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lol, is that meant to be an answer?

I'm no conspiracy nut by any means.... but I will say that maybe iTranscendence isn't as far out in space with his thinking as some of you are making it seem. First, it's already been proven that Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar deliberately lied about the engineering experts backing him on the moratorium (which was his justification), and this is why the Federal judge blocked it. Salazar modified the reports after the drilling experts signed them.

Now, tell me if this information doesn't at least make you raise an eyebrow:

From Gary Jackson:

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I mean how hard is this one to put together? You�ve got... George Soros, the self proclaimed �owner of the democrat party� purchasing controlling interest in Brazilian oil giant Petrobas 3 days before Barack Obama �loans� the country of Brazil $10 billion, which is then given to... wait for it... Petrobas.

As pointed out in an Investors Business Daily editorial yesterday: If the moratorium stands and energy prices rise, the only ones to profit will be foreign-owned companies such as Petrobras and investors such as George Soros, who has an investment in the oil giant in the neighborhood of $900 million. Yes, the same George Soros who also is a major investor in the Democratic Party and President Obama's 2008 campaign.

Soros would love to see domestic offshore drilling shut down and those three dozen deep-water rigs sitting idle shipped off to the coast of Brazil. He has a huge investment in both Petrobras and the Democrats. He expects a return on all his investments. Article continuted...

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Now I�m not going to suggest that Obama or Soros, or anyone else had anything to do with the BP oil spill in the Gulf. It was a tragic accident, brought on by massive incompetence from all involved, including the government inspectors. With that said, this plays right into the Obama regime�s hands. Obama... was already looking at ways to shut down oil production nationwide. This oil spill just made it easy as pie. Of course, Obama is a multi-tasker, so not only is he using the BP oil spill to help Soros make billions, he�s also using it to try and pass massive �climate change� legislation, that will include a draconian cap and tax scheme, which will, as Obama has often said, make our energy prices �necessarily skyrocket.� Part of the cap and tax scenario includes a �carbon credit� trading scheme. In essence, folks will be arbitrarily given so many �carbon credits� but if they exceed the imaginary (and arbitrary) limits of allowed �pollution� they will have to either shut their activities down, or purchase �carbon credits� from those who haven�t reached their limits. This is where Obama and Co. really look to clean up (pardon the pun). The Chicago Climate Exchange, where all of these �carbon credits� will be traded, was funded by Obama, during his time on the board of a far left Joyce Foundation. The Chicago Climate Exchange will make money off of each transaction. Obama, Al Gore, Maurice Strong, and Goldman Sachs are all owners of the Chicago Climate Exchange.

So how is BP involved and what do they get out of this, as asked by someone in here? Other than energy secretary Stephen Chu being in bed with BP already by accepting $500 billion in 2007 for his Cal-Berkley laboratory to "save the world" (Chu's words)... and Steven Koonin, Chu's Undersecretary for Science at Department of Energy being a former BP executive? Well, check this out:

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BP was a founding member of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP), a lobby dedicated to passing a cap-and-trade bill. As the nation�s largest producer of natural gas, BP saw many ways to profit from climate legislation, notably by persuading Congress to provide subsidies to coal-fired power plants that switched to gas. In February, BP quit USCAP without giving much of a reason beyond saying the company could lobby more effectively on its own than in a coalition that is increasingly dominated by power companies. They made out particularly well in the House�s climate bill, while natural gas producers suffered. But two months later, BP signed off on Kerry�s Senate climate bill, which was hardly a capitalist concoction. One provision BP explicitly backed, according to Congressional Quarterly and other media reports: a higher gas tax. The money would be earmarked for building more highways, thus inducing more driving and more gasoline consumption. Elsewhere in the green arena, BP has lobbied for and profited from subsidies for biofuels and solar energy, two products that cannot break even without government support. Lobbying records show the company backing solar subsidies including federal funding for solar research. The U.S. Export-Import Bank, a federal agency, is currently financing a BP solar energy project in Argentina. BP has more Democratic lobbyists than Republicans. It employs the Podesta Group, co-founded by John Podesta, Obama�s transition director and confidant. Other BP troops on K Street include Michael Berman, a former top aide to Vice President Walter Mondale; Steven Champlin, former executive director of the House Democratic Caucus; and Matthew LaRocco, who worked in Bill Clinton�s Interior Department and whose father was a Democratic congressman. Former Republican staffers, such as Reagan alumnus Ken Duberstein, also lobby for BP, but there�s no truth to Democratic portrayals of the oil company as an arm of the GOP.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...l-95942659.html


We now know that BP informed the Office of Mineral Managment that there were problems with the well back in mid-February. Then a few weeks before the disaster, BP's CEO dumps 1/3 of his shares and Halliburton buys the world's largest oil disaster service company (Boots & Coots)?

And, get this: much of Obama's personal wealth is in Vanguard investment funds... who "coincidentally" was the largest seller of BP shares a few weeks before the explosion. Vanguard's heaviest investment is in Exxon Mobil, who is already being rumored to buy out BP and all their assets for a fraction of their worth. Godman Sachs has already been retained to help facilitate such a deal. This is all incestuous as fuck, and stinks to high heaven.

iTranscendence may not be as "Glenn Beck-ish" as you make him out to be.

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Originally posted by The17sss iTranscendence may not be as "Glenn Beck-ish" as you make him out to be.

Boy howdy but you are!

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Boy howdy but you are!

Credibility... check into it.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Fuck it, nuke the south too. People there are too stupid for their own good. Why did we not let them be their own country in the civil war? Fucking useless lot that contribute nothing and generally are what make the US look the worst. Gas the fuckheads.

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Originally posted by The17sss Credibility... check into it.

Not quite sure what you are getting at there...

and yet again more politics . . .

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Who's Eddie zellers and who's post might he back up?

you and thread starters

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Not quite sure what you are getting at there...

I'm saying, one has to take your proclimations with a grain of salt, considering the myriad lunatic-fringe type statements you make.... and to not recognize that means your head is in the sand.

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Originally posted by The17sss I'm saying, one has to take your proclimations with a grain of salt, considering the myriad lunatic-fringe type statements you make.

I am pretty sure the difference between opinion and any other sort of thought is lost on you....

...i'll just leave this here

http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/BP...false-flag.aspx (take with grain of salt)

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a month or so later she comes to the stand with the truth..check... "they're not cleaning it up, they're covering it up" mad world madness in a cup mad MeNNNNN... ... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...icle7146177.ece quote: BP 'manipulating search results' on Google following oil spill BP is being accused of trying to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo, as it attempts to salvage its battered image following the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico.

i'm at a loss for words...WHAT THE FUCK GUYS? the seriousness of this situation is beyond belief IF any of what is presented holds any truth...it's unbelievable this is unbelievable it doesn't phase me that many are hesitant when it comes to thoroughly analyzing this predicament because the actions which are being taken by the powers at hand is simply UNBELIEVABLE ... i wholeheartedly hope this is all just a joke and the intelligence provided by the sources will not cross over from false to FACT, or fact to be portrayed as FALSE

alright i'm outy to enjoy the weather with some spiritual schmokaay!

Yea... Apparently its raining oil there too.

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Originally posted by The17sss iTranscendence may not be as "Glenn Beck-ish" as you make him out to be.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn-beck-for-dummies.html

"Beck is a fake revolutionary who has hijacked the freedom movement and is being used to lead conservatives and libertarians down the rabbit hole."

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Originally posted by iTranscendence http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn-beck-for-dummies.html "Beck is a fake revolutionary who has hijacked the freedom movement and is being used to lead conservatives and libertarians down the rabbit hole."

dude... that's all I get after being your only defender?

Just a clarification of my disdain for him.

brilliant

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Originally posted by The17sss I'm no conspiracy nut by any means.... but I will say that maybe iTranscendence isn't as far out in space with his thinking as some of you are making it seem. First, it's already been proven that Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar deliberately lied about the engineering experts backing him on the moratorium (which was his justification), and this is why the Federal judge blocked it. Salazar modified the reports after the drilling experts signed them. Now, tell me if this information doesn't at least make you raise an eyebrow: From Gary Jackson: As pointed out in an Investors Business Daily editorial yesterday: If the moratorium stands and energy prices rise, the only ones to profit will be foreign-owned companies such as Petrobras and investors such as George Soros, who has an investment in the oil giant in the neighborhood of $900 million. Yes, the same George Soros who also is a major investor in the Democratic Party and President Obama's 2008 campaign. Soros would love to see domestic offshore drilling shut down and those three dozen deep-water rigs sitting idle shipped off to the coast of Brazil. He has a huge investment in both Petrobras and the Democrats. He expects a return on all his investments. Article continuted... So how is BP involved and what do they get out of this, as asked by someone in here? Other than energy secretary Stephen Chu being in bed with BP already by accepting $500 billion in 2007 for his Cal-Berkley laboratory to "save the world" (Chu's words)... and Steven Koonin, Chu's Undersecretary for Science at Department of Energy being a former BP executive? Well, check this out: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...l-95942659.html We now know that BP informed the Office of Mineral Managment that there were problems with the well back in mid-February. Then a few weeks before the disaster, BP's CEO dumps 1/3 of his shares and Halliburton buys the world's largest oil disaster service company (Boots & Coots)? And, get this: much of Obama's personal wealth is in Vanguard investment funds... who "coincidentally" was the largest seller of BP shares a few weeks before the explosion. Vanguard's heaviest investment is in Exxon Mobil, who is already being rumored to buy out BP and all their assets for a fraction of their worth. Godman Sachs has already been retained to help facilitate such a deal. This is all incestuous as fuck, and stinks to high heaven. iTranscendence may not be as "Glenn Beck-ish" as you make him out to be.

lol, did you miss the part about the moratorium already being quashed by the court?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2424963420100624

you also seem to be missing the point; nobody is going to deny that those at the pointy end of BP might have been shedding risk as they were privvy to advanced knowledge of the problem(s); we're denying that BP deliberately caused the disaster. 2 very different propositions.

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Originally posted by The17sss From Gary Jackson: petrobas

lol petrobas. it's like some sort of fucked up amalgamation of denys and bassel.

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Originally posted by woscar

If you were satisfied with the abnormality of you dick, would you still come on here and bash the irrelevant?

Biches.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue lol petrobas. it's like some sort of fucked up amalgamation of denys and bassel.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nobody is going to deny that those at the pointy end of BP might have been shedding risk as they were privvy to advanced knowledge of the problem(s); we're denying that BP deliberately caused the disaster. 2 very different propositions.

Thats just a notch down from being just as bad as deliberately causing it. I don't know enough about this to know who is right but whenever there is a lot of money involved there is always an evil bastard lurking.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, did you miss the part about the moratorium already being quashed by the court? http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2424963420100624 you also seem to be missing the point; nobody is going to deny that those at the pointy end of BP might have been shedding risk as they were privvy to advanced knowledge of the problem(s); we're denying that BP deliberately caused the disaster. 2 very different propositions.

yeah i know about the judge's ruling, but Ken Salazar immediately made another attempt and he's back at work trying for a 3rd. I'm definitely not suggesting purposeful sabotage. It's the whole "you never want to let a crisis go to waste" thing that bothers me, and the fact that BP, Obama, Gore, et. al. will financially benefit massively from the legislation they're using the spill to try and push. Fuck the legislation- we have 2000 skimmers and are only using 20! Why?

Plus the obvious George Soros connection infuriates me... dude what would the Left be doing if Bush were president, and he lent $10 billion to Brazil to drill for oil, 3 days after his largest benefactor bought controlling interest in the drilling company receiving the funds? Impeachment hearings would be underway already- but today we hear silence from the "watchdog" media.

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Originally posted by The17sss ... dude what would the Left be doing if Bush were president, and he lent $10 billion to Brazil to drill for oil, 3 days after his largest benefactor bought controlling interest in the drilling company receiving the funds? Impeachment hearings would be underway already- but today we hear silence from the "watchdog" media.

The same thing they did when the same sort of stuff was said about the 9/11 conspiracy. Nothing.

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