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How about a Blue Blueberry? I've never used one, but they supposedly are renowned for handling very loud vocalists.

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Originally posted by cryophonik How about a Blue Blueberry? I've never used one, but they supposedly are renowned for handling very loud vocalists.

I don't like Blue mics that much. I've not used the Blueberry but my experiences with the lower range ones have been less than impressive and I just feel the MA200, 414, VTB or TM1 are so much better in their relative price brackets.

Hate to gatecrash the thread, but RANN, how about a mic for a loud male vocalist at about $500? You know your stuff when it comes to mics.... I've been thinking an audio Technica 4040, but maybe there's a better option...

Cryo, have you thought about selling your one Q and getting an API lunchbox with one of those Shadow Hills mic pre's..? They're really versatile and could colour up the ribbon nicely as well as giving you something more transparent for your AKG.

Just thinking aloud...

this is a 1000 or more thread. Fuck off.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Cryo, have you thought about selling your one Q and getting an API lunchbox with one of those Shadow Hills mic pre's..?

Yeah, I've thought (dreamt) about that. Actually the 500-series pages in my Sweetwater catalog have drool stains on them and some of the pages are stuck together for some odd reason....

.....uhhh, yeah. Where was I? Oh, yeah, I don't have the self-discipline to buy an API lunchbox and only put 1 or 2 modules in it, so that would end up costing me like $5-7K. I like the sound and (esp) versatility of my OneQ a lot, so I'll just stick with that for now. The Shadow Hills pre is a worthy consideration, though.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad this is a 1000 or more thread.

I thought it was an $800 or less thread??? Are you covering the difference? If so, I'll reconsider the API lunchbox.

hmmm, this is a NA thread only. fuck off. There we go.

we used a mojave audio MA-200 the other night on just about everything. there are about 12 of them in the room, and they're quite possibly the most versatile and usable mic i have ever come across. sounds amazing on vocals! check it out whoever is looking for a well priced mic that is that friggin good

they have a cheaper FET version, 300+ cheaper ($700) compared to the ma-200's $1100 price tag

warm it up for 2 or so hours before recording, add some canare cables with neutrik connectors and it's cleaner than jessica albas butthole

Just bought a SE Electronics 2200t using it together with my Empirical Labs distressors on a MR816x pre amp. works well
more than enough gain flexibillity and i love the Tube sound of the 2200

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Originally posted by kitphillips Hate to gatecrash the thread, but RANN, how about a mic for a loud male vocalist at about $500? You know your stuff when it comes to mics.... I've been thinking an audio Technica 4040, but maybe there's a better option... Just thinking aloud...

For that money I'd be tempted to try and find a Neumann TLM103 second hand. I've seen the go for as low as $600 on ebay, and while I find them a little bright, on a male vocal, especially someone with a slightly deeper voice, the 103 does really nice things in the mid range.

not that versatile as anyone with higher pitched voice is going to to upfront on that but good if it's just for male or deeper female. It just gets too fatiguing with a alto etc.

But you're gonna have to get lucking for one at that price.

The mojave (MA201) FET is a great mic as well, and you can get them for $600 new if you know where to look. It's basically the same thing as the tube version but slightly less warm in the mid and lows. Still very clean sounding and very usable for a lot of applications.

I have a lot of experience with the AT4040 - back in london I used to produce live radio interviews and four of those puppies were our workhorses. I haven't used them for singing vocals, more spoken word.
My opinion is that they are good mics for $300, a bit flat (and by that I do not mean dark or not bright) I just mean they're not really that exciting in terms of sound. They do the trick and work well for a lot of voices. I think they are good value.

....but I would spend the extra and go for the AT4047 which for vox really shines - very nice low and not a sharp high end - great all rounder which can be used as a room mic, great on guitars as well.

Your other option is the Shure KMS32 which is very similar to the 4047 in application but I prefer the 4047 (but it's really just personal opinion as they're both great and different people like different characteristics).

My suggestion is to go with the 4047 or Mojave 201 FET - I think the extra $200 over the 4040 is worth it as the 4040 is just bit plain.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Yeah, I've thought (dreamt) about that. Actually the 500-series pages in my Sweetwater catalog have drool stains on them and some of the pages are stuck together for some odd reason.... .....uhhh, yeah. Where was I? Oh, yeah, I don't have the self-discipline to buy an API lunchbox and only put 1 or 2 modules in it, so that would end up costing me like $5-7K. I like the sound and (esp) versatility of my OneQ a lot, so I'll just stick with that for now. The Shadow Hills pre is a worthy consideration, though. I thought it was an $800 or less thread??? Are you covering the difference? If so, I'll reconsider the API lunchbox.

Fair enough. I just figure you might be better off with a really versatile high quality pre than a couple of different but lower quality ones.

You can get 2 or 3 space 500 racks by the way if that would help you resist temptation

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Originally posted by DJ RANN For that money I'd be tempted to try and find a Neumann TLM103 second hand. I've seen the go for as low as $600 on ebay, and while I find them a little bright, on a male vocal, especially someone with a slightly deeper voice, the 103 does really nice things in the mid range. not that versatile as anyone with higher pitched voice is going to to upfront on that but good if it's just for male or deeper female. It just gets too fatiguing with a alto etc. But you're gonna have to get lucking for one at that price. The mojave (MA201) FET is a great mic as well, and you can get them for $600 new if you know where to look. It's basically the same thing as the tube version but slightly less warm in the mid and lows. Still very clean sounding and very usable for a lot of applications. I have a lot of experience with the AT4040 - back in london I used to produce live radio interviews and four of those puppies were our workhorses. I haven't used them for singing vocals, more spoken word. My opinion is that they are good mics for $300, a bit flat (and by that I do not mean dark or not bright) I just mean they're not really that exciting in terms of sound. They do the trick and work well for a lot of voices. I think they are good value. ....but I would spend the extra and go for the AT4047 which for vox really shines - very nice low and not a sharp high end - great all rounder which can be used as a room mic, great on guitars as well. Your other option is the Shure KMS32 which is very similar to the 4047 in application but I prefer the 4047 (but it's really just personal opinion as they're both great and different people like different characteristics). My suggestion is to go with the 4047 or Mojave 201 FET - I think the extra $200 over the 4040 is worth it as the 4040 is just bit plain.

Thanks for the insight mate, useful info there... Maybe I'll look into the mojave, if I could get one for 600 then it'd be a steal IMO. My other option was the Audio technica 4050, but its only $100 less than the mojave, which probably has better resale value.

Probably the TLM wouldn't be a good option since I'll be primarily using the mic on myself and my voice can get a bit gnarly in the upper registers, especially when doing falsetto... I'm really keen to get something quite flat, perhaps even scooped slightly in the low mids, but quite a lot of roll off in the top.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Fair enough. I just figure you might be better off with a really versatile high quality pre than a couple of different but lower quality ones. You can get 2 or 3 space 500 racks by the way if that would help you resist temptation Thanks for the insight mate, useful info there... Maybe I'll look into the mojave, if I could get one for 600 then it'd be a steal IMO. My other option was the Audio technica 4050, but its only $100 less than the mojave, which probably has better resale value. Probably the TLM wouldn't be a good option since I'll be primarily using the mic on myself and my voice can get a bit gnarly in the upper registers, especially when doing falsetto... I'm really keen to get something quite flat, perhaps even scooped slightly in the low mids, but quite a lot of roll off in the top.

The mojave will be perfect for you then and it's nice that you can use it on other stuff if needed, as well as other singers if the need arises. Keep an eye out on ebay and even gearschmuckz - they do sometimes come up for great deals....

I actually see a good deal on the Tube version right now... Seriously considering it...

audiomidi.com is giving away an sE Reflexion filter ($300 value) with the purchase of any one of the following mics:

■ AKG C 414 XLS Condenser
■ Blue Microphones Bottle Rocket Stage One Large-Diaphragm Condenser
■ Miktek C7 Large-Diaphragm Multi-Pattern FET Condenser
■ Miktek C5 Small-Diaphragm Cardioid Condenser
■ Mojave Audio MA-200 Large-Diaphragm Condenser
■ Mojave Audio MA-201fet Large-Diaphragm Condenser

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Originally posted by cryophonik audiomidi.com is giving away an sE Reflexion filter ($300 value) with the purchase of any one of the following mics: ■ AKG C 414 XLS Condenser ■ Blue Microphones Bottle Rocket Stage One Large-Diaphragm Condenser ■ Miktek C7 Large-Diaphragm Multi-Pattern FET Condenser ■ Miktek C5 Small-Diaphragm Cardioid Condenser ■ Mojave Audio MA-200 Large-Diaphragm Condenser ■ Mojave Audio MA-201fet Large-Diaphragm Condenser

Which is great but their prices aren't all that - honestly, most producers (especially yourself Dave) would be better off opening an account with GCpro. I'm not sure what price breaks you'd get be they are nearly always better than retail, especially for the amount of stuff you buy.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I actually see a good deal on the Tube version right now... Seriously considering it...

DO IT! That mic is fucking wicked.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN honestly, most producers (especially yourself Dave) would be better off opening an account with GCpro. I'm not sure what price breaks you'd get be they are nearly always better than retail, especially for the amount of stuff you buy.

That's good to know, even though I buy most of my equipment pre-owned (I'm a serious eBay and craigslist hound) and I also get pretty good breaks from my sales dude at my local GC. But, honestly, since making my last big round of changes to my studio back in February, I haven't made any major purchases, aside from the FHII and soon-to-be-purchased preamp, and my plan is to stick with my current setup for quite some time. But, thanks for the tip - I'll definitely look into it if/when I do make some more major purchases.

BTW, I got my FHII yesterday and got a chance to try it out on one my singers last night (Mia) - initial results are VERY positive.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's good to know, even though I buy most of my equipment pre-owned (I'm a serious eBay and craigslist hound) and I also get pretty good breaks from my sales dude at my local GC. But, honestly, since making my last big round of changes to my studio back in February, I haven't made any major purchases, aside from the FHII and soon-to-be-purchased preamp, and my plan is to stick with my current setup for quite some time. But, thanks for the tip - I'll definitely look into it if/when I do make some more major purchases. BTW, I got my FHII yesterday and got a chance to try it out on one my singers last night (Mia) - initial results are VERY positive.

Congrats! I think it's a truly great mic and I would love to hear your thoughts on it once it's had some serious outings.

I've never done a raspy/gravely voice on it - I would especially like to know what that sounds like on it.

for some reason , I would never buy mics or monitors pre owned.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad for some reason , I would never buy mics or monitors pre owned.

Generally no, but certain monitors I would consider (mackie and genelex for instance because they are built so well) and with some mics you just don't have a choice (vintage neumanns, gefels etc).

To be honest with mics, the more expensive they are the less worried I am about it.

I'd never buy a second hand mic without hearing it first (unless it was cheap and I could return it anyway if needed) and you can tell in a few short minutes if it's been caned beyond existance.

We had a guy who had inherated an SM2 and he brought it so we could demo it and it just didn't sound right. Thankfully we had another we could AB it with but even without it, you could tell there was an issue.

Turned out the power supply had been messed with and it was an expensive fix so it was turned down.

Oh, and just to clarify, the mic I bought brand new.

BTW, I'm pretty impressed with the accessories the FHII comes with - very nice custom aluminum flight case for everything, an individual custom-foam-fitted cedar box for the mic, very nice shockmount, cloth mic bag, and mic cloth. I don't think I've ever purchased a mic under $500 with that many accessories.

@DJ RANN - I'll post some comparisons of it with different singers' voices after I get my preamp and spend some time with it.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad you know some of the best vocal recordings were done with an sm57.

This makes me feel good.
I own a sm-57!

rode nt1a here......need to get some singers in here and put it to use

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It's basically a close contender to the Sony c800g which is close to $10,000 retail and it's pretty damn close.

Master P has that mic the Sony c800g!

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 Master P has that mic the Sony c800g!

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