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Originally posted by EddieZilker So buck up. I think you're probably better off than you think you are. Of course, you're not actually going to realize that until you start seeing better results.

I think things are fine now. I'm in a better position now than I ever was as a teenager. This is my point. I'm 22. Why the fuck would anyone start being nostalgic at 22? If your childhood was the peak of your life, what's the point?

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Originally posted by saymyname Because you have no happy memories from childhood and take no joy from life means that you conspire to dismiss any form of childlike happiness in adults as pathetic?

I have plenty of happy memories from childhood. I enjoy thinking of good moments in my life but I don't wallow in the past to provide happiness. The time for nostalgia is at the end of your life when things are drawing to a close. If you're 22 years old and you're already getting misty eyed about being 6 years old then you're wasting your life.

Come on, Jack, you're such a downer. It's Toy Story, it's a classic, let people get excited without calling them idiots.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Come on, Jack, you're such a downer. It's Toy Story, it's a classic, let people get excited without calling them idiots.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm sure the film itself will be perfectly charming, with witty postmodern references for the parents and reliable character-driven storytelling to delight the kids. But nostalgic twenty-somethings are a truly pathetic lifeform.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think things are fine now. I'm in a better position now than I ever was as a teenager. This is my point. I'm 22. Why the fuck would anyone start being nostalgic at 22? If your childhood was the peak of your life, what's the point? I have plenty of happy memories from childhood. I enjoy thinking of good moments in my life but I don't wallow in the past to provide happiness. The time for nostalgia is at the end of your life when things are drawing to a close. If you're 22 years old and you're already getting misty eyed about being 6 years old then you're wasting your life.

Nobody has said a word about "wallow[ing] in the past to provide happiness" or one's "chilhood [being] the peak of [one's] life". And even if someone did, so fucking what? It's a natural aspect of the human condition to remember things that were pleasant and hold them in high esteem. The fact that you don't do so doesn't make you better or worse.

Get off your high horse and fuck off.

Not sure why there wasn't a midnight showing last night or my friend lied to me

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J The time for nostalgia is at the end of your life when things are drawing to a close. If you're 22 years old and you're already getting misty eyed about being 6 years old then you're wasting your life.

Bullshit. You can have nostalgia at any point in your in your life - I certainly know I've been through so many stages in my life (and I'm not that much older than you) that you can be retrospective and even nostalgic about it. I miss certain things from my teenage and even kid years - doesn't mean I long to be back there, just some nostalgia for a different time or even place.

And yes, TS3 is going to be a damn good film from what I've seen.

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Originally posted by woscar Nobody has said a word about "wallow[ing] in the past to provide happiness" or one's "chilhood [being] the peak of [one's] life".

I did. Because, believe it or not, I know a lot of nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about children's cartoons from the early 90s. It's not the first time Maige has acted like this. Back in his Akridot incarnation he made a useless thread about kids today "not getting" what it was like to be young in the early 90s. Ludicrous behaviour. Anyone getting angry at me is clearly feeling more than a pang of self-recognition.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J But nostalgic twenty-somethings are a truly pathetic lifeform.

I'd prefer them over bitter twenty-somethings any day.

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Originally posted by Lira You've never watched a film by Beat Kitano, have you?

Wut? Takeshi's Castle is the only thing in existance that is more uplifting than ASOT!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I did. Because, believe it or not, I know a lot of nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about children's cartoons from the early 90s.

What's your stance on nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about early 90s Trance or late 90s Progressive?

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Originally posted by Meat187 Takeshi's Castle

So. Fucking. Win.

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Originally posted by woscar What's your stance on nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about early 90s Trance or late 90s Progressive?

I've devoted a string of mixes to the task of stopping them whining about how things used to be better.

Just saw it in the theatre, and holy shit it was good. I can't possibly think of any way that Pixar will top this, but I'm sure they will surprise us.

edit: plus the short film in the beginning was better than whole movies that some studios put out

Off to it right now.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I've devoted a string of mixes to the task of stopping them whining about how things used to be better.

But those mixes prove things WERE far better back then

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Originally posted by DJ RANN But those mixes prove things WERE far better back then

Those mixes proved what was far better back then and, as far as I'm concerned, still prove, even by today's standards, the value in the work that was put into each song. But let's not confuse assessing value with nostalgia. They're two completely different things. I have an affinity for Apocalypse Now. I grew up with it, in my childhood. The things I currently appreciate about the movie, however, differ vastly from why I liked watching it as a child.

EDITED to clarify my point.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think things are fine now. I'm in a better position now than I ever was as a teenager. This is my point. I'm 22. Why the fuck would anyone start being nostalgic at 22? If your childhood was the peak of your life, what's the point? I have plenty of happy memories from childhood. I enjoy thinking of good moments in my life but I don't wallow in the past to provide happiness. The time for nostalgia is at the end of your life when things are drawing to a close. If you're 22 years old and you're already getting misty eyed about being 6 years old then you're wasting your life.

I don't see that nostalgia inherently connotes a wallowing in the past as a means of providing happiness in the present, or idealizing it in such a way that it becomes the retrospective climax of their life experiences (though I'm not denying that this is certainly an incarnation of it). I'm fairly confident that most commonly understand and experience nostalgia in precisely the way you described: the deriving of a sense of happiness from reflecting on a period of time that itself considered to be pleasurable, in an at least selective capacity, if not in an all-inclusive one. With that in mind, there's nothing problematic or developmentally immature with being nostalgic in your twenties, for by your twenties, you've undergone an extended period of time in your life that has since come to an end, even if your life isn't drawing to a close.

The annoyances I find with it (which are more consistent with the criticisms you're leveraging) are when people reminisce over their youth with an overblown sense of passion and zeal that would seem to suggest they were at the end of their lives, or have at least cleared the peak of it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Because, believe it or not, I know a lot of nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about children's cartoons from the early 90s.

The more obnoxious nostalgic twenty-somethings seem to have slowly developed an equally obnoxious culture of nostalgia around themselves, and depending upon which variety of them you are, owning one of these in your room or on a shirt is nearly mandatory:



Not a 90's cartoon, I realize, though still aligned with my point.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN But those mixes prove things WERE far better back then

I can't decide if you're saying "Your mixes suck!" or if you mistakenly think the Epic House mixes are the only things I've ever done. Although those weren't nostalgia mixes as such, because I was getting into the style for the first time and wanted to share it in a "This is some forgotten history" kind of way.

I do think that people obsessed over how past music is better, whether they actually remember it or not, is a slightly different mutation of the same mindset I'm railing against, and isn't particularly relevant to this thread. Saying I'm nostalgically obsessed with 90s prog is about as accurate as Existo saying woscar likes "minimal hipster shit".

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost The annoyances I find with it (which are more consistent with the criticisms you're leveraging) are when people reminisce over their youth with an overblown sense of passion and zeal that would seem to suggest they were at the end of their lives, or have at least cleared the peak of it. The more obnoxious nostalgic twenty-somethings seem to have slowly developed an equally obnoxious culture of nostalgia around themselves, and depending upon which variety of them you are, owning one of these in your room or on a shirt is nearly mandatory

I think when you have twenty-somethings piling into cinemas to watch a children's film because the original came out when they were six is when you've reached that point. That isn't just fondly thinking about your past, as everyone does, that's actively reliving it. You're exactly right about this "cult of nostalgia". I'm fed up of going to parties and inevitably the conversation will turn to old cartoons or old kids' films. People who download entire series' of Sabrina The Teenage Witch, or the 90s cartoon incarnation of X-Men, or other such bollocks.

Absolutely adorable. I came out with a huge smile on my face and I almost cried during, how much more pathetic can I get?

I give it a B+

Like Bill Marr said: "This movie better give me a Buss and a Woody"

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu Like Bill Marr said: "This movie better give me a Buss and a Woody"

And what did Bill Maher have to say?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles And what did Bill Maher have to say?

Exactly what I just quoted him as saying, Yessssss...I misspelt his name. Go enjoy your cake now.

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost The more obnoxious nostalgic twenty-somethings seem to have slowly developed an equally obnoxious culture of nostalgia around themselves, and depending upon which variety of them you are, owning one of these in your room or on a shirt is nearly mandatory: http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/...Lost/poster.jpg

Is that actually a nostalgia trip, though? I thought it was more like, "Haha, hey look, it's David Bowie in a cheesy '80s movie!" Seems to me less like genuine nostalgia than camp appreciation. Nostalgia is about looking back to things that you long to live through again, or yearning for lost feelings, not really poking fun at bits of your childhood.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is that actually a nostalgia trip, though? I thought it was more like, "Haha, hey look, it's David Bowie in a cheesy '80s movie!" Seems to me less like genuine nostalgia than camp appreciation. Nostalgia is about looking back to things that you long to live through again, or yearning for lost feelings, not really poking fun at bits of your childhood.

I was just going after his segmant called "New Rules"

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