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Originally posted by Mad for Brad a kick doesn't just have bass frequencies. Your initial argument was to lower the bass. That is absolutely retarded. And i've explained why bass is not as damaging as mid range frequencies. If you can't make the correlation between the that diagram and the topic at hand, you are stupid. What more can I say.

http://www.dangerousdecibels.org/faq.cfm#18


And a kick usually has its highest amplitude at low frequencies...turning down the bass or EQ'ing it out would drop the amplitude quite a bit, and the overall volume of what is playing back...helping the ears out. I dont even know why you took the negative stance you did.

In this thread and the other one you proved you are just another forum turd that is always looking for something to troll. "I hasszsz masters degree...yet the intelligence of a 6 year old."


ps: where is the usual Forum Troll brigade that comes in and saves a fellow troll? What happened to troll nepotism?

you don't seem to understand that your ear boosts certain frequencies so to your ear, certain frequencies will have a higher dB level than others due to the construction of your ear which is clearly detailed in that diagram. What don't you get. If you send a 100 dB signal at 60hz and a 100 dB at 4k, your ear will boost the 4k signal making it louder. Can you understand this ?

I dont think you understand that chart yourself in reference to hearing loss.


Using your logic derived from that chart. Would a 100db 4khz sound be more damaging to ears than a 100db 16khz sound? Say they each were played in one long note for 2 hours. The 100db 4khz was in the left ear and the 100db 16khz sound was in the right ear.

the fletcher curve is based off this. The problem is you don't seem to be able to understand the chart and make the correlation that a dB's entering your ear are not treated the same and since as you said, it is dB level that affects hearing loss, the ear's natural amplification mechanisms are very important.

mad for brad is probably the best person to have joined this forum in years

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Originally posted by jupiterone mad for brad is probably the best person to have rejoined this forum in years

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Originally posted by Kismet7

you know, i had that feeling myself

Kismet7

I often feel that you are actually on some sort of drug binge when you start all this tautologous reasoning with absolutely no facts or references. I wonder if the confidence you exude is not so much the workings of an idiot but rather the tweaked state of mind of someone on the tale end of a meth binge. I say this because you seem to chime in every so often and it always seems to be on a weekend. Get some sleep.

its hard being an artist bro

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad the fletcher curve is based off this. The problem is you don't seem to be able to understand the chart and make the correlation that a dB's entering your ear are not treated the same and since as you said, it is dB level that affects hearing loss, the ear's natural amplification mechanisms are very important.

Using this chart you know well...is a -20dbfs 4khz sound played in 4/4 tempo at 120bpm more damaging to the ear than a -7dbfs kick in which most of its amplitude is in the 40hz-400hz range. Whatis damaging your ear more? Give us something practical.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad Kismet7 I often feel that you are actually on some sort of drug binge when you start all this tautologous reasoning with absolutely no facts or references. I wonder if the confidence you exude is not so much the workings of an idiot but rather the tweaked state of mind of someone on the tale end of a meth binge. I say this because you seem to chime in every so often and it always seems to be on a weekend. Get some sleep.

O are we psychoanalyzing now? You remind of a soulless turd who has nothing better to do with their life so you sit on a forum talking to people as if you know shit but you really have nothing to show for it. And somehow you've managed to get a masters degree (money buys degreeeez) whilst being completely out of touch with reality, and perhaps this is why you've ended up here with a masters degree. Should have put that edumacation to better use, and not wasted money. And no I dont use any synthetic drugs...i'm not dumb white boy with a masters degree and a trust fund.

fight fight fight!

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Originally posted by jupiterone fight fight fight!

She needs her girlfriends and their purses! Together they are strongerrr

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Should have put that edumacation to better use, and not wasted money. And no I dont use any synthetic drugs...i'm not dumb white boy with a masters degree and a trust fund.

Had a scholarship for both my undergrad and masters. It didn't cost me a penny. And I'm working in the industry I trained for making a living doing what I love. How is that wasted ? IN fact i'm in the industry you so desperately want to break into lol. Remember that thread ? Oh Kismet7 you are priceless!

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad Had a scholarship for both my undergrad and masters. It didn't cost me a penny. And I'm working in the industry I trained for making a living doing what I love. How is that wasted ? IN fact i'm in the industry you so desperately want to break into lol. Remember that thread ? Oh Kismet7 you are priceless!

Allllllls I gotta say is that if I has a masters degreeez in any respectable field of study...I aint gonna be on some production forum talking like a half assed idiot. I'd be a professsional at the thing I got a masters in. So what went wrong? Studios gigs dont pay much these days...and I know you're not going to pull out "I did so and so big shots album" on us now. And hey I did'nt bring up the whole education thing, you did...and most people I know with a Master's degree are quite mature and respectable...something I cant say about ya. So even if you do have a masters degree...my response is...reallllly?

I am a professional. so is djRann. What exactly is your point. And I am respectable to people that deserve my respect. You don't. I also find it funny that you claim to know people with master degrees like it is uncommon.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad I am a professional. so is djRann. What exactly is your point.

DJRann comes off as a professional...even though we disagree on some things...you...not so much.

Anyhow forget all this nonsense...back to what we were taking about.

Using this chart you know well...is a -20dbfs 4khz sound played in 4/4 tempo at 120bpm more damaging to the ear than a -7dbfs kick in which most of its amplitude is in the 40hz-400hz range. What is damaging your ear more? Give us something practical.

djRann is much more well tempered and a little wiser as he is older. My specialty is composition. I'm paid to be creative and people that are creative tend to be a little out there. So yes, I am out there, a little immature and quite neurotic. I still don't see your point. You should consider it a blessing that someone of my stature even acknowledges your stupid asinine posts. Chime in on any theory thread if you want to see me talk shop.

and your question is meaningless as dBfs gives absolutely no indication of actual energy being produced. The curve does change depending on the actual spl dB level.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad djRann is much more well tempered and a little wiser as he is older. My specialty is composition. I'm paid to be creative and people that are creative tend to be a little out there. So yes, I am out there, a little immature and quite neurotic. I still don't see your point. You should consider it a blessing that someone of my stature even acknowledges your stupid asinine posts.

Look at that...an honest post...that fizzled at the end. If you're neurotic i'll leave you alone.

Though I do have to admit, I like a little struggle in the form of debate...I like to embelish some form of struggle because its quite the musical aphrodisiac. Which weirdly helps me make some of my music, one form of inspiration that works for me somehow. I guess Swamper will deserve a random check some day.

you are twisted.

Arguing gives me a headache and disturbs my chi.

You need more green chai in your life. Good for the soul.

Gone Fishing

MrJiveBoJingles, do you have an AC in your car? I don't, and during the already-gone finnish indian summer, I used to drive windows open. As I'm driving in the left seat of my car, as do you I suppose, the wind really hit my ear. It was the noise from the wind, and the breeze from the wind. It got infected, and I couldn't hear properly with it. I felt a slight pressure and heard everything a bit muddy. Clean your ears and progressively start listening to music quieter.
Driving your car you might jack the volume up, way up, because of the tire noise that makes it's way into your car and your ears, eventually masking the lower frequencies. Well, yeah.

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Originally posted by JEO MrJiveBoJingles, do you have an AC in your car? I don't, and during the already-gone finnish indian summer, I used to drive windows open. As I'm driving in the left seat of my car, as do you I suppose, the wind really hit my ear. It was the noise from the wind, and the breeze from the wind. It got infected, and I couldn't hear properly with it. I felt a slight pressure and heard everything a bit muddy. Clean your ears and progressively start listening to music quieter. Driving your car you might jack the volume up, way up, because of the tire noise that makes it's way into your car and your ears, eventually masking the lower frequencies. Well, yeah.

I used to drive with the window open sometimes, but not very much at all in the past couple years. I have also been listening to music at lower volumes in general than I used to in the past year or so (just wanted to protect my ears), and haven't been to any clubs in about a year and a half, either.

Try putting your finger in to both of your ear canals. You'll propably feel either one of them is slightly narrower than the other.
This may be natural at your case, or an indication of ear infection. My left ear canal is narrower than the right one, so an infection in that ear has drastic consequences, everything gets boomy, since it's already a little narrow and the infection will propably get it swollen up somehow, making it more narrow.

I drive an italian car that starts with an f, and the tire noise is fucking incredible. I almost feel like I need some kind of an ear protection driving that red beast.

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