitor choice is only half the story (if even that). If you do have room for something (something is much better than nothing in this case), google Ethan Winer. He is some kind of acoustics god and shows how to make cheap sound absorbers.

We put an article up on the site as well with a few photos, the difference the treatment made was amazing.
http://www.quantizecourses.com/pages.php/?cat=16

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