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Originally posted by DigiNut And if you'd posted that, I wouldn't have locked it. Not a fan of these "hey, guess what my thread is about!" threads. They always seem funny to the people who are in the joke but they're just noise to everybody else.

That's not what it was at all.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Tehlord

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Originally posted by DigiNut And if you'd posted that, I wouldn't have locked it. Not a fan of these "hey, guess what my thread is about!" threads. They always seem funny to the people who are in the joke but they're just noise to everybody else.

It was a sort of inside joke but a pretty public one as nearly every thread recently that has discussed monitors has had some sort of discussion about HS80 vs KRK's and most of those posts have come from me and Tehlord.

The problem was, if I had seen it in time (before it was closed) there would have been real discussion about the actual topic.

Back OT - that's kind of what i was talking about with the KRK's - it's not that they badly distort or have massive scoop(s) at places in the spectrum - it's more like a overall lack of detail - a harsh analogy would be like putting a plastic bag over your monitors and listening through that.

getting the HS80's is like taking that plastic bag off (not to mention, far better bass response and a flatter overall response.

maybe i should consider the hs80 myself. my monitor hunt is getting annoying.

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Originally posted by 19503 maybe i should consider the hs80 myself. my monitor hunt is getting annoying.

get some passive silver tannoys

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd get some passive silver tannoys

jesus those came in passive??? omg. ive been looking at conventional tannoys for some weeks now. i gotta listen to these.

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd get some passive silver tannoys

They are nice but do slightly lack in the real lower end / true sub range. They're fantastic for music better suited to radio which are heavy in vocals and real instruments but I find something lacking with the Tannoy Precisions for EDM because of the lack of deep low end.

Palm - you should consider the HS80's (fuck it's like I have shares in yamaha or something) - I personlly don't really understand the mid price range monitor market anymore.

By that I mean I just don't really get why people don't go one way or the other - either go cheap and get the LSR2325p's or HS80s or go the whole hog and get focals or if you're really loaded the barefoots. That middle ground just doesn't seem to make sense to me anymore when the cheap ones are so good value and the expensive ones are really not *that* much more than the mid range priced monitors but are simply in a different league.

the really deep end doesnt bother me too much as long as it can handle it without starting to distort. i like them to go deep but it doesnt have to be flat down there. a slow rolloff from 80Hz and down is more than enough i think. i will consider the HS80 but im afraid the upper mid aint good enough. i might just save longer and get some serious shit but i dont really know which ones to save for. the focal twins are too big. the solos are probably too weak. jbl lsr6328 are probably too big again (they are monsters). event opal might be a solution. atleast ive started looking at 8" woofers now as i like some power handling.

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Originally posted by 19503 i will consider the HS80 but im afraid the upper mid aint good enough.

I would imagine it'd be more than ok!

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Originally posted by 19503 the really deep end doesnt bother me too much as long as it can handle it without starting to distort. i like them to go deep but it doesnt have to be flat down there. a slow rolloff from 80Hz and down is more than enough i think. i will consider the HS80 but im afraid the upper mid aint good enough. i might just save longer and get some serious shit but i dont really know which ones to save for. the focal twins are too big. the solos are probably too weak. jbl lsr6328 are probably too big again (they are monsters). event opal might be a solution. atleast ive started looking at 8" woofers now as i like some power handling.

Go for the hs80's until you grow the testicles needed to handle the raw powah that is the focal twins.

Seriously, the mid and highs are great on the hs80's - the 6328's are indeed monsters, and they should be for $2500!


The solos are not going to be really much help with EDM becuase they do lack the lower end (although the mids and highs are stunning).

But at that money you'd just be nuts to go for anything other than the focal twins - I'm not overstating it, they are honestly become the stuff of legend. Everyone who was skeptical started to think the hype would die down but they are just becoming the studio benchmark by which all others are measured.

You can spend $600 on HS80's and have really good monitors or spend $3000 and have the best. The middle ground is IMO, not worth it as your spending a lot more money for only a small increase so either save the money and get the excellent hs80's or pony up and get the focals.

if only they weren't so damn ugly. What an eye sore.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad if only they weren't so damn ugly. What an eye sore.

Just close your eyes and think of Britain....

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Just close your eyes and think of Britain....

Thought it was "think of England."

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad if only they weren't so damn ugly. What an eye sore.

which ones? focals or yamahas or the JBLs? the focals atleast looks like they tried, but the width makes them impossible to place anywhere else than above a mixing console. i will try to get the yamahas home to compare to my hifis sound. they must be better in all points if its gonna be worth it at all, i dont see the point in downgrade, but i need to upgrade as my hifis arent flat at all. theyre revealing though which i love and if im getting monitors they have to be alteast that much revealing. another problem with the yamahas are the rear bassport. they have room control though, anyone know at what freq? i might test a sinus in my room just to find out the problems. oh wait, found a pic of the back, seems to be 500Hz.

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Originally posted by 19503 which ones? focals or yamahas or the JBLs? the focals atleast looks like they tried, but the width makes them impossible to place anywhere else than above a mixing console. i will try to get the yamahas home to compare to my hifis sound. they must be better in all points if its gonna be worth it at all, i dont see the point in downgrade, but i need to upgrade as my hifis arent flat at all. theyre revealing though which i love and if im getting monitors they have to be alteast that much revealing. another problem with the yamahas are the rear bassport. they have room control though, anyone know at what freq? i might test a sinus in my room just to find out the problems. oh wait, found a pic of the back, seems to be 500Hz.

Dude i've got the Yamahas in an awful position in a rubbish room and I can still use them. The room is 30' x 10' and i've got my desk in a corner firing along the short wall. It's also hard floored and high ceilings. I'm sure that if I had them in a treated room they would be immensely better, but they're incredibly useable even in this setup. My most recent mix is a whole leap forward using the HS80s and that's down to the monitors not the user!

Here's the position I have them in :-

I might be wrong but that looks pretty wide... Maybe try putting them behind your desk or on the wall or something?

Don't take my word on that...

looks like a perfect triangle to me. IF anything they are just too close to the wall which doesn't look like a wall but rather a curtain one would use to dress up as a ghost on Halloween. I can't find my glasses.

There's little I can do about the position of the monitors in the room sadly. I'm currently house hunting with the main priority being a treatable studio area!

The triangle itself is pretty spot on and i've got the tweeters at about ear height so i'm making the best of a shite situation.

The left monitor is in a corner, that's a small return wall it's up against. The right one is against a wall that's another 20ft off to the right. Behind my seated position is another corner 10ft away.

It's a miracle I can mix there at all tbfh


I will most likely keep the MDF on tin cans after the move. It has character.

i will deeply consider these. it might be pointless to consider anything more high end in my room and with my skills anyway. do they handle to play loud too? these will be my only speakers and from time to time i like to play loud when having friends over.

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Originally posted by 19503 i will deeply consider these. it might be pointless to consider anything more high end in my room and with my skills anyway. do they handle to play loud too? these will be my only speakers and from time to time i like to play loud when having friends over.

They're loud enough for me

yeah with 1m distance i bet they are hehe. but how do they sound like 3-4m away?

Still plenty loud enough for me from another room tbh.

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Originally posted by 19503 yeah with 1m distance i bet they are hehe. but how do they sound like 3-4m away?

Don't worry about volume - those ******s go louder than you'd ever want to mix at.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Don't worry about volume - those ******s go louder than you'd ever want to mix at.

yeah but they will be party speakers too u know. can they handle 10 drunk people fighting about controlling spotify? lol

10 drunk people around your equipment ? jesus man.

I get nervous when just my girlfriend and her wine glass gets within 5 feet

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