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Posted by VDub on Sep-09-2010 14:24:

Lol at the square footage...

200 square meters = just over 2100 square feet...

Just the Guv main room alone is 22000 square feet...

I wonder how far away the condos are on the north side of the highway...


Posted by The Highroller on Sep-09-2010 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
so new developments can't have more than 1 floor? i don't get it..


Even if it is for new clubs only, with the rate that clubs go out of business in this city, this will have a major impact within a few short years.


Posted by Prometheus Xex on Sep-09-2010 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Sorin.16v
Ridiculous.. Why doesn't anyone protest in this city


I don't think anyone will listen. Old ppl, yes the ones my age, don't give a rats ass about nightclubs. Them days is long gone for them and they are the ones will all the vast amounts of investment money. Investments in condos, etc, are more important than night clubs to ppl that are growing closer to retirement.


Posted by smuncky on Sep-09-2010 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
why dont we? im willing to organize if i can get some help. Its an election, people are going to listen.


Start by posting on all candidates facebook walls. Also send them emails. Lastly, lets organize a protest.

Im in



in the last thread you promised us you'd compile a bunch of councillor's emails and them post them here so we can contact them to complain about the back patio bylaw. did that happen? that was over 2 weeks ago.

what makes you think u can organize a protest?


Posted by The Highroller on Sep-09-2010 14:40:

The first thing I'm going to do is write an email to my city councillor about this, and afterward I will post it in this thread.

What else can be done about this? We should create an ongoing list of various courses of action we all can take to fight this

- Email/call/write on Facebook page of your City Councillor
- Email/call/write on Facebook page of candidates
- Write a letter to the editor of your favourite newspaper
- Create an online petition
- Create a Facebook group

Where a lot of the resistance to this ridiculous bylaw is going to need to come from is from club owners and those that work in the industry. They have the time and money to deal with this problem, and it directly and significantly impacts their business. It's time for various interested parties in the industry to work together and maybe form some sort of lobbying group or meaningful business association to the resist and counteract the bullying by City Council that has been going on for far too long.

It is with this bylaw that the Council has finally crossed the line.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-09-2010 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller

It is with this bylaw that the Council has finally crossed the line.


they crossed the line a long time ago but now that it actually affects something people on this forum enjoy you all complain now. Jay has shown you all this was going to happen for years now but you all didn't care to make change then....you dug your own grave people.


Posted by geroin on Sep-09-2010 15:09:

can someone create a facebook page?? i'm actually really pissed off about this. Is there a possibility that with enough complaints they may revert it back to the way it was? (i know it's a little more complicated than that)

It is obvious they are trying to eventually weed out every single club from the downtown core and move them outside of the city so they can use that space for other businesses and have other regions in the GTA deal with the violence/loud noise and everything else. Old people are ruining our city.


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-09-2010 15:12:

as if your sports teams were bad enough to deal with, Toronto is turning into a giant Ottawa


Posted by geroin on Sep-09-2010 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
Toronto is turning into a giant vagina


fixed


Posted by Spin Laden on Sep-09-2010 15:24:

thanks groin


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-09-2010 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
fixed


so are you calling giant vaginas boring...cause I would beg to differ on that.


Posted by shagnew13 on Sep-09-2010 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
so are you calling giant vaginas boring...cause I would beg to differ on that.


Elephantitis of the Vag!!!! LOL


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I'm pretty sure its for new developments....not existing ones.


liquor licences routinely come up for renewal.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
can someone create a facebook page?? i'm actually really pissed off about this. Is there a possibility that with enough complaints they may revert it back to the way it was? (i know it's a little more complicated than that)

It is obvious they are trying to eventually weed out every single club from the downtown core and move them outside of the city so they can use that space for other businesses and have other regions in the GTA deal with the violence/loud noise and everything else. Old people are ruining our city.


Already did

and it has almost 1900 members

please join and invite everyone on your friends list! It will be a great conduit towards organizing!


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?g...83020643&v=info


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
in the last thread you promised us you'd compile a bunch of councillor's emails and them post them here so we can contact them to complain about the back patio bylaw. did that happen? that was over 2 weeks ago.

what makes you think u can organize a protest?



1900 people in my facebook group and growing. Thats what

honestly why not contribute to the cause instead of posting this?

As i said, WITH HELP i would love to organize.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
The first thing I'm going to do is write an email to my city councillor about this, and afterward I will post it in this thread.

What else can be done about this? We should create an ongoing list of various courses of action we all can take to fight this

- Email/call/write on Facebook page of your City Councillor
- Email/call/write on Facebook page of candidates
- Write a letter to the editor of your favourite newspaper
- Create an online petition
- Create a Facebook group

Where a lot of the resistance to this ridiculous bylaw is going to need to come from is from club owners and those that work in the industry. They have the time and money to deal with this problem, and it directly and significantly impacts their business. It's time for various interested parties in the industry to work together and maybe form some sort of lobbying group or meaningful business association to the resist and counteract the bullying by City Council that has been going on for far too long.

It is with this bylaw that the Council has finally crossed the line.


Excellent ideas. Lets make this an election issue. With social media and blogs etc at our hands, it wouldnt be that hard to do!


Posted by Swamper on Sep-09-2010 17:27:

Perhaps a new fb 'page' (not group) is required here - specifically to deal with these new bylaws.

(Jay, your group is a great start but I think this needs to be more focused otherwise it will get lost in the shuffle)


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Perhaps a new fb 'page' (not group) is required here - specifically to deal with these new bylaws.

(Jay, your group is a great start but I think this needs to be more focused otherwise it will get lost in the shuffle)




Good points.


i might be able to change the group name to be more specific. I can also send out a group message detailing the problem.

1900 is a good base to grow from. Lets see if i can do it.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:33:

I can do it. Any suggestions on what you guys think the title should be?


Posted by mute79 on Sep-09-2010 17:33:

i must be alone in thinking that they passed this bylaw just so they could legally shut down certain clubs in the city

like, why did they pick 200m2 for the allowed floor space? just seems so arbitrary.. why not 250m2?


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by mute79
i must be alone in thinking that they passed this bylaw just so they could legally shut down certain clubs in the city

like, why did they pick 200m2 for the allowed floor space? just seems so arbitrary.. why not 250m2?


the bars that hold TIFF and adam vaughan's parties arent bigger than that maybe?


Posted by jchung52 on Sep-09-2010 17:36:

How about posting on groups/pages for MTV/Much/z103/other mass outlets for young adult category?


Posted by knacker on Sep-09-2010 17:38:

complete bullshit.

just another reason why I plan on leaving this city in one year's time.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-09-2010 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
How about posting on groups/pages for MTV/Much/z103/other mass outlets for young adult category?


excellent idea.

so im in the process of updating the description. Then i am going to rename the group. I invite everyone to recruit as many members as possible.

I will then send out a press release to media organizations and candidates. You guys can also help by helping compile a list of media and candidates. (since i was in new york last week and didnt have time smuncky )

Now is the time to be heard since everyone wants votes!!!


Posted by VDub on Sep-09-2010 17:42:

I find it interesting that the man who started club land is now building a condo in it...

Future thinking...


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