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Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
ur just not old enough. i hope u havent joined the army. people like you are dangerous.


Has anything you've said ever made sense? Jesus fuck. I'm not arguing for or against America here. I'm not of your "My country is the best and all others suck!" variety, so I don't understand why you'd make that assumption.

I started this thread to try to understand where the hatred towards Americans as a people (not as a country) stems from, but literally everything you say makes zero sense. If you mistake my questioning as aggression towards you, I apologize, but I simply do not understand anything you're saying. I don't know if it's your English or what, but I haven't thought anything you've said has a shred of sense or logic in it.


Posted by Serial Killer on Dec-15-2010 18:35:

they hate on America everyday....so let them....until it's time for some kind of a handout....

Examples:

1. All the people who burn the US flag during their demonstrations, immediately run to the supply truck from US whenever it arrives and then smile like they just fucked the prom queen.

2. All the countries hate on the US.....untill it's time to recieve some kind of humanitarian package... so when everything is ok in their country they hate on Us, if something happens they wait for whose help ??? that's right the US of A...

Suck it haters


Posted by Lira on Dec-15-2010 18:38:

Excessive exposure, and stupidity from nationalists that happen to live in other countries due to Tall Poppy syndrome.

Let's face it, we don't know much about other countries, except the ones that get the most exposure. Kazakhstan is amongst the world's ten largest countries, and even educated people find it difficult to name the capital; Portuguese is the 7th most spoken language in the world, yet I don't think anyone would know how to say "Thanks" in Portuguese without looking it up on Google, though they might get this word right in 8th and the 9th most spoken languages (Russian and Japanese, respectively); Bollywood is one of the largest centres of film production in the world... can you name three films produced there? "Slumdog Millionaire" isn't on the list.

This usually drives nationalists nuts. "How come Americans expect me to know their capital is New York [sic] yet they think our capital is Buenos Aires?" is among the things I've heard here in Brazil. Add this to the fact that no country is made up of intellectuals, and you're set: the American version of the ignorance that could be shown anywhere in the world is lampshaded and, because we do know a thing or two about the US, their oblivion regarding the rest of the world is seen as utterly moronic.

And there's also the idea that Americans are too militaristic for their own good. And overly religious. And, in a rather ironic twist, I heard many a Brazilian girl claiming that American women are sluts


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-15-2010 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I heard many a Brazilian girl claiming that American women are sluts


Does this mean that Brazilian girls are even bigger sluts? I need to know this before deciding on going there for the World Cup.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Dec-15-2010 18:45:

Just remember. If it wasn't for America, you'd all be speaking German!


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-15-2010 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Just remember. If it wasn't for America, you'd all be speaking German!


Reason #423 to hate them.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Dec-15-2010 18:47:

because america was the only allied troop... FUCK YEAH!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-15-2010 18:48:

Lira is partly right. American culture is so ubiquitous worldwide that almost everyone on Earth is familiar with it, and through it a weird, hyperreal shadow-play of the American people. You can't hate something you've never heard of.

But if you think that most people who hate Americans have never spoken to one... think about where you're writing this thread and where you read those haters.


Posted by igottaknow on Dec-15-2010 18:49:

looks like sad frog has gained weight


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
whats wrong with you. he actually tries to explain it to you, and when he gives up because you are too closed minded, you sort of tell him to fuck off? you are the reason people hate americans, this shitty way of acting. get your act right man, u ungrateful pos. ive explained to you atleast 5 times now and you still cant get it, "but why me, what did u do" is all you can think of. do u even read whats being said or do u just recognize words as threatening and put up your shields. lol.


Now I'm starting to think you really are just that dumb. You haven't explained anything, because besides the fact that everything you say is barely even readable, it doesn't make any sense either. You literally suggested that to "prove a point" or to stand up against the government, someone should fly a plane into a tower or the Pentagon. What the fuck is wrong with you???


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Excessive exposure, and stupidity from nationalists that happen to live in other countries due to Tall Poppy syndrome.

Let's face it, we don't know much about other countries, except the ones that get the most exposure. Kazakhstan is amongst the world's ten largest countries, and even educated people find it difficult to name the capital; Portuguese is the 7th most spoken language in the world, yet I don't think anyone would know how to say "Thanks" in Portuguese without looking it up on Google, though they might get this word right in 8th and the 9th most spoken languages (Russian and Japanese, respectively); Bollywood is one of the largest centres of film production in the world... can you name three films produced there? "Slumdog Millionaire" isn't on the list.

This usually drives nationalists nuts. "How come Americans expect me to know their capital is New York [sic] yet they think our capital is Buenos Aires?" is among the things I've heard here in Brazil. Add this to the fact that no country is made up of intellectuals, and you're set: the American version of the ignorance that could be shown anywhere in the world is lampshaded and, because we do know a thing or two about the US, their oblivion regarding the rest of the world is seen as utterly moronic.

And there's also the idea that Americans are too militaristic for their own good. And overly religious. And, in a rather ironic twist, I heard many a Brazilian girl claiming that American women are sluts


I could be butchering this, and I haven't the slightest clue if there are any accents, but my only Portuguese friend taught me...Vem Ca Lira! (Let's go Lira!)? I hope that was right haha. Anyways, thank you for some relevant discussion.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Dec-15-2010 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
because america was the only allied troop... FUCK YEAH!


We had sidekicks, of course. Like Batman and Robin.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
this is why! u just dont get it. u as a people, not u as a person.



This sums up my whole point pretty well. You cannot generalize "us" in that way. That's the same as saying all British people have bad teeth and all Canadians play hockey and wear plaid all the time.

You are clearly just as ignorant as how you claim Americans to be.


Posted by Adamo on Dec-15-2010 18:58:

every american I've met during my travels has done nothing but further enforce the stereotype of stupidity and blind patriotism. most places in america apart from like 2 states are god damn shitholes filled with morons. period.

but still, USA! USA! USA! WERE #1!...am i right?


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:02:

And aside from Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, and Quebec, there is nothing at all in Canada but a baron wasteland of beered up morons playing hockey and saying "eh" after every sentence.

I can make incredibly ignorant and moronic statements too.


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-15-2010 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
You cannot generalize "us" in that way. That's the same as saying all British people have bad teeth and all Canadians play hockey and wear plaid all the time.


No it's not. You actually don't get it.
"Evety single American is fat" is not the same as "Americans are fat". The latter is completely true. And generalizations are not wrong or illegitimate but rather an important tool in decision making and understanding the world.
Stupid Americans.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
but all englishmen have bad teeth?? promise me you wont go for politics anytime soon. you shouldnt be allowed voting. this is the perfect example of what is wrong with democracy v1.0, everyone with a mouth are gonna try have their way. u never look at individuals. when u drink a glass of milk do you consider the calsium, the hydrogen and the oxygen separately, or do you consider it milk? i might depend on oxygen, yet milk makes my stomach go flush. im starting to thinking youre trolling me, no one is this ignorant.


What are you?


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
No it's not. You actually don't get it.
"Evety single American is fat" is not the same as "Americans are fat". The latter is completely true. And generalizations are not wrong or illegitimate but rather an important tool in decision making and understanding the world.
Stupid Americans.


Americans are fat = If you are an American, then you are fat = All Americans are fat.


Posted by Lira on Dec-15-2010 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
I could be butchering this, and I haven't the slightest clue if there are any accents, but my only Portuguese friend taught me...Vem Ca Lira! (Let's go Lira!)? I hope that was right haha. Anyways, thank you for some relevant discussion.

Haha, that's right, but it actually means "Come here, Lira". If you want to say "Let's (g)", you can just say "Bora!"

By the way, sorry for the mess up the other day. I could swear you were in England
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Does this mean that Brazilian girls are even bigger sluts? I need to know this before deciding on going there for the World Cup.

We've got our fair share of sluts, and foreigners can get lucky quite easily compared to the locals, but we tend to think Americans are less prude than we are.


Posted by Lira on Dec-15-2010 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Adamo
every american I've met during my travels has done nothing but further enforce the stereotype of stupidity and blind patriotism. most places in america apart from like 2 states are god damn shitholes filled with morons. period.

but still, USA! USA! USA! WERE #1!...am i right?

Really!? All the Americans I've ever met were awesome!


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Haha, that's right, but it actually means "Come here, Lira". If you want to say "Let's (g)", you can just say "Bora!"


How different is Portuguese Portuguese than Brazilian Portuguese? I could have sworn he said it meant "Let's go"


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
you my friend are beyond any hope, and u TOTALLY helps keeping up the general understanding of americans. you my son are the very problem. ignorant teens thinking they are the center of the universe. fuck you. look what you did, just by letting me get to know you, i start to hate you.


There is no way you are a human being. There's just no way.


Posted by Meat187 on Dec-15-2010 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Americans are fat = If you are an American, then you are fat = All Americans are fat.


No.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:16:

Well they are.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-15-2010 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny Rogers
and just for clearance again. i dont hate americans. i just hate ignorance. ive met cool americans, usualy they are into oil and comes from texas, i love those.


I think you hate speaking intelligently on any topic, but that's just my 2 cents


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