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Posted by Simon_N on Oct-05-2010 00:10:

Wouldn't say the best but definitely highly ranked. Window licker is awesome!

Also love this track.




Would love to see him live. Looks like he puts on a great show.


Posted by Tangil on Oct-05-2010 00:42:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Aphex Twin is not "probably the best electronic musician ever". Overrated, dull, boring and uninspired. It's the equivalent of looking at at a Damien Hurst painting, and comparing it to the the Rennaisance masters.


you've really got no clue at all.


Posted by Seppuku on Oct-05-2010 00:45:

Everyone in this thread needs to stop talking, listen to SAW 1&2, then come back.


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Oct-05-2010 06:12:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Laughable.


Hilarious.


quote:
Originally posted by Tangil
you've really got no clue at all.


Because I don't rate/like a particular artist? OK. Fair enough.

Incidently, thanks for the links. But again, I wouldn't listen to any of them out of choice.

Put simply, there are a plenty of other electronic artists' work I'd choose to listen to over Aphex Twin any day; Ulrich Schnauss, Chicane, Signur Ross, Abdomen Burst, etc...


Posted by rawbound on Oct-05-2010 06:21:

Selected Ambient Works 85-92


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-05-2010 10:18:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Because I don't rate/like a particular artist? OK. Fair enough.


No, because you try and make your subjective opinion sound more definitive by using words like "uninspired", which makes you sound like an idiot. Nobody who's heard more than three Aphex Twin tracks could call the guy "uninspired" because he has made an incredible variety of music and most of his tracks sound utterly different to everything else out there. You might think he's over-rated and you might find him boring, but to call him "uninspired" is an absolute joke. Try saying "I don't like him" next time instead of summoning up pompous and unfounded criticisms to sound more valid.


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Oct-05-2010 12:42:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No, because you try and make your subjective opinion sound more definitive by using words like "uninspired", which makes you sound like an idiot.


"Uninspired"
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adj. Having no intellectual, emotional, or spiritual excitement; dull

Precisely what I find Aphex Twin to be.

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Nobody who's heard more than three Aphex Twin tracks could call the guy "uninspired" because he has made an incredible variety of music and most of his tracks sound utterly different to everything else out there.


Wrong. By your logic, he could throw a couple of saucepans around a kitchen, and because it's "utterly different to everything else out there", it's good?


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to call him "uninspired" is an absolute joke.

Because it's an opinion and differs to what you think? Whatever.

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Try saying "I don't like him" next time instead of summoning up pompous and unfounded criticisms to sound more valid.

If I said "I don't like him" you'd then accuse me of making sweeping generalisations.

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instead of summoning up pompous and unfounded criticisms to sound more valid.

What's that got to do with anything? See the dictionary definition above. Would you rather I said "I think AT has no intellectual, emotional, or spiritual excitement, and I find him dull", rather than simply typing "uninspired"?

It's like in the classical world, some idiot raving about the next Glass or Leontsky piece because "it has so many mordants, Tristan chords, hemi-demi-semi quavers, and moves forward with 'beautiful' homophonic progression is techincally omgsogood", but when in fact it sounds utterly boring and horrid.


Posted by Shade on Oct-05-2010 14:38:

Re: Aphex Twin

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Originally posted by Hypersawed
Probably the best electronic musician ever.


Best? I don't know if I'm prepared to call anyone the best.
Certainly talented and stands as one of my favourites though.


Posted by GrimReaper on Oct-05-2010 17:38:

He's perhaps among the best artists in the specific field of music but wouldn't call him the best electronic artist either. He's done many tracks and remixes I've always enjoyed but also equally many I literally hate or can't stand at all.


Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-05-2010 17:55:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Also, BT fucking sucks. He looks like something from fucking Star Wars, and it wouldn't matter what the fuck he looked like if he weren't intent on putting his face all over his work.


exactly.


Posted by Trance-M on Oct-05-2010 18:35:

Not liking someones work to me doesn't mean someone is untalented or uninspired. Although I'm pretty sure many people who do like his work and think he's talented and inspired don't say this about others they don't like.


Posted by Sykonee on Oct-05-2010 19:51:

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Originally posted by Trance-MB
Not liking someones work to me doesn't mean someone is untalented or uninspired. Although I'm pretty sure many people who do like his work and think he's talented and inspired don't say this about others they don't like.

Actually, Rickidy D. James fanboys can be amongst the most pretentious twits around.


Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-05-2010 20:19:

idmlol


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-05-2010 21:51:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
"Uninspired"


"� adj dull or ordinary; unimaginative"

"�adjective not inspired; not creative or spirited"

"sterile: deficient in originality or creativity; lacking powers of invention"

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=uninspired
http://dictionary.reference.com/bro...inspired?&qsrc=

Aphex Twin's music is not ordinary, not unimaginative, not decificient in originality or creativity, not lacking in powers of invention. Whether you like him or not, he is hugely inspired, and has been a massive inspiration to thousands of others. And I wouldn't accuse you of "sweeping generalisations" if you spoke your personal opinion on one artist.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-05-2010 21:58:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06DctJEX8E#t=2m40s

That said, this is now an IDM/Breakcore thread.






Posted by idoru on Oct-05-2010 21:59:

I had the privilege of seeing him DJ a few years back and he floored me. In the hour and fifteen minutes he was scheduled to play he moved from Ambient, to Downtempo, to Hip Hop, to Deep House, to Techno, to Hard House, to Hard Techno, to Drum and Bass and finally topped it off with just some all-out fucking noise.

To this day, it has been one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. I doubt there are many DJs out there who can do that in just over an hour while maintaining impeccable flow.


Posted by Faj27 on Oct-05-2010 22:12:

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Originally posted by idoru
I had the privilege of seeing him DJ a few years back and he floored me. In the hour and fifteen minutes he was scheduled to play he moved from Ambient, to Downtempo, to Hip Hop, to Deep House, to Techno, to Hard House, to Hard Techno, to Drum and Bass and finally topped it off with just some all-out fucking noise.

To this day, it has been one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. I doubt there are many DJs out there who can do that in just over an hour while maintaining impeccable flow.


sounds like his deejay set when i saw him at coachella festival in 2008 - only had an hour to play and covered all of the genres you mentioned. and he did it damn well might i add. still one of the most interesting deejay sets i've ever heard at a live venue.


Posted by sljiva on Oct-06-2010 00:16:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Put simply, there are a plenty of other electronic artists' work I'd choose to listen to over Aphex Twin any day; Ulrich Schnauss, Chicane, Signur Ross, Abdomen Burst, etc...


That's because you like safe, clean and predictable music that is not challenging in any way. Aphex Twin to you sounds like Kraftwerk sounded to close-minded people in the 70s, and that little comment about saucepans perfectly illustrates that. His music doesn't have an intellectual excitement for you, because you have no intellectual capacity to fully understand or appreciate it. You're an equivalent of a kid who listens to Deadmau5 that tries to be taken seriously while discrediting Basic Channel.

Let's forget bullshit definitions, uninspired artists don't create new genres or radically modify existing ones, they struggle their whole career to make a piece of music that people will remember them for. Whether you want to admit it or not, Richard accomplished a lot of things (see my earlier post) and made tons of both unusual, weird and complex, and accessible, beautiful and ethereal music that will surely be remembered for a long, long time.


Posted by pozz on Oct-06-2010 02:58:

he's good.



and an idm addition:



and breakcore:


Posted by mk_u1tra on Oct-06-2010 04:40:

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Which tracks?

I tried checking out some of his stuff, and it sounded like the sortof thing I'd really like... but upon hearing it I was more get to the excellent stuff already.


his ambient stuff is GODLY: rhubarb, alberto balsalm, xtal, tha, heliospan, ETC.

i also love windowlicker, digeridoo, kesson dalef, and Gentle People - Journey [Aphex Twin Care Mix]

come on people, no respect for aphex?????????? yeah a lot of his stuff is an odd combination of beeps and blips, but his masterpieces more than make up for it.


Posted by mk_u1tra on Oct-06-2010 04:42:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Aphex Twin

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Aphex Twin is not "probably the best electronic musician ever". Overrated, dull, boring and uninspired. It's the equivalent of looking at at a Damien Hurst painting, and comparing it to the the Rennaisance masters.


i liked the part where your opinion became fact


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Oct-06-2010 06:19:

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Originally posted by sljiva
... because you have no intellectual capacity to fully understand or appreciate it. You're an equivalent of a kid who listens to Deadmau5 that tries to be taken seriously while discrediting Basic Channel.


I'm grade 8 violin, grade 5 piano, and compose classical music. Exactly what musical training do you have?

It's an opinion. Get over it.


Posted by Teezdalien on Oct-06-2010 06:24:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
I'm grade 8 violin, grade 5 piano, and compose classical music. Exactly what musical training do you have, and could name a thousand classical composers that trounce ATs 'musical ability'

It's an opinion. Get over it.


Do you also build your own instruments?


Posted by justin on Oct-06-2010 06:28:

I guess it goes without mention to say that I really like analogue bubblebath


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Oct-06-2010 07:56:

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Originally posted by Teezdalien
Do you also build your own instruments?


No, because I listen to Deadmau5


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