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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-18-2010 11:46:

If you don't understand the basics of DJing (like knowing what a crossfader is) you're not going to understand any DJ software. It's possible the software you already have works okay, but if you don't know how a transition works you'll be stumbling in the dark trying to create one.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Aug-18-2010 16:14:

Send an application to VINCENT. If he blesses you with his grace, he'll mix it so smoothly for you it may as well be a symphony


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-18-2010 19:50:

Well I downloaded and tried the automix and that seems to not do what I want it to do. It will load up the track(s) and have the bpms already set for each song, but there wasnt anywhere I could figure out how to edit the bpms, and then save them so that they play on that set bpm. So if the track is already calculated at 140.00 bpm and I want to decrease the bpm rate to 128.00, there doesnt seem to be a way to do it. I can go into the track itself and change the bpm in there, but when the track reloads back up, its still calculated at its original bpm default.

SO, I uninstalled that software and tried to DeckaDance and that seemed to do more options, but again, there wasnt any location I could edit the bpm's without manually moving the crossover and fader and resaving the track at the requested bpm. I know theres softare out there that automatically adjusts the song to the bpm rate you set each track too without you having to play the song or manually adjust the faders and crossovers and such.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-18-2010 19:58:

I think theres a software out there a friend told me in the past that actually might work for me. I think its called Ableton or something like that to where its more for editing music. Cause I dont want to mix the tracks or anything like atomix and this deckadance softare seems to do. All I want to do is edit the tempo and bpms for each track and then save them, so later on when I DO want to mix the tracks together, I wont be trying to learn what you guys do in mixing. I can just put one track over the other and the matching bpms should make it easier for them to fit one another, if this makes sense.


Posted by Trance-M on Aug-18-2010 20:51:

Using a program like Traktor with auto-sync to me sounds easier compared to what you want to do with saving tracks to other bpm's.

An overview: http://dj-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

For editing tracks I use Wavelab for many years now.


Posted by weidenkind on Aug-18-2010 20:55:

use mixmeister, its by far the easiest

just drag the tunes in a playlist, it calculates the bpm automatically, you can then sort them by bpm or set them all at the same speed

as to transitions, you can just set it automatically (8,16,32,64 bars)

in 80% mixmeister will do an ok mix on its own, sometimes it gets the beats wrong and then you have to slightly adjust it or change the intro and outro but its much easier than with "real time" mixing software where you can always screw up whereas in mixmeister you do transition after transition and record whenever your happy


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-18-2010 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Using a program like Traktor with auto-sync to me sounds easier compared to what you want to do with saving tracks to other bpm's.

An overview: http://dj-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

For editing tracks I use Wavelab for many years now.


Gotcha gotcha. Ill give these a shot and see if they follow what I want to do. Thanks.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-18-2010 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by weidenkind
use mixmeister, its by far the easiest

just drag the tunes in a playlist, it calculates the bpm automatically, you can then sort them by bpm or set them all at the same speed

as to transitions, you can just set it automatically (8,16,32,64 bars)

in 80% mixmeister will do an ok mix on its own, sometimes it gets the beats wrong and then you have to slightly adjust it or change the intro and outro but its much easier than with "real time" mixing software where you can always screw up whereas in mixmeister you do transition after transition and record whenever your happy


Ok thanks. Ill check it out.


Posted by floyd741 on Aug-19-2010 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
I think its called Ableton or something like that to where its more for editing music.

Lol, if you can't even figure out the simple ass programs that have been suggested, don't bother with Ableton.

However, if you did know what you were doing and wanted to do more stuff like this, I would absolutely recommend you use Ableton.


Posted by EddieZilker on Aug-19-2010 01:55:

The title of this thread pretty much gives it away...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-19-2010 01:56:

My brain a'splode.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-19-2010 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
Lol, if you can't even figure out the simple ass programs that have been suggested, don't bother with Ableton.

However, if you did know what you were doing and wanted to do more stuff like this, I would absolutely recommend you use Ableton.


Well, I have figured out the programs that were suggested. The problem though is atomixmp3 seems to be an online mixing software where you drop your tracks into it and it autobeats the music AS you mix. I dont want to mix the tracks, and deckadance seems to do the same thing as if you are mixing online. Again, all I want to do is use a bpm editor to change the bpm on the track to a highier or lower bpm and then save it. Thats it. Ive got another software app Im using to put the tracks together. I just remember someone suggesting using Ableton in the past but forgot how you set your bpms to each track and save them, thats all.


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-19-2010 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
Well, I have figured out the programs that were suggested. The problem though is atomixmp3 seems to be an online mixing software where you drop your tracks into it and it autobeats the music AS you mix. I dont want to mix the tracks, and deckadance seems to do the same thing as if you are mixing online. I havent checked out the mixmeister one yet, so perhaps this will work for me. Idk. Again, all I want to do is use a bpm editor to change the bpm on the track to a highier or lower bpm and then save it. Thats it. Ive got another software app Im using to put the tracks together. I just remember someone suggesting using Ableton in the past but forgot how you set your bpms to each track and save them, thats all.


Posted by EddieZilker on Aug-19-2010 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
Well, I have figured out the programs that were suggested. The problem though is atomixmp3 seems to be an online mixing software where you drop your tracks into it and it autobeats the music AS you mix. I dont want to mix the tracks, and deckadance seems to do the same thing as if you are mixing online. Again, all I want to do is use a bpm editor to change the bpm on the track to a highier or lower bpm and then save it. Thats it. Ive got another software app Im using to put the tracks together. I just remember someone suggesting using Ableton in the past but forgot how you set your bpms to each track and save them, thats all.


http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

If you know the original BPM, Audacity has a tool which will allow you to do tempo conversions. I think it even has a tempo detector - I could be wrong as I don't use it, very often.


Posted by Morphology on Aug-19-2010 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
fanny pack


Posted by Doctorwho on Aug-19-2010 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

If you know the original BPM, Audacity has a tool which will allow you to do tempo conversions. I think it even has a tempo detector - I could be wrong as I don't use it, very often.


Gotcha. Thanks a bunch. Yah after reviewing the screenshots, this looks to be what Im looking for. Thanks again. Ill give this a try.


Posted by flymo-meek on Aug-19-2010 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
alternatively, you could just do this:



Holy shit that is really bad. I was a tiesto fan at the beginning of my trance journey back in the day but I'm amazed that he did this!!! Ego or too much crack beforehand? Probably a bit of both.

Jesus christ.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-19-2010 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by flymo-meek
Holy shit that is really bad. I was a tiesto fan at the beginning of my trance journey back in the day but I'm amazed that he did this!!! Ego or too much crack beforehand? Probably a bit of both.

Jesus christ.


It's fake.


Posted by owien on Aug-19-2010 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Doctorwho
Well, I have figured out the programs that were suggested. The problem though is atomixmp3 seems to be an online mixing software where you drop your tracks into it and it autobeats the music AS you mix. I dont want to mix the tracks, and deckadance seems to do the same thing as if you are mixing online. Again, all I want to do is use a bpm editor to change the bpm on the track to a highier or lower bpm and then save it. Thats it. Ive got another software app Im using to put the tracks together. I just remember someone suggesting using Ableton in the past but forgot how you set your bpms to each track and save them, thats all.
well if you only want to change the tempo of any given track then soundforge will do this


Posted by flymo-meek on Aug-19-2010 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's fake.


Thank God.


Posted by Redd on Aug-19-2010 22:39:

How can people not get that?


Posted by Ivand on Aug-20-2010 13:37:

MIXMEISTER WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN AN EASY VISUAL WAY.

QUIT TRYING OTHER SOFTWARE AS YOU FAIL HORRIBLY.

just use mixmeister and stop talking fgs


Posted by Danny Ocean on Aug-20-2010 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by flymo-meek
Thank God.



Posted by Trance-M on Aug-20-2010 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by flymo-meek
Holy shit that is really bad. I was a tiesto fan at the beginning of my trance journey back in the day but I'm amazed that he did this!!! Ego or too much crack beforehand? Probably a bit of both.

Jesus christ.


Compare..... lol that you believe it was real


Posted by woscar on Aug-20-2010 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
How can people not get that?


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