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Originally posted by NooKLeaR tiesto !!! i love IMM - great album. Filled with all dif kinds of songs....uplfiting...progressive...everything!! he just needs to quit all the prog stuff and get back to his uplifting stuff!! man those were the days....energy 2000!!!

the way i see it is that time was great but you have to move on!!
btw i don't think that tiesto plays prog.! give me a tracklist and i'll judge!

I hate Dumonde Trancer!!! you�re comments are not true!! they�re also shit!! FUCK OFF!!

By far James Holden is the most innovative. Just take a listen to his essential mix if you doubt that. Everyone else seems to stick to the same 909 drum pattern with minor changes. James Holden's songs use new sounds that you can tell took hours to tweak.

Moogwai comes in a close second.

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Originally posted by T_2199 I hate Dumonde Trancer!!! you�re comments are not true!! they�re also shit!! FUCK OFF!!

please remove your post dude.. go flame in someone else's thread! or even better keep your flames to yourself.. everyone has their own mind and thoughts so please shut up!!

As far as innovativeness... I am a huge fan of BT just because of how each of his songs has that touch and when you hear it you go, "damn BT is an awesome producer!" Yeah, his not as diverse as some, but up there for me none-the-less. Holden as well is an innovative producer.. His tracks are all over the place in the prog genre and i lvoe it! My fav for sure.

-m

Ferry Corsten has been fairly innovative as of late. Compare Punk, Pocket Damage and Ligaya, it's amazing how many different things he can do.

But, I think the most innovative track as of late HAS to be Jurgen Vries - The Theme... which is Darren Tate from what I hear. It's the first GOOD trance tune I've heard that gets away from the nonstop Roland JP-8000 leads. It was different, and it was good

M.I.K.E by a mile or more this guy can do it all

i must say after hearing feel you for the first time i know now for sure that marco v doesn't play all kinds of genres he isn't too shy to produce all kinds of genres himself too!

atlanta, feel you, indicator, simulated, tolerance (or recovered).. damn what a quality list!

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Originally posted by T_2199 I hate Dumonde Trancer!!! you�re comments are not true!! they�re also shit!! FUCK OFF!!

LMFAO. im so happy im not liked by a gimp! thankyou!

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Originally posted by TimeportE i get your point but what i wanna make clear is that for an example.. armin he usually produces great (imo) energetic trance tunes but then his latest own production is more of a progressive tune (sunspot)!! producers who have the balls to do that kind of thing are in my opinion innovative and aren't afraid to do something "new"..

yeh id say armin is the MOST innovative but nobody is really that broad to cover lots in their productions. and armin does a damn god job of it too

ferry corsten, tiesto. also mauro picotto (compare proximus, awesome, and deep blue.)

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR i disagree. why? because tiesto is trying to fit with the whole techy sound that is popular atm, if you look at all the tracks he plays about 90% have techy elements within them. he hardly plays any uplifting trance whatsoever. or hardtrance. so you could hardly say he covers the whole spectrum. i would have to say matt hardwick. he manages to play SHOKK and andain in the same set he is the most versitile in music structure and crowd reaction, all 99% of you will ever have heard is his warm up, when he plays a proper set, you will see he is the most versitile dj around, ask tu_face or spad or anyone who saw him do his 4 hours set at gatecrasher or at promsie (me) matt hardwick is the msot underated DJ i nthe world atm, and actually, i think i like it that way

im with ya all the way on that comment about matt hardwick. yesterday i d/led his old set from 2000 at sydney gatecrasher just to see how he spins and fuck what a outstanding set it was. it was versatile and it had a precise flow from one track to another with great strucure. hes amazing indeed.

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Originally posted by tranceraver31 im with ya all the way on that comment about matt hardwick. yesterday i d/led his old set from 2000 at sydney gatecrasher just to see how he spins and fuck what a outstanding set it was. it was versatile and it had a precise flow from one track to another with great strucure. hes amazing indeed.

yeh that was back when he was just finding his feet o nthe international stage, nowadays he plays an even more awesome combinations of proggy/uplifting/hard trance, he always plays the final set at a local club near me kinda, called promise. he is resident and when he plays last set he is the greatest

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR he is nothing! his remixes are poor! he album was fucking awful, and hes sets are far from entertaining.

I�ve never imagine there could be such a load of BULLSHIT in one same sentence. How you dare to say all this lies when you know they�re nou true. You�re talking about DJ Tiesto!!!!! This only demonstrates how you really are an obsessed anti-Tiesto.

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR Magik Journey In my memory Obsession Lethal Industry all these rtacks are practially the same

Oh man, you sound like you�ve never listened them, but I know you have, so stop saying lies.

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR im not flaming, im showing my point

Oh yes, and what a way to show your point to the people who respect Tiesto:

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR ...you just another rbainwashed tiesto fan ...he just has a bunch of idiot wannabe followers... ...he used to be good, but he isnt anymore! thats why he won the fucking dancestar award...

Look DuMonde TrAnCeR, I don�t know why you hate Tiesto so much, but just to make this forum more comfortable for all: please stop flaming Tiesto threads, or if you disagree with something, please express your opinion without flaming the others, and more important, without false arguments.

okay dumonde trancer and master keep it down.. fight your fights over pm if you want to.. but not in this thread i wouldn't like it if a mod would have to close this one because until now everyone was quite openminded and didn't flame.. so lets keep the discussion normal!!

Cass And Slide & Mauro Picotto. You'll never know what they will produce next. They use such variety which i love.

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Originally posted by TimeportE okay dumonde trancer and master keep it down.. fight your fights over pm if you want to.. but not in this thread i wouldn't like it if a mod would have to close this one because until now everyone was quite openminded and didn't flame.. so lets keep the discussion normal!!

im not fighting, this idiot started on me coz he couldnt handle my opinion, whcih is jsut and truthful,

master, if you cant handle the truth, why do you even bother?

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Originally posted by The Master I�ve never imagine there could be such a load of BULLSHIT in one same sentence. How you dare to say all this lies when you know they�re nou true. You�re talking about DJ Tiesto!!!!! This only demonstrates how you really are an obsessed anti-Tiesto.

his album was awful,dire and boring, tiesot has done much greater works the previous two years, now he is jsut commercial and tried to combine trendy with underground, making poor half baked tracks and remixes. ive neevr had any beef with tiesto, but the fcat everyoen now raves on abotu him as if hes god, even tho he is a poor shadow of his former self, makes me sick.

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Oh man, you sound like you�ve never listened them, but I know you have, so stop saying lies.

ive heard them all and they all sound VEYR similar, just basic tachy tracks with a different veriety of progresssive style melody of the top. nothign compared to the works of tiesto previous, like urban train (masterpiece) and hsi remix of flesh (genius)

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Oh yes, and what a way to show your point to the people who respect Tiesto:

this is a thread for opiniosmn right? for a discussion, i put forward my discussion and you came back with an arguement, you are in the wrong. who cares who everyone likes, the thread asks for my opinion and i gave it. deal with it.

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Look DuMonde TrAnCeR, I don�t know why you hate Tiesto so much, but just to make this forum more comfortable for all: please stop flaming Tiesto threads, or if you disagree with something, please express your opinion without flaming the others, and more important, without false arguments.

i may DISLIKE tiesto, but i hate hsi fans who think ehs the be all and end all, when he is nothing compared to what he was early 2001, you jsut a follower who thinks that anything tiesto is "always right". please think up real repeonses to my comments, rather than jsut syaing "your just a lier blah blah blah" not just or analytical at all. secondly i am not flaming, you started on me, i posted my honest opinion which is basically the sad truth of the rpesent, and you couldnt handle it so lashed out. timewarpE undertood this and responed correctly and appropriatly, you however are a brainwashes tool who worships the toilet paper tiesot wipes his arse with.


face it, tiesto is a has-been come pop star now.


goodnight.

The most innovative is probably either Armin or Flutlicht. I personally prefer Flutlicht's style, but both of them are very innovative producers.

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR timewarpE undertood this and responed correctly and appropriatly

heeeyyyy!!!! if you're using the name, make sure you spell it right dude!

you had a couple of good points lets see how master will reply (please, in a normal fasion people )

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Originally posted by TimeportE heeeyyyy!!!! if you're using the name, make sure you spell it right dude!

ooops soz felt i got it wrong but didnt scroll down to check

Laurent Veronnez

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You know DuMonde TrAnCeR? just by watching the picture on your signature, one can realize you�re one of that persons impossible to convince. I�ve said all I had to say so I�m not willing to explain it to you again, maybe if you just read it again as an impartial person you would understand; and for some respect to TimeportE�s thread, I�ll not turn this into an infinite circle of flames or get this thread closed, so I�ll just quote the important thing here, and this time PLEASE READ IT and try to apply for next posts:

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Originally posted by The Master Just to make this forum more comfortable for all: please stop flaming Tiesto threads, or if you disagree with something, please express your opinion without flaming the others, and more important, without false arguments.

innovative would have to be gabriel and dredsen... they actually remix songs and make them sound good.

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Originally posted by The Master You know DuMonde TrAnCeR? just by watching the picture on your signature, one can realize you�re one of that persons impossible to convince.

that is a sign of my dissatisfaction that one dj gets 6 hours on such a big event. i think no DJ should get 6 hours. i think half of the time they play filler tracks and are not to their best. but no you wouldnt undertsand that because you are too willing to jump the gun and get all offended by the truth.

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I�ve said all I had to say so I�m not willing to explain it to you again, maybe if you just read it again as an impartial person you would understand; and for some respect to TimeportE�s thread, I�ll not turn this into an infinite circle of flames or get this thread closed, so I�ll just quote the important thing here, and this time PLEASE READ IT and try to apply for next posts:

unintelligent repsonses = flames, so why reply like that? i gave your perfect reason for my comments, yet you still dont get it, and continue with the same replies which explain nothing and is based on your opinion that you think im lier, which is derived wrong your incesant lvoe for tiesto which blinds you for the truth, even i admit when my DJs play a bad set or when ones i dont lie kplay well, and my friend every set of tiesto' i have heard in the past 6 months, with the exception of NEC, has been terrible (althought the mixing in NEC set was very poor indeed)

now are you gonna continue replying with not point whasoever to drag this on, or contribute sumthing constructive to the thread liek i have tried to do in my responses?

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