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| Originally posted by keithos27 i have a 92 rotary from 5 years ago... did they stop offering the rotary now-a-days? it seems like all of their new mixers are fader only... |
Maybe A&H wants to tap the mainstream market. Those DJ's are very effect heavy. Right now A&H is pretty much preferred over the EDM market, but what about the mainstream market? You know, the ones that use your Pio's & Ranes?
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| Originally posted by DjWoody Maybe A&H wants to tap the mainstream market. Those DJ's are very effect heavy. Right now A&H is pretty much preferred over the EDM market, but what about the mainstream market? You know, the ones that use your Pio's & Ranes? |
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| Originally posted by amp3 I think you are right on with this, their 22 was probably the start of their trek into this market, and this is to compete with pioneer's new 2000, and the sixty eight. I wouldn't be surprised to see something in the middle come out in the next 12 months. |
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| Originally posted by Stu Cox Indeed. As nice as it is to think of A&H as the 'noble' brand who focus on high sound quality and professionalism, favouring those nice grown-up filters over childish effects (I'm stereotyping a bit here), at the end of the day it's a business and if they think they can steal some of the market share from the DJM800, who can blame them? |
Djm800 killer? Yeah right... the 800 is prob the most widely used mixer in the world now. I see them everywhere. Those eqs look terrible what are they trying do? Re-invent the wheel?
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| Originally posted by discobiscuit Djm800 killer? Yeah right... the 800 is prob the most widely used mixer in the world now. I see them everywhere. Those eqs look terrible what are they trying do? Re-invent the wheel? |
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| Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd no they are trying to keep trolls like you away from their products u half wit |
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| Originally posted by djsaekone looks ugly as hell |
Sorry but I have to disagree with the consensus on here.
Yes I think it looks a little cheaper. But for some reason I think that's to do with the colour of the mixer.
Also, while i know the mixer has more going on compared to it's older brothers. I think a lot of thought has been put into the positioning of the knobs and faders.
Starting off at the bottom the faders seem to be longer than the 800's maybe a little shorter than the 92's, but the extra leds are a nice addition and who knows they might encourage people not to hit all three red leds.
The Channel fx buttons have been subtly added at the bottom of the mixer. Headphone jacks and levels are similar to their other mixers, not complaints there. Filter section is nearly identical again.
The EQ knobs.... I see why people think it's weird that they've 'tiered' their eq's differently but it makes sense to me. The fact that they're not situated on top of each other gives you a lot more space to twist the knobs. It actually looks like there's loads of space! (to me)
Finally the Effects section looks clean enough. Nice large knob with some flat buttons.
Yes the EQ ISO switch is situated really close to the EQ knobs but i think it's pretty small, when compared to the Filter/Fader switch so might not be an issue.
Mixer is released today at noon GMT so we'll have more feedback by tonight hopefully.
Would i buy it? No. I'm happy with my 92.
I'm willing to bet the faders still have the same throw length, just looks deceiving with all that is going on. Where they have shortened the length to keep within standard dimensions is by staggering the hi/mid/low knobs.
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| Originally posted by progress I'm willing to bet the faders still have the same throw length, just looks deceiving with all that is going on. Where they have shortened the length to keep within standard dimensions is by staggering the hi/mid/low knobs. |
It's beautiful in an ugly way 
I want one of these, two X1's and two 900/2000's thanks.
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| Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd no they are trying to keep trolls like you away from their products u half wit |
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| Originally posted by darouge11 lol! High five man |
WOW!!! This is an Expensive with a capital E mixer!!! From the press release it sounds like it's an amazing mixer, but is it worth it?
Suggested Retail Price is �1,933.37 + VAT
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ALLEN & HEATH LAUNCHES GROUND-BREAKING NEW DIGITAL DJ MIXER
Allen & Heath has unveiled the Xone
B4, a ground-breaking fully digital, high performance DJ mixer with a unique Quad FX Core DSP engine, providing 4 FX BPM Loop record engines with channel EQ filters. Other key features are multi-channel USB audio with MIDI, analogue and digital I/O, input source matrix, easy to read OLED display screen, and USB for recalling user set ups.
The heart of the XoneB4 is the powerful Quad FX Core DSP engine, enabling each channel to have its own FX bank and BPM detection system, which automatically adjusts all time-related FX and loops to the tempo of the music. There are 5 basic studio quality FX types optimised for DJ use, comprising delays, reverbs, modulators, resonators and damage, plus each FX type has a patch library of different effect variations that can be assigned to the relevant control. Each FX bank has a dedicated expression control and a rotary pot to set the wet/dry level, whilst further effect tweaking can be performed using the global controllers in the FX master section.
In addition to the FX, each channel has a built-in looper, with selectable loop length from 1/64 beat to 4 bars using the rotary encoder. No matter what loop length is selected, the XoneB4 will always record the maximum of 4 bars, so the loop can be expanded or shrunk at will. With an intuitive layout similar to the industry standard Xone:92, there are also two filter banks on either side of the main mix channels.
Each music channel can select any of the available stereo audio sources: Analogue Line 1-4 (switchable to Phono on 2 - 3), Digital 1-4, or USB 1-4. Additionally, the Mic/Auxiliary channel can be routed through channel 1 for further processing.
Each music channel has a 3-band EQ that can be configured as standard asymmetric EQ (+6/-25dB), total Kill (+6dB/OFF with a 24dB/octave slope), or reconfigured as a High-Pass/Low-Pass filter system with adjustable resonance. The EQ knobs incorporate an illuminated pointer that changes colour as a visual aid to show which type of equalization has been selected.
There is a Mic/Auxiliary input to the left of the main mixer section, providing 2-band EQ, gain, cue, and mix level. This can also be routed to channel 1 if you wish to add FX to this channel. To the right of the main mixer is the master section, with main mix level, booth level, and headphone monitoring system.
The OLED display is clearly visible even in bright sunlight, and displays each channel FX selection and current BPM, as well as being an easy and intuitive interface for the Menu set up functions. The mixer offers many user defined settings, such as meter mode, BPM range, USB audio routing scheme, display brightness, in addition to the extensive built-in FX library, and these settings can be saved to a USB key for recall on another unit, such as in a fixed club installation.
There is a built-in, multi-channel USB2 soundcard allowing replay and recording from computer-based audio software for 4 stereo sends and 4 stereo returns. All controls (except Mic and Phones level) send MIDI data but the mixer can double up as a MIDI controller via the MIDI shift button, which allows the Loop and FX selection controls to send MIDI data without changing the mixer settings.
The XoneB4 has a new stylish, lightweight aluminium chassis designed to make touring with the console easy. Other features include assignable deck starts, crossfader and upfader curve controls, 13-point level metering, digital output, analogue balanced outputs for main mix and booth, and a record output with adjustable level.
"The XoneB4 is a truly ground-breaking mixer and by far the most advanced product that we have designed. Every feature has been meticulously researched with a view to offering DJ's ultimate creativity," comments Xone design manager, Andy Rigby-Jones. "Based on the iLive pro-touring FX system, we developed FX algorithms with BPM conscious parameters and tight spectral control, customised to perfectly fit the DJ environment. As the loops and FX are automatically synchronised to the tempo of the song, it is very easy to build some amazing grooves and soundscapes without problems of latency, low fidelity and the general hassle often associated with using software and laptops. The icing on the cake is the flexible input matrix, where any audio source can be selected on any or all of the channels. Different processing can be applied to the same track on separate channels and you can fade between them, or a phrase sampled in the looper of one channel can be added to the mix later in the track. Our digital design team has done an incredible job to ensure that this is one of the most innovative and exciting DJ mix tools to date."
Suggested Retail Price is �1,933.37 + VAT
Availability: December 2010
nitpicking here, but wish it was all black...
2000GBP?
so much for the djm700 market.
Over priced and dont like the idea of the eqs not being in a nice neat line lol
This could well go the way of the Tascam X9... i.e. a handful of dedicated fans who swear by it, but venues refusing to install it because it would confuse the life out of your average DJ who doesn't take a keen interest in the technology.
That price really isn't going to help - very very few bedroom DJs are going to stump up the cash for that so they're limited to a few elite pros who might take it under their wing and take it on tour with them. I'm not convinced that market's big enough.
The only other major mixers I can think of which are that expensive are the DJM1000, which HAS won over the clubs thanks to its simplicity but also power as an install mixer and the Rane 68, which I don't know a lot about tbh, but strikes me as overpriced as well.
I think A&H could learn something from Pioneer about keeping the FX and fancy features out of the way on their mixers. On Pio mixers, if the DJ isn't interested in much more than the basics, they can easily ignore them. A&H mixers are renowned for being confusing to a lot of DJs, which I think is in part because the extra features get in the way - and none more so than on this mixer.
Of course I believe it's a DJ's responsibility to read up on technology and make sure they understand any equipment they might face, but most people just want to be able to turn up, play some tunes and go home again!
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| Originally posted by Stu Cox This could well go the way of the Tascam X9... i.e. a handful of dedicated fans who swear by it, but venues refusing to install it because it would confuse the life out of your average DJ who doesn't take a keen interest in the technology. That price really isn't going to help - very very few bedroom DJs are going to stump up the cash for that so they're limited to a few elite pros who might take it under their wing and take it on tour with them. I'm not convinced that market's big enough. The only other major mixers I can think of which are that expensive are the DJM1000, which HAS won over the clubs thanks to its simplicity but also power as an install mixer and the Rane 68, which I don't know a lot about tbh, but strikes me as overpriced as well. I think A&H could learn something from Pioneer about keeping the FX and fancy features out of the way on their mixers. On Pio mixers, if the DJ isn't interested in much more than the basics, they can easily ignore them. A&H mixers are renowned for being confusing to a lot of DJs, which I think is in part because the extra features get in the way - and none more so than on this mixer. Of course I believe it's a DJ's responsibility to read up on technology and make sure they understand any equipment they might face, but most people just want to be able to turn up, play some tunes and go home again! |
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| Originally posted by Stu Cox This could well go the way of the Tascam X9... i.e. a handful of dedicated fans who swear by it, but venues refusing to install it because it would confuse the life out of your average DJ who doesn't take a keen interest in the technology. That price really isn't going to help - very very few bedroom DJs are going to stump up the cash for that so they're limited to a few elite pros who might take it under their wing and take it on tour with them. I'm not convinced that market's big enough. The only other major mixers I can think of which are that expensive are the DJM1000, which HAS won over the clubs thanks to its simplicity but also power as an install mixer and the Rane 68, which I don't know a lot about tbh, but strikes me as overpriced as well. I think A&H could learn something from Pioneer about keeping the FX and fancy features out of the way on their mixers. On Pio mixers, if the DJ isn't interested in much more than the basics, they can easily ignore them. A&H mixers are renowned for being confusing to a lot of DJs, which I think is in part because the extra features get in the way - and none more so than on this mixer. Of course I believe it's a DJ's responsibility to read up on technology and make sure they understand any equipment they might face, but most people just want to be able to turn up, play some tunes and go home again! |
The more i read about it more impressed i am though.
Wont buy one because of the price but if the price was right i might consider it, down the line some time.
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