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Originally posted by Lira Religious internets should not be allowed to have people.

I'm not sure where I can go from that




Oscar, I found that Michael Moore video quite entertaining! It's amazing how some people still react to stuff like that.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Great point. I don't think a theologist should get anything that remotely sounds like "PhD." After all, other fields have words other than PhD that are respectable within that field of study.

Actually, the problem is not that he is a theologian, but that he's talking about something that has nothing to do with his area of expertise. If I get a PhD in linguistics, that doesn't make me any more knowledgeable about chemistry than the average college drop-out.

It's cool to criticise and look for flaws, but sometimes you know too little about a given subject to even pretend you have an opinion about it.

I assure you that if you go to this meeting and tell them what you just told me, they'll probably get fanatical, call you a heretic, and then they'll fshhhh I dunno start eating poo poo.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson Great point. I don't think a theologist should get anything that remotely sounds like "PhD."

I feel exactly the same way, but I'm sensing that it is for an entirely different reason.

sigh

I am so close to where this is going to take place and I want to go! Do you think they could explain the age of the earth while they are at it, I have a hard time believing the universe is much more than 6,000 years old.

oh, it's the last lecture. I'll have to sign up now. I've never understood why the church felt like the earth had to be the center of the universe or a certain age in order for their religions to exist. But, I've tried arguing this point with so many people and when they just use the God can make anything happen even if its contrary to the laws of nature argument, there isn't really a leg to stand on. The arguments are good for a laugh though.

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Originally posted by gmilf I've never understood why the church felt like the earth had to be the center of the universe or a certain age in order for their religions to exist.

It's because that makes us all the more special

I mean, if we are in the centre of the universe, then probably it was built for us! It makes sense to me. Doesn't it to you?

I'm pretty sure they are gonna diss the black hole theory next.

that's just priceless

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Originally posted by Lira You know, whenever people claim to have a PhD, they should be honest and tell everyone upfront what exactly it is that they study. This Sungenis guy is a theologian, he knows about physics as much as Richard Dawkins knows about theology =T ps.: I first read "Galileo was Wong". Now that would be excerrent!

good point, and FKNLOL @ Galileo was wong!

If the sun�s light could reach "so-called" Mars as the photos from NASA depict, then our night skies would not be dark.

If the Earth was truly spherical then when the earth would spin on its axis away from the sun, the earth's skies would still remain lit-up. Think of it in this matter, when you walk into a room lit-up by a lamp, upon facing the lamp you have the light directly before you, and if you turned your back against the lamp the light would be no longer before you but the surrounding spaces of that room would still be lit-up, same would apply for the space earth is in.

Now many come-back replies will be; �there�s nothing to reflect the sun�s light between earth and Mars to light up our night skies?� But its not the reflection of anything that manages to get the sun�s light to reach us here on Earth in the first place.

Use the room and lamp example again; there could be shiny reflective objects in the room, say a ninja sword, or an over & under shotgun above the fireplace but its not these objects reflections that are illuminating the surrounding space of the room, it�s the lamp (Sun).

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Planets don't EXIST, if the sun's light could reach ten's of millions of miles passed Earth reaching Mars no-body would be getting any rest at night, there would still be light, and there would be no GOD

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Originally posted by dj_alfi If the sun�s light could reach "so-called" Mars as the photos from NASA depict, then our night skies would not be dark.

Actually, the darkness of the night sky was a scientific puzzle for a long time. In a static universe with an infinite number of stars in every direction, it stands to reason that there should be light coming from every point of the night sky:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physi.../GR/olbers.html

It was finally solved only in the early twentieth century, with the proposal of the modern cosmological framework including relativity and the Big Bang.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Actually, the darkness of the night sky was a scientific puzzle for a long time. In a static universe with an infinite number of stars in every direction, it stands to reason that there should be light coming from every point of the night sky: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physi.../GR/olbers.html It was finally solved only in the early twentieth century, with the proposal of the modern cosmological framework including relativity and the Big Bang.

That was the only part you had a problem with?

No, it was all bad. I just looked over the mass of idiocy and plucked one bit out of it to make a comment.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles No, it was all bad. I just looked over the mass of idiocy and plucked one bit out of it to make a comment.

It's all about the comments with you, huh? a comment here and a comment there. what they say arent important, just as long as you get you precious comments? exactly.

I just love how this thread has taken such a Heliocentric point of view!

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Originally posted by gmilf I am so close to where this is going to take place and I want to go! Do you think they could explain the age of the earth while they are at it, I have a hard time believing the universe is much more than 6,000 years old.

They usually say that the Bible points to a young Earth and therefore all the radiometric aging methods used by scientists are flawed.

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