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Posted by music2dance2 on Jul-10-2010 20:37:

I want to know what SHM guys think of this pile of dog shit


Posted by Stealth on Jul-10-2010 20:59:


Posted by rulzz on Jul-11-2010 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
How much does a #1 hit on beatport worth for the artist anyways? 200$ ??


speculative figures range from 20-40K sales per #1 track. beatport usually takes at least 30% (Depending on label and agreement of course, in most cases %50) distributor takes remainder then this trickles down to label and then to artist. so yeah a $200 might be a low ball estimate but reflects industry well. Again some (few bigger ones) labels deal with beatport directly thus shaving distro fees.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-11-2010 02:58:

But that doesn't include the other streams of revenue: compilations, TV licensing, radio royalties and performance fees. This will actually make you waaay more money that single or album sales.

Moby's Porcelain for instance, secured $18 million in international tv commercial fees before the album was even released.


Posted by Terrence Parker on Jul-12-2010 11:25:

They are featured in this months FM:


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-12-2010 12:29:

quote:
all the different instruments plays different melodies

where?
quote:
the base plays some notes, and then the guitar plays some other notes

this guy must be a genius.

the track doesnt even have a guitar as far as i know. what an asshole


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-12-2010 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by 19503
where?

this guy must be a genius.

the track doesnt even have a guitar as far as i know. what an asshole


"You have the track and then the vocals and you have to separate them, you know, not on the same output."

Oh! Thank you for sharing these closely guarded secrets with us.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-12-2010 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Terrence Parker
They are featured in this months FM:



Fuck me. The quotes are just pure comedy. I can't believe they actually said those things. It's like spinal tap for DJ's.

"You have the track and then the vocals and you have to separate them, you know, not on the same output."

Absolute genius. And as pointed out there's not fucking guitar in the track anyway!

I love this bullshit. I've worked with the guys at metropolis (who are serious pros) and here in LA I've done a few sessions at the studio with some heavyweight/famous EDM producers and not one of them could properly use the desk in front of them. You can see by the way people act whether they're comfortable with the equipment and these guys are squirming, hard.

They loooooove having their photos or video taken in front of SLL's or Euphonix desks but when you ask them to use it they suddenly get all shy

I mean look at that video - three guys in front of a what looks to be at least a 196 channel mixing desk and they're all huddled around a single macbook. Add the obligatory, "push a button pose" (and the button he's pushing there is just the monitor select switch as told to him by the house engineer) and viola, instant studio cred. The more I watch it the more I can see how nervous they are of being in a studio.

I think anyone that has ever spent time in a pro studio environment can spot them faking it - I mean, at least get some automation going and pretend to fiddle with the eq.

what a bunch of cocks.


Posted by sot on Jul-12-2010 18:23:

the amount of arrogance these 3 have is just appalling

'we run shit'

my ass.

get over yourself.

you guys should see the steve angello fm video from a few years back, it takes him 10 minutes or so to quantize a simple whole note string section, it's pretty pathetic, amazed he made it so far by being such a tool and a moron. proves how important it is to create a brand for yourself to make it or break it in the music world.


Posted by music2dance2 on Jul-12-2010 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN

I love this bullshit. I've worked with the guys at metropolis (who are serious pros) and here in LA I've done a few sessions at the studio with some heavyweight/famous EDM producers and not one of them could properly use the desk in front of them. You can see by the way people act whether they're comfortable with the equipment and these guys are squirming, hard.

They loooooove having their photos or video taken in front of SLL's or Euphonix desks but when you ask them to use it they suddenly get all shy

I mean look at that video - three guys in front of a what looks to be at least a 196 channel mixing desk and they're all huddled around a single macbook. Add the obligatory, "push a button pose" (and the button he's pushing there is just the monitor select switch as told to him by the house engineer) and viola, instant studio cred. The more I watch it the more I can see how nervous they are of being in a studio.

I think anyone that has ever spent time in a pro studio environment can spot them faking it - I mean, at least get some automation going and pretend to fiddle with the eq.

what a bunch of cocks.


I was going to point that same thing out when I 1st saw they vid. They are in a huge studio yet they are huddled around a mac on logic. It doesnt look good. As steve says they are only there for the compressor lol.

That said I dont hate these guys, but can understand how people can.


Posted by sako487 on Jul-12-2010 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Terrence Parker
They are featured in this months FM:



Wtf did I just watch


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-12-2010 21:47:

im so embarrassed by this u wont even know, my world falls apart. i cant produce, listen or even be associated with edm after this. this might be my final post, im not sure i ever can forgive these guys.

(puts on Tool - Lateralus album to calm down).


Posted by Terrence Parker on Jul-12-2010 22:06:

I think it's not a secret that you don't need to be a musical genius in todays EDM scene to become famous.
Its all about the right timing, the right connections and some good marketing.
I am a little bit surprised about some comments though.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Jul-13-2010 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by sako487


ill just leave this here


Ummm wow, this is a real track:

http://itunes.apple.com/de/album/ca...ent/id374176601 (Song 10 for me)


Posted by Rebel Brown on Jul-13-2010 16:23:

I'm subscribed to FM and watched the interview on the DVD this morning, as stated they are only in the studio for the compressor on the desk and to add the vocal to the track, 196 channels on the desk and they're using 6 of them FFS.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-13-2010 16:28:

did they fly over to London, rented a bigass studio to use a compressor on a track which is already compressed to death just to add some vocals to it? rofl. i am amazed. they cant be right in their head.


Posted by Beatflux on Jul-13-2010 16:41:

Pretty sick track. The intro is killer. There is a lot of hate and jealousy in this thread.


Posted by Viber on Jul-13-2010 17:44:

You know Steve Angello is going to visit this thread and kick all of your asses right?


Posted by owien on Jul-13-2010 18:14:

hahahah yeah no doubt its a clsssic example of knowing what the people want to dance to rather then the home crowd.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-13-2010 18:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
Pretty sick track. The intro is killer. There is a lot of hate and jealousy in this thread.


Did it make you pop your collar

And yes, they rented a big studio so they could look like they don't just sit there in front of a mac book and tell their engineer "that guitar needs to sound more purple". Don't forget folks "that why they run this shit"

I swear to god it exactly reminds me of a session I did with XXXXXXXXX where he literally rented to the studio (with the 246 channel desk and several protools rigs) so we could record one, 1 minute, instrument part and then spent the rest of the 5 hour session doing obligatory "down the faders" shots and various other poses to include on their website to make them look like a real producer.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-13-2010 19:11:

WTF is with Future Music running that? It's promo pablum.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Jul-13-2010 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
WTF is with Future Music running that? It's promo pablum.


uhh lol. they're a business trying to sell a magazine?

your question reminds me of a radio talk show i was listening to on my way to work the other day.

a guy calls up complaining about corporate america and goes "I'LL TELL YA WHERE THESE CORPORATIONS WENT WRONG THEY SPEND ALL THIS ADVERTISING MONEY TRYING TO SELL THEIR STUFF. COME ON 5 MILLION FOR A SUPER BOWL AD THAT'S A JOKE!"

my god, that guy called into a radio host who's ENTIRE INCOME is based upon his ad sales on his show. The radio host's answer was priceless he was like "well no scott i do think those ad's work"

i rarely laugh driving to my job. i fuckin nearly spit out my coffee on this one


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-13-2010 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
uhh lol. they're a business trying to sell a magazine?

your question reminds me of a radio talk show i was listening to on my way to work the other day.

a guy calls up complaining about corporate america and goes "I'LL TELL YA WHERE THESE CORPORATIONS WENT WRONG THEY SPEND ALL THIS ADVERTISING MONEY TRYING TO SELL THEIR STUFF. COME ON 5 MILLION FOR A SUPER BOWL AD THAT'S A JOKE!"

my god, that guy called into a radio host who's ENTIRE INCOME is based upon his ad sales on his show. The radio host's answer was priceless he was like "well no scott i do think those ad's work"

i rarely laugh driving to my job. i fuckin nearly spit out my coffee on this one


Point taken. The fact remains that a magazine marketing itself as an industry technical periodical is sticking its name on something more fit for a fan magazine. Yeah - they're trying to sell magazines but a little editorial integrity might be called for. I haven't read FM in a while but when I did read it, the articles seemed to have a little more depth and a little less fluff. That video was scripted cross-promotional ad copy marketed as a peek at purportedly legitimate journalism - a feature article of the magazine. The video's content, however, was an effective demonstration of how little substance one could count on.

So, taking your assertion at face value - that they're trying to sell magazines - they certainly are. The target market must be self-deluded, feeble-minded morons who would like to make music but will only ever manage to mangle a monophonic version of "three-blind-mice".


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-13-2010 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
Pretty sick track. The intro is killer. There is a lot of hate and jealousy in this thread.


lol are u serious?

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
You know Steve Angello is going to visit this thread and kick all of your asses right?


he´s tried before, and ran away with his tail between his legs. do a search and u might get a lol, great threads.


Posted by Viber on Jul-13-2010 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by 19503
he´s tried before, and ran away with his tail between his legs. do a search and u might get a lol, great threads.


Yea i remember, some beef with Haak right? "run along little child, i run major business"

I think he murdered Haak though...i wonder: what do Swedish mobsters do with the body after they clip someone?


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