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Originally posted by Cloudburst I've heard Norwegians say that Swedish is easier to understand than Danish. And I think Norwegian is much easier than Danish, I've had to deal with some Norwegian customers at work and it went fine. It's funny since they are both so easy to understand in written language.

Swedish still mandatory in Finland?

No.

Finnish parents, but living in Sweden.

The trick to speaking danish is to get lots and lots of helium, then chew on some rocks and sing (in any language).

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Originally posted by Cloudburst I've heard Norwegians say that Swedish is easier to understand than Danish. And I think Norwegian is much easier than Danish, I've had to deal with some Norwegian customers at work and it went fine. It's funny since they are both so easy to understand in written language.

Swedish is way easier to understand for me than Danish. In written language it doesn't matter tho, but Danish is closer.

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Originally posted by nortek danish written is easy for norwegian, vocal is not. swedish vocal is easy for norwegians, written not that easy (well quite easy). dans and sweds doesnt understand each other nor norwegian either written or vocal. theres tons of sweds in our capital working in bars and restaurant, and to be able to order anything norwegians have to turn over to swedish because they dont understand a fucking word what we are saying. bastards trying to spread their language here. and poor genes. sweds are fucking treasure-hunters, theyre working all over the planet like in the alps or Mediterranean sea looking for easy money combined with a little partying. lol poor bastards only trying to survive while the dannish is eliminating themself with unable to communicate properly.

not swedish, dane, or norwegian here...and i can't understand you.

According to Jenny or Slylee danish sounds like cum-guzzling whore language or something like that.


Also LOL at mexico being behind a wall of corn flake boxes.

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Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel not swedish, dane, or norwegian here...and i can't understand you.

Norwegians can understand written Danish, but not the spoken language - actually, no one understands their spoken language but the Danes themselves. Norwegians cans also understand spoken Swedish, though the written language is trickier, and Swedes just can't make out what the Norwegians are saying.

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Originally posted by Lira Norwegians can understand written Danish, but not the spoken language - actually, no one understands their spoken language but the Danes themselves. Norwegians cans also understand spoken Swedish, though the written language is trickier, and Swedes just can't make out what the Norwegians are saying.

Almost entirely true.

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Originally posted by Chimney Swedish still mandatory in Finland?

Officially yes, but only a small minority actually speaks it.

I'm Danish, and i can tell you most of you are oversimplifying things. It really depends on what region of the countries you're from. For example, i am from northern Zealand (close to Sweden), and i can easily understand what people from Sk�ne (southern part of Sweden) are saying, but if they're from Stockholm (which is up north) i might struggle quite a bit. I've talked to countless Norwegians and i had no problem understanding them and they no problem understanding me. But i bet there are some obscure dialects up there where i would have to switch to english.

Point is the three languages are VERY, VERY similar when it comes to grammar and written language, i have read several books in Norwegian during the course of my education in Denmark, getting through entirely without a dictionary (written Swedish is a bit harder in general). Norwegian is more logically spelled/pronounced than Danish, where often times the relation between the spelling and the pronunciation is impossible to see for foreigners (including Swedes and Norwegians).

Now i don't know how helpful this will be, since it is using an educational tool trying to be funny, but it will actually show you how a couple words are pronounced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEZ2lDVN3s

If you understand what they're saying it's hilarious, otherwise it will probably seem utterly pointless. But you might pick up a few words There are about a dozen of those videos on YouTube.

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Originally posted by eckmek I'm Danish, and i can tell you most of you are oversimplifying things. It really depends on what region of the countries you're from. For example, i am from northern Zealand (close to Sweden), and i can easily understand what people from Sk�ne (southern part of Sweden) are saying, but if they're from Stockholm (which is up north) i might struggle quite a bit. I've talked to countless Norwegians and i had no problem understanding them and they no problem understanding me. But i bet there are some obscure dialects up there where i would have to switch to english.

Well, that makes a whole lot of sense and is to be expected.

I usually like to simplify this sort of debate myself because there's this fictitious entity called "The <Insert Nationality here> Language", but that's how most people see languages in the world. What you often do have, instead are continua that go from one "language" to another, reason why Germans that live close to the Dutch border find it way easier to understand Dutch (and speak a very "funny" kind of German themselves) when compared to German speakers from more remote areas.

It's only natural that those living next to you (even if they live in another country) sound more familiar than those living in the capital. Even when the languages are unrelated, if they're spoken next to one another for long enough, they eventually borrow a few things from one another.

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Originally posted by eckmek Point is the three languages are VERY, VERY similar when it comes to grammar and written language, i have read several books in Norwegian during the course of my education in Denmark, getting through entirely without a dictionary (written Swedish is a bit harder in general). Norwegian is more logically spelled/pronounced than Danish, where often times the relation between the spelling and the pronunciation is impossible to see for foreigners (including Swedes and Norwegians).

That's because the written language is more static. Portuguese and Spanish aren't mutually intelligible when spoken, but if you're a Brazilian high school student and you pick up a book in Spanish, you're probably able to tell what it is about - even if you have to guess the meaning of every other word and go through dozens of false friends.

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Originally posted by eckmek Now i don't know how helpful this will be, since it is using an educational tool trying to be funny, but it will actually show you how a couple words are pronounced: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEZ2lDVN3s If you understand what they're saying it's hilarious, otherwise it will probably seem utterly pointless. But you might pick up a few words There are about a dozen of those videos on YouTube.

Yeah, I just feel like having pizza now

im trying to teach my self spanish right now, i see it as the most useful language..in north and south america anyways..


what are your reasons for wanting to learn such a hard language, that is only used in one small part of the world?

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Originally posted by Lira Well, that makes a whole lot of sense and is to be expected. I usually like to simplify this sort of debate myself because there's this fictitious entity called "The <Insert Nationality here> Language", but that's how most people see languages in the world. What you often do have, instead are continua that go from one "language" to another, reason why Germans that live close to the Dutch border find it way easier to understand Dutch (and speak a very "funny" kind of German themselves) when compared to German speakers from more remote areas. It's only natural that those living next to you (even if they live in another country) sound more familiar than those living in the capital. Even when the languages are unrelated, if they're spoken next to one another for long enough, they eventually borrow a few things from one another. That's because the written language is more static. Portuguese and Spanish aren't mutually intelligible when spoken, but if you're a Brazilian high school student and you pick up a book in Spanish, you're probably able to tell what it is about - even if you have to guess the meaning of every other word and go through dozens of false friends. Yeah, I just feel like having pizza now

You're always so friggin' nuanced in your answers Lira, can't you be a little more narrowminded every once in a while!?

I was thinking of describing how to speak Danish but then realized it wound up sounding like some freaky porn, 'cause speaking Danish requires you to use your tongue in weird ways and use the back of your throat a lot

If Scandinavia was LotR Danish would be Orc, Norwegian would be Hobbit and Swedish would be Elven.

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Originally posted by Cloudburst If Scandinavia was LotR Danish would be Orc, Norwegian would be Hobbit and Swedish would be Elven.

Hah, that is SO TRUE

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Originally posted by eckmek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEZ2lDVN3s

That just reaffirms my idea that danish children are being punished by their parents when made to wear those clothes...

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Originally posted by nortek

eeewwwww... i hate that show.

but on a related side-note; the times i've been to holland/flamish belgium i have been able to understand pretty much any sign, poster, shampoo bottle etc. i came over without knowing anything about the language. i had 3 years of german in junior high tho, but i rarely paid any attention.

Did the Vikings talk like this too?

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Originally posted by eckmek You're always so friggin' nuanced in your answers Lira, can't you be a little more narrowminded every once in a while!?

Well, that's why I often talk about breasts... the space between them is narrow enough for me to mind

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Originally posted by igottaknow Did the Vikings talk like this too?

Nope.


"Ah, the languages of the Nordics.

Few people realize this, but Norwegians actually speak a language that is far closer to old Danish than Norwegian, while people on Iceland actually speak something close to old Norwegian.
Little FennoSwede is holding on to his uncle Finland because FennoSwedes are Finns who speak Swedish.

Though, you could really just say Swedish, Norwegian, Danish and to some extent Icelandic (But not Finnish) are nothing more than different dialects, seeing as we understand each other if we talk reeeeaaaaly slow and clear."

I disagree with being able to understand Icelandic even if it is spoken reeeeeealy slow, otherwise the statements are pretty accurate.

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Originally posted by LoveHate im trying to teach my self spanish right now, i see it as the most useful language..in north and south america anyways.. what are your reasons for wanting to learn such a hard language, that is only used in one small part of the world?

I've studied Swedish in the past, so I already had a foundation for the language.

best danish thing of all time, probably because he wasn't born there

This really actually makes me want to learn swedish or danish or maybe finnish.

I used to hear my grandparents speaking it and my grandma has tons of books in Finnish and Swedish, and my moms last name is Finnish (but she is Swedish decent).

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Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel best danish thing of all time, probably because he wasn't born there

No, that is the best Danishish thing of all time that wasn't born there.

i'd rather let viggo fist my ass if that is what you are asking nou.

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