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Originally posted by Settimo ^ JACK SPARROW FUCKING FTW dubstep

First time I ever went to a dubstep night I saw Jack Sparrow play. Wasn't supposed to happen at all - I was supposed to go to another club with my friend but couldn't get in, so I just wandered around the city until I saw a poster saying "DUBSTEP" and went inside. Didn't have a clue who he was - wouldn't have remembered the name if not for the MC.

This video is hilarious. I've been to enough parties where that awful bro-step was playing. People weren't dancing, just doing the mosh-pit / head bob / arm wave thing. Which I wouldn't mind if the music wasn't just aggressive flatulence noises.

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Originally posted by pozz out of curiosity... even this?

very nice, this.

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Originally posted by enydo Any additional info on this? Possible release, etc.

naah. i know nothing. random find on the internets. nothing else these guys did is interesting for me, even the flip side to this vinyl.

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Originally posted by osterzone How does that sound like dubstep at all?

you have never heard of the Peverelist? or Shackleton? or Skulldisco (their label)?

check it out. this is where the real nice sound of dubstep is coming out of. the wobbly stuff is just a scratch on the surface. im sure you heard of Burial -- his sound doesnt even compare remotely to the usual junk you find. the definition isn't so set

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Originally posted by enydo Any additional info on this? Possible release, etc.

It's one of the 123455938484504058758503457585050505898 unreleased Mala dubs that will never see the light of the day. Honestly at least 30% of all good tunes in Dubstep never get released. Fucking "Dubplate culture"

Check out this guy http://www.youtube.com/user/beatrixquiddo
All these tunes are unreleased and will 99% never see a release.

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Originally posted by pozz naah. i know nothing. random find on the internets. nothing else these guys did is interesting for me, even the flip side to this vinyl.

How can one not like Mala? I mean I don't like everthing he did but he is one of original founders of Dubstep and he still carries the original spirit. Gotta appreciate that and he did tons of awesome material over the years.

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Originally posted by Adam420 'nuff said

Honestly for me this track always sounded more like a tech-house-dubstep mixture to me. Rest of the album didn't get me that much. I mean I kinda like it but for me there aren't any stand out tunes besides loveless.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J "Bass music" doesn't just refer to dubstep, you know. It includes jungle, dub, 2-step and other urban British-Caribbean styles. And an increasing amount of dubstep doesn't use much or any sub-bass, just as it isn't all at 140bpm.

I still thing bass is what makes the identity of the genre and kind of keeps it together. Of course not everything has ridiculous bass like the DMZ stuff but still.

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Originally posted by sljiva When it comes to soulful dubstep, here's the tune of the moment:

I like this track, I also like the alicia one. have a similar vibe to some of the drum n bass I used to listen to.

Daube = "crap" in French slang

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo How can one not like Mala? I mean I don't like everthing he did but he is one of original founders of Dubstep and he still carries the original spirit. Gotta appreciate that and he did tons of awesome material over the years.

the dubstep i like is more techy, like some of the stuff released on Skulldisco. Mala - Alicia just reminded me of old 2-step garage like Groove Chronicles, had that same loungin jazzy vibe.

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Originally posted by pozz out of curiosity... even this?

This is gorgeous.









For the record, Seb and I were making fun of things like the cookie cutter noise that starts around 5 minutes. That synth and rhythm has been used in nearly every single dubstep track I've heard.

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Originally posted by TranceArmstrong This video is hilarious. I've been to enough parties where that awful bro-step was playing. People weren't dancing, just doing the mosh-pit / head bob / arm wave thing. Which I wouldn't mind if the music wasn't just aggressive flatulence noises.

Sigh... my thoughts exactly.

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Originally posted by iammesol For the record, Seb and I were making fun of things like the cookie cutter noise that starts around 5 minutes. That synth and rhythm has been used in nearly every single dubstep track I've heard.

You mean every Brostep track

And jesus christ that kind of drop is so overusesd it hurts.

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Originally posted by pozz you have never heard of the Peverelist? or Shackleton? or Skulldisco (their label)? check it out. this is where the real nice sound of dubstep is coming out of. the wobbly stuff is just a scratch on the surface. im sure you heard of Burial -- his sound doesnt even compare remotely to the usual junk you find. the definition isn't so set

Allow me to play devil's advocate here in saying that usually these artists appeal to people who already have a predisposition to tech house and techno. Most people that listen to brostep prefer it simply because of the noises we usually find grating and obtrusive (though the lack of creativity in that particular phylum is not debatable). Most of us (myself uncluded) prefer artists like Shackleton, Martyn, Peverlist and the like because there's plenty of elements in their tracks that are incredibly similar to genres we already like.

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Originally posted by Lews Looks like it was a white label, only pressed 500 times. I could only find one copy for sale on the internet and for like $100. Shame, because that song was fucking wicked.

How disappointing... that song is NICE.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Allow me to play devil's advocate here in saying that usually these artists appeal to people who already have a predisposition to tech house and techno. Most people that listen to brostep prefer it simply because of the noises we usually find grating and obtrusive (though the lack of creativity in that particular phylum is not debatable). Most of us (myself uncluded) prefer artists like Shackleton, Martyn, Peverlist and the like because there's plenty of elements in their tracks that are incredibly similar to genres we already like.

For sure, but I also like them cuz of their closeness to the tripped out patterns of IDM. It's fun to mix the two together, and their brand of dubstep keeps the mix steady.

Moderat - Rusty Nails (T++ Remix) <- this is the style I've been dreaming about for a while, I would really wanna make a set with this kinda sound, and the stuff on Skull Disco comes close.

EDIT: i'm wondering, does anyone have an example of a nice brostep track?

maybe this?:

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Originally posted by iammesol For the record, Seb and I were making fun of things like the cookie cutter noise that starts around 5 minutes. That synth and rhythm has been used in nearly every single dubstep track I've heard.

No doubt.

Here's a complimentary free sample of a good dubstep track for you guys:

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Originally posted by pozz For sure, but I also like them cuz of their closeness to the tripped out patterns of IDM. It's fun to mix the two together, and their brand of dubstep keeps the mix steady.

Exactly my point though

We like that dubstep predominantly because it resembles genres we already like. Most people that like brostep aren't privy to techno, house, idm, and all the other riffraff. I've noticed that many of these artists (Martyn, Mala, Peverlist) produce tracks that sound eerily similar as far as elements and structure go.

The two types of dubstep really aren't all too dissimilar imo, and usually the fact that someone likes a certain variety of dubstep has to do with their musical predisposition (not to say there aren't exceptions to the rule).

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Exactly my point though We like that dubstep predominantly because it resembles genres we already like. Most people that like brostep aren't privy to techno, house, idm, and all the other riffraff. I've noticed that many of these artists (Martyn, Mala, Peverlist) produce tracks that sound eerily similar as far as elements and structure go. The two types of dubstep really aren't all too dissimilar imo, and usually the fact that someone likes a certain variety of dubstep has to do to their musical predisposition (not to say there aren't exceptions to the rule).

Too true . +1 commandante

talented guy

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Originally posted by pozz EDIT: i'm wondering, does anyone have an example of a nice brostep track? maybe this?:

That's not Brostep

This is Brostep



Well the first one is more of a joke track, I guess this is more like "real Brostep" (the highs give you headache but thats another thing)



Or mean just a track with nice wobbles? (But this is way too good to be called Brostep)

Maybe this? Classifies as Brostep IMO and I think the wobbles in this track are cool

What is this? Cause i want more dubstep like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpzzGXBW4GA&feature=player_embedded

That Mala - Alicia track is great, until I listened to the original Alicia Keys interlude and then it just didn't do it for me.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo Exactly my point though We like that dubstep predominantly because it resembles genres we already like. Most people that like brostep aren't privy to techno, house, idm, and all the other riffraff. I've noticed that many of these artists (Martyn, Mala, Peverlist) produce tracks that sound eerily similar as far as elements and structure go. The two types of dubstep really aren't all too dissimilar imo, and usually the fact that someone likes a certain variety of dubstep has to do with their musical predisposition (not to say there aren't exceptions to the rule).

I don't see what your point has to do with anything. The question Osterzone asked is what the deeper/techy/whatever stuff has to do with dubstep. Whatever the reasons why people like it, that stuff is still dubstep. It's probably closer to the original deep, trippy, dubby sounds of the genre than the diluted mid-range wobble-shite that people associate with the term these days.

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo Or mean just a track with nice wobbles? (But this is way too good to be called Brostep)

this is a real nice track.

but for the rest of the stuff i guess i didn't know what the hell i was asking for. no doubt nice wobbles all around but harsh. id rather listen to industrial and power electronics.

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Originally posted by pozz this is a real nice track. but for the rest of the stuff i guess i didn't know what the hell i was asking for. no doubt nice wobbles all around but harsh. id rather listen to industrial and power electronics.

Yeah you probably didn't know what you were asking for

98% of Brostep is retarded noises that give me a headache but sometimes the wobbles somehow stick in my head like that Crispy Rolls track.

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