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Originally posted by Lira But, I'm willing to bet we'd get a far more consistent amount of cynical replies if the original poster drew our attention to how violently cows and pigs are killed in some other countries.

What's that supposed to mean? I simply don't want to eat an animal that I keep as a pet, never mind the brutal way in which they are kept, culminating in a deplorably bloody death. I don't want to eat beef from a cow that's had a death rivaling the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

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Originally posted by Lira What's got into you, Hal?

It was the wink that did it. You fucker!

I'm sorry, I just get easily riled up about this topic. Cats and dogs are some of the only things that prevent me from killing people.

I don't like eating cats and dogs for sentimental reasons, but I wouldn't pretend it's any more wrong than eating other animals. The main problem with what the OP describes is the terrible treatment of the animals while they're still alive.

There are far more despicable Chinese culinary habits. They have one dish, considered a delicacy, where they scale a fish, chop its tail off and then boil it in oil while it's still alive. The fish is then served up while still taking its last gasps of air - the aim of the meal is for the fish to still be visibly gulping as the plate arrives at your table.

And no, this isn't a myth. I've seen a Chinese chef at a top restaurant do the entire process.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Cats and dogs are some of the only things that prevent me from killing people.

For real.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On It was the wink that did it. You fucker!

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin What's that supposed to mean?

That I wonder if everyone that thinks this is deplorable would also be outraged by a similar situation afflicting other animals, such as cows and pigs, and I also wonder if people would be tolerant of this situation if the dogs were well kept, but were swiftly and painlessly killed in order to be devoured by hungry foreigners.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On The problem with eating carnivores is that they tend to be very low in fat, and are extremely chewy/stringy. Ever tried bald eagle? Fucking terrible - I had to spit it out!

nah.. well birds are generally omnivores so you're comparing a more primitive type meat (bird/lizzard) to a mamalian meat (which i was touching base on). carnivore isn't a very good cladistical measure as it groups way too many animals to an extremley primitive homology. I know the inuit can solely live on seal for example (a carnivore) and they do fine. Its all about adjusting your body to the diet, albeit it may take several generations to do so, it could suffice compared to eating herbivores.

Keep in mind humans have developed into pure gluttons, realistically we should be able to survive on a 1500 calorie diet, if not less!. The logic for evolution says that if you can spend less energy to get more, its beneficial. A calorie/nutritionally dense food, is always better and more convenient.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J There are far more despicable Chinese culinary habits.

The 'medicine' industry there is also responsible for killing off masses of endangered species, rhinos and tigers especially. Their torture of bears with tubes stuck in their bile ducts is horrific as well

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Originally posted by Lira That I wonder if everyone that thinks this is deplorable would also be outraged by a similar situation afflicting other animals, such as cows and pigs, and I also wonder if people would be tolerant of this situation if the dogs were well kept, but were swiftly and painlessly killed in order to be devoured by hungry foreigners.

No, I wouldn't find it deplorable for Chinese to do it, as long as the animals are treated and killed humanely. I would find it deplorable no matter what in America because it's just culturally repulsive. I can't eat an animal that I or so many people I've known had as a pet.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin No, I wouldn't find it deplorable for Chinese to do it, as long as the animals are treated and killed humanely. I would find it deplorable no matter what in America because it's just culturally repulsive. I can't eat an animal that I or so many people I've known had as a pet.

I know many people around here that keep pigs as pets. Would that make pork immoral in Brazil then?

*sigh*

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Originally posted by The17sss

so cute, I love kitties. I wish I could buy the crate full of cats in the first pics

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Originally posted by Lira I know many people around here that keep pigs as pets. Would that make pork immoral in Brazil then?

I used the term "culturally repulsive". 99.9% of Americans find eating a cat or dog repulsive.

.1% REPRESENT!

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin I used the term "culturally repulsive". 99.9% of Americans find eating a cat or dog repulsive.

I know. That's why I asked about your opinion on eating an animal that is sometimes kept as a pet, but in another country, as it clearly doesn't apply to the US

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Originally posted by Lira I know. That's why I asked about your opinion on eating an animal that is sometimes kept as a pet, but in another country, as it clearly doesn't apply to the US

You're implying an absolute standard and I'm not. What is acceptable in one country may not be in another. The only absolute I'm applying is the humane treatment of animals.

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Originally posted by Lira I know. That's why I asked about your opinion on eating an animal that is sometimes kept as a pet, but in another country, as it clearly doesn't apply to the US

Pigs are gross and ugly. And their orgasms last 30 min. So I envy them and hate them.
Therefore I have no sympathy for pigs being eaten.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin You're implying an absolute standard

No, I'm not. I'm asking you if, in Brazil, solely in a Brazilian context, and exclusively in this country where I happen to live and pigs are both kept as pets and eaten voraciously, if it is immoral to eat pork. Is it? Here, a pig is a pet devoured by potential owners.

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Originally posted by Enigmatik Pigs are gross and ugly. And their orgasms last 30 min. So I envy them and hate them. Therefore I have no sympathy for pigs being eaten.

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Originally posted by couch-potato .1% REPRESENT!

Eating pussy doesn't count, Couch

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Originally posted by Lira No, I'm not. I'm asking you if, in Brazil, solely in a Brazilian context, and exclusively in this country where I happen to live and pigs are both kept as pets and eaten voraciously, if it is immoral to eat pork. Is it? Here, a pig is a pet devoured by potential owners.

I don't think so, because pork is voraciously consumed around the world, it is not the case with cats and dogs. So the idea of eating your pig pet is more 'digestible', so to speak, because eating pig is considered 'normal' and acceptable everywhere.

Re: Cats and Dogs in China - WTF Story of the Day

lets hope they don't run out of pets.


fuck mang the chinese probably eat better than I do (may still have a 1 up on the north koreans though.



fact is a dog and cat is no different than a cow snake or rhino.


just cuase you eat it doesn't make it any less emotive and real, and mamillian. It is our own species ( acouple times removed)!

Personally I'd have no issue with eating any animal that died of natural causes --- conditions of farm animals are horendous -- religions like hinduism, jainism etc.. are suppose to hold animals such as the cow as sacred and with ahimsa all animals as tainted thus not consumed.

(I'm all do honour to the animal) I'm not a person to slaughter or murder sensed animals though) I'm a little uncertain about clams and snails though??? Turtle was definately off limits.. but for some reason snails were fine and clams were vaugely questionable.. that is,, do clams have brains? Or are they meat in a dish?

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Originally posted by Lira No, I'm not. I'm asking you if, in Brazil, solely in a Brazilian context, and exclusively in this country where I happen to live and pigs are both kept as pets and eaten voraciously, if it is immoral to eat pork. Is it? Here, a pig is a pet devoured by potential owners.

No it isn't. Like I said, the only absolute I'm applying is the humane treatment of animals. I couldn't care less if you kept a chicken as a pet, and then chopped its head off to eat it. Just as long as the chicken isn't essentially, tortured, before its death.

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Originally posted by Lira Actually, I don't have a cat But the same argument could be made if I had a pet calf. Right?

I stopped reading here so forgive me if I'm regurgitating content that's already been covered, but I think this becomes a very valid argument if we're talking about pork. Cows are fucking retarded. Pigs are comparably and in some cases more intelligent than dogs. The inhumanity of slaughtering our favorite pets for nourishment is only so because they're domesticated - we recognize and enjoy their intelligence. As much as I love a fat piece of bacon, factory-fresh pork is rather fucked up.

Edit: fuck I'm wayyy late

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i might not agree with the way the chinese treat their animals, but imo its worth it just to see halcyon spit the dummy

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Originally posted by ******** Personally I'd have no issue with eating any animal that died of natural causes

you're an idiot. the last thing you want to do is eat an animal that died of "natural causes".

In a country that big, you eat what you get. In my country there is a saying: "Chinese people eat whatever moves"

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