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This was my first time @ Sunnyside and I thought the place was awesome!!! I think people should host more day time parties at this venue.

I wish I would have been able to stay for the Martinez Brothers set. I promised to drive my friend�s car back to my condo when we all decided to go. We had a long day leading up to the party, plus all the traffic to get to the venue. I believe I we left 5 mins after the Martinez Brothers got on�..

I completely expected the night to play out as it did. I�ve seen this done hundreds of time people.

Overall I had a ton of fun with my friends, the venue and all the hot ladies

I guess I should add it took me 2 hours to get to the venue on Lakeshore (did not help people moods walking in). Also I arrived at 10 pm.

Where are the promotors reply?

Anyone wanna make a bet they wont make one? Oooh that's a challenge!

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Originally posted by Dior Homme So who was more interested in the art found alongside the walls than the martinez brothers?

I loved the art. Took a few pics.

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good tunes but WTF was that with the boys coming on way after 12? I mean fuck, I didn't pay 25 bucks to see a bunch of people I've never heard of before spin wtf was the point of telling us to come early, when the headliners started at a regular time? friends were leaving left and right, some of them tired of waiting, the others pissed at low music level I'm not sure if I'll be back for any of these parties again.. not sure what else to add - waiting was the biggest party buzzkill ever - having known that this would would be the case, we would have just went to FW right away

I almost never reply to a review of one of my events (especially when they are negative reviews, I learned that lesson long ago...) however, I will attempt to explain why certain decisions were made for this event, the biggest one being the request for people to arrive early and not posting set times. There's also the decision to leave our advertising the same as it was for the original start time of 2pm, most notably, this statement, "The Martinez Brothers are playing an early set, ARRIVE EARLY!"

I'll do this point by point so i don't start to ramble...a bad habit of mine.

Boogie Inc. 5 Year Anniversary w/ The Martinez Brothers @ Sunnyside.

- Boogie Inc. events for the most part are deep and soulful house music events. I still always post my events on Tranceaddict event though the majority of people on this board are not huge fans of this style of music. However, once in a while there are headliners and out of town special guests that I book for my events that cater to a much wider audience, The Martinez Brothers being a perfect example of this.

- Most of the people on this board were coming to see TMB and not any of the other DJs on the bill, or as one of you has described, "a bunch of unknown locals". Perhaps they are unknown locals in your cirlces, but trust me when I say that they are the creme of the crop in deep house circles. As your friends we're "leaving left and right" there was well over 1000 people absolutely loving the music with their hands in the air...just as you would if it were your favorite local at a techno or trance event.

- Sunnyside events must end at 3am sharp or we face heavy fines.

- When I originally had this event planned for a 2pm start time, I was able to give the talent bookings for this event some variety and book outside deep house tastes so that everyone attending, not just the deep house crowd, would have something to listen to and dance to before The Marintez Brothers went on.

- Monkey wrench in my plans #1 - As I mentioned above, I planned the event according to the 2pm start time and not until AFTER i had finished booking all the DJs did I find out that the owners of Sunnyside double booked the venue for the daytime and there was a corporate event that caused us to get bumped. This resulted in completely screwing up my original musical programming. I ended up having to axe a few DJs from the bill and try to work out set times that still kind of made sense for the DJs that I was able to keep...

- We tried to decorate the pavilion and do a little bit extra for this event with the LED lighting panels in the booth and wraps on the trees etc... with the 8pm start it was a major challenge getting all the decor, sound and lighting set up in only three hours but I think we pulled it off.

- For the people complaining about the sound... that is pretty much as loud as we can get away with at Sunnyside without getting shut down by the police. It something that has always really bothered me about Sunnyside, and if I could go all out and put together a massive sound system like I usually do when I have the luxury of building a custom system, I would... but I can't We do our absolute best with sound at Sunnyside (I've heard MUCH worse at outdoor venues elsewhere...)

- Monkey wrench in my plans #2 - Shortly after I got the first set of bad news about the daytime element of this event getting axed, I also found out that this was the weekend the Gardiner Expressway was getting shut down! Most people, including myself, don't really pay super close attention to highway closures a month in advance of the date posted. However, I had to take note of this because the detour route for the highway closures in and out of the city is the Lakeshore, where Sunnyside is located.

- I had to make a decision. Advertise that the Gardiner Expressway shut down on the night of our event, OR, simply, encourage people to arrive early. I have a feeling that if I chose option #1 it would have had a very negative effect on ticket sales and my hopes for a successful Anniversary event. Our budget for this party was through the roof and all things considered, we had to find a way to save the party. We really did do our best to make this night work despite the shitty hand that we were dealt.

- If I advertised that TMB were playing from 12:30am - 3am, many people would plan to arrive around that time to catch the headliners only. However, with the highway closures (that most people find out about at the last minute) would have caused a hell of a lot of people who were planning to arrive at midnight or 12:30am, to arrive much later because of the severe delays, therefore resulting in people completely missing the event all together.

- We decided that the best way to approach the promtion of this event was to just encourage people to arrive early.

I would like to sincerely apologize to anyone whose plans for the night got screwed up because of the information that we put out there prior to this event. In the end, i think it still turned out to be a great, well attended party and I want to thank you all for coming.

We have another event coming up on Labour Day Long Weekend, Sunday, September 5th, with another DJ that appeals to a wide audience, Dennis Ferrer. We will be posting set times and running our promo normally without being vague or weird about anything. So far, other than the air show during the day, there isn't anything that is going to get in the way of our plans for that night. After all we went through at this last event, I sure as hell hope nothing else comes up! I can't go through this shit again!

Again, thanks to all that came out. I hope to see you all again.

Pat Boogie.

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Originally posted by patboogie Again, thanks to all that came out. I hope to see you all again. Pat Boogie.

Thanks for the update. In future notifications, please also include details about parking in the area. We had the most difficult time finding a parking spot because after reading all the different signage in the adjacent parking....it seemed that parking there past 12am is a no go....

re: sound, it was perfect....up until TMB

um, I had an amazing time at this party!
no need to apologize! lol
martinez bros were even better than last time at the docks!

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Originally posted by patboogie - Most of the people on this board were coming to see TMB and not any of the other DJs on the bill, or as one of you has described, "a bunch of unknown locals". Perhaps they are unknown locals in your cirlces, but trust me when I say that they are the creme of the crop in deep house circles. As your friends we're "leaving left and right" there was well over 1000 people absolutely loving the music with their hands in the air...just as you would if it were your favorite local at a techno or trance event.

oh please don't give that...first of all, 1000 people? as much as it was busy on Saturday, I have hard time believing that is the capacity of that place - the majority of people were directly in front of the Dj booth, all the way down to the fountain, while the sides has people chilling/sitting down.. second of all - like we already stated (and I'm glad I'm not alone with that) - we came there for TMB only... openers were a nice treat, for the most part, but that's about it (IMO)

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- Monkey wrench in my plans #1 - As I mentioned above, I planned the event according to the 2pm start time and not until AFTER i had finished booking all the DJs did I find out that the owners of Sunnyside double booked the venue for the daytime and there was a corporate event that caused us to get bumped. This resulted in completely screwing up my original musical programming. I ended up having to axe a few DJs from the bill and try to work out set times that still kind of made sense for the DJs that I was able to keep...

what happened with giving everyone a proper heads up about the switch of the time? I believe that wasn't posted anywhere nor I remember receiving any FB updates about the later start.. did you just change the time on FB event and let the rest of us figure that one out?

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- Monkey wrench in my plans #2 - Shortly after I got the first set of bad news about the daytime element of this event getting axed, I also found out that this was the weekend the Gardiner Expressway was getting shut down! Most people, including myself, don't really pay super close attention to highway closures a month in advance of the date posted. However, I had to take note of this because the detour route for the highway closures in and out of the city is the Lakeshore, where Sunnyside is located. - I had to make a decision. Advertise that the Gardiner Expressway shut down on the night of our event, OR, simply, encourage people to arrive early. I have a feeling that if I chose option #1 it would have had a very negative effect on ticket sales and my hopes for a successful Anniversary event. Our budget for this party was through the roof and all things considered, we had to find a way to save the party. We really did do our best to make this night work despite the shitty hand that we were dealt. - If I advertised that TMB were playing from 12:30am - 3am, many people would plan to arrive around that time to catch the headliners only. However, with the highway closures (that most people find out about at the last minute) would have caused a hell of a lot of people who were planning to arrive at midnight or 12:30am, to arrive much later because of the severe delays, therefore resulting in people completely missing the event all together. - We decided that the best way to approach the promtion of this event was to just encourage people to arrive early.

I believe that the way you explain things now wasn't how it looked to everyone on Saturday - it was clearly advertised that we should be arriving early and NOT because of Gariner closures but because the Dj's are playing early! why wasn't this communicated to everyone on FB and on TA?

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I would like to sincerely apologize to anyone whose plans for the night got screwed up because of the information that we put out there prior to this event. In the end, i think it still turned out to be a great, well attended party and I want to thank you all for coming.

that's nice of you, hopefully next time you release all the information to the party-goers in advance, road closures or not!

otherwise I'll let others add anything I might have missed in my reply..

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Originally posted by charli um, I had an amazing time at this party! no need to apologize! lol martinez bros were even better than last time at the docks!

lol glad this party was all about you bud.

btw I really liked the bengal lights, that was a nice touch

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew oh please don't give that...first of all, 1000 people? as much as it was busy on Saturday, I have hard time believing that is the capacity of that place - the majority of people were directly in front of the Dj booth, all the way down to the fountain, while the sides has people chilling/sitting down.. second of all - like we already stated (and I'm glad I'm not alone with that) - we came there for TMB only... openers were a nice treat, for the most part, but that's about it (IMO) what happened with giving everyone a proper heads up about the switch of the time? I believe that wasn't posted anywhere nor I remember receiving any FB updates about the later start.. did you just change the time on FB event and let the rest of us figure that one out? I believe that the way you explain things now wasn't how it looked to everyone on Saturday - it was clearly advertised that we should be arriving early and NOT because of Gariner closures but because the Dj's are playing early! why wasn't this communicated to everyone on FB and on TA? that's nice of you, hopefully next time you release all the information to the party-goers in advance, road closures or not! otherwise I'll let others add anything I might have missed in my reply..

there was well over 1000 people at Sunnyside for this event... 1400+ for the entire night, ins and outs. 800 tickets were sold in advance + guest list.

I will admit, i could have done things differently for this event and I should have. Absolutely a lesson learned. It's tough reading the negative reviews... we really worked hard on this event.

Sorry again...

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Originally posted by patboogie there was well over 1000 people at Sunnyside for this event... 1400+ for the entire night, ins and outs. 800 tickets were sold in advance + guest list. I will admit, i could have done things differently for this event and I should have. Absolutely a lesson learned. It's tough reading the negative reviews... we really worked hard on this event. Sorry again...

thanks for listening and not getting uber defensive, like people usually do
best of luck with future events!

should have advertised set times in advance,

if people cant realize the gardener is closed then that is their problem... not the promoters....

you don't need to hand hold people and tell them when to come so you can maximize $ spent on drinks/etc .

you misled your clients and now have a black eye for future events....

if you posted that TMB were on at 12, and everyone showed up at 11:59, then that's the choice of the customer

being a promoter means satisfying your customer

not the other way around

1 luv

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Originally posted by bigdaddyluke should have advertised set times in advance, if people cant realize the gardener is closed then that is their problem... not the promoters.... you don't need to hand hold people and tell them when to come so you can maximize $ spent on drinks/etc . you misled your clients and now have a black eye for future events.... if you posted that TMB were on at 12, and everyone showed up at 11:59, then that's the choice of the customer being a promoter means satisfying your customer not the other way around 1 luv

agreed. like I said before... the decisions we made, albeit poor ones, were not made to deliberately sabatoge people's night. Quite the opposite in fact... (too bad they had the wrong outcome because our intentions were good)

For the record, we do not get a piece of the bar at Sunnyside and I agree with everyone that the drink prices are too high but I have no control over that and I pay for every drink... no hooks ups for promoters at this venue!

Pat Boogie I think next summer you should consider more day parties. This way you wont have issues with the sound being too loud at certain times or people skipping out early for other events. That venue is amazing in the sun and it boggles my mind that we havent seen many day parties there yet...

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Originally posted by Intangible Pat Boogie I think next summer you should consider more day parties. This way you wont have issues with the sound being too loud at certain times or people skipping out early for other events. That venue is amazing in the sun and it boggles my mind that we havent seen many day parties there yet...

We try every year to organize daytime events at Sunnyside but the venue is always booked solid throughout the summer months. Usually the daytime is booked up with corporate events. We take what we can get because we love it there!

I'm actually shocked about all of the negative reviews. I personally had a great night.

We got there VERY early because we were driving in from Hamilton and didn't know what to expect as far as traffic. Drove around for about 45 minutes trying to find parking!!! Brutal. Only to find out from the bouncers that they don't enforce the after midnight no-parking rule in the lot right beside the venue.

I hadn't really heard of alot of the openers so I didn't know what to expect but I thought they did a good job. I'll agree that TMB should've been on earlier but I was kind of expecting that they would close out the night. They played alot of what they've been playing in recent sets I've heard of theirs. I wish we could've got up closer to see them because they are a fun duo to watch but it was soooo packed up front. We spent the rest of the night near the back (between the washroom and the fountain) where the volume was still pretty loud.

We left shortly after 2 because my fiance had to work in the morning. The place was absolutely packed when we left. I would definately go to another party there (as long as set times are released). Might hit up Dennis on Labour Day weekend.


Positives:

- Openers were good and TMB killed it
- The venue is amazing. I would love a good daytime tribal party there. Perfect venue for that.
- A huge group of friends with us.
- The vibe and crowd were awesome.
- Sound system was pretty good for an outdoor event (up until the volume was turned down)


Negatives:

- Parking situation.
- Drink prices.
- I'm glad they were there but the port-o-potties were DISGUSTING by the end of the night.
- The fact that TMB came on late and we only got to see them for 1.5 hours.
- Set times not being released. I hate waiting around not knowing when the headliner is coming on.

Whats everyone's deal with the parking situation? I parked in the parking lot on the west side of sunnyside with no problem. it was free and there was MORE than enough spaces for people. Anyone who had trouble with parking should have parked beside me lol.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme Anyone who had trouble with parking should have parked beside me lol.

lol

800 tickets sold in advance = a guaranteed profit.

arrive early not to dissapoint = dishonesty to those paying customers



This is what I pull out of all of this.

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Originally posted by Knox 800 tickets sold in advance = a guaranteed profit. arrive early not to dissapoint = dishonesty to those paying customers This is what I pull out of all of this.

+1
I give him credit for taking the feedback constructively though

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Originally posted by Knox 800 tickets sold in advance = a guaranteed profit. arrive early not to dissapoint = dishonesty to those paying customers This is what I pull out of all of this.

i was not deliberately deceiving people out of greed so please don't make it sound that way. I am not that kind of person and I try to conduct my business with honesty and integrity. It was an admitted mistake and surely something that i will not do again.

If I was in this business for the money, I would have retired 10 years ago. If there are some of you who really and truly had their night completely f*ckered by the whole arrive early thing because you were planning on hitting a couple of events in the same night, hit me up VIA pm here or on facebook and I will do something nice for you for my next Sunnyside event with Dennis Ferrer on Labour Day Long Weekend, Sunday, September 5th if you wish to attend.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme Whats everyone's deal with the parking situation? I parked in the parking lot on the west side of sunnyside with no problem. it was free and there was MORE than enough spaces for people. Anyone who had trouble with parking should have parked beside me lol.

well, considering the Toronto parking nazis, we wanted to be extra safe. $35 ticket is never appreciated!

The signage in the parking lots on lakeshore said no parking past midnight..yet they were fine apparently. So we managed to find some parking up on parkside instead.

Pat really handed the negative feedback well. Some of these complaints are valid but most seem like whining. Sunnyside is a great venue, but a nightmare to work with.

Here's to 5 years of Boogie Inc...

This thread is giving me a good laugh.

Some of the comments and whining are just too funny.

People need to realize how many stupid and out of control factors promoters have to deal with when doing and planning an event.

Pat is a great promoter and he is not in the business to screw anyone for profit. Actually i am sure he does these event because he loves the music and wants to showcase his favorite sound.

Do you guys actually think that the promoters wanted to turn down the music and not stick with what they had planned.

sometimes shit happens and you have to go with the flow and work around it. Maybe when some of you start organizing events yourself youll see how hard it is to work with venues and such....especially Sunnyside.

just be positive that we even have parties like this in toronto and yes they sometimes dont go exacly as planned but alteast parties like this happen.

everyone that i talked too said it was one of the best sunnysides ever.

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