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Posted by jonSun on Dec-18-2010 00:43:

Ahhh I get it. Seven billion to help hero's that put their life on the line for their country.. That means it's time to pick apart the bill & make excuses.

But when it's over a Trillion to invade a country & kill brown people, fuckin -A, yee haw, let's do it. fucking racist republicans


Posted by WhooCares on Dec-18-2010 00:58:

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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Mmm, the bullshit is strong with this one.



i dont know why but that made me giggle like a japanese school girl


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-18-2010 05:15:

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Originally posted by EddieZilker
One doesn't use large words like subrogate without having some fundamental understanding of what in the fuck they pertain to.


Whew, I feel better about having to Google it then.

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Now you'll love this, but the rich guy doesnt actually need the money right now because, well hes fucking rich! The recession wont force him to rummage trough trash bins to find food. Hes just home enjoying the rich life, having sex with his rich wife


The last person rich dudes bang is their wives.


Posted by Zharen on Dec-18-2010 05:55:

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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Mmm, the bullshit is strong with this one.

I'm neither Dem or Rep - I can't vote and have a deep understanding of not just the US political system but also various european systems.

What Republicans Voters fail to realise is that revenue has to come from somewhere, and some form of government is needed. You can't spend more AND cut taxes.

Now let's get real here - government spending went up under Bush. Hard. And by hard, I mean fucking scary.

But yet, while this was happening, taxs cuts were introduced by that very republican govt, and the Dems, being the pussies that they are, let it continue.

The money has to come from somewhere, and rep�ublicans, can't just trun around now and go "we need smaller govt and less spending" after they lapped it up for 8 long and very expensive years.

The tax cuts on the rich and super rich Directly benefited Bush's family and his friends. This is not a point of argument - it is cold hard plain fact, in the same way that Dick Cheyney personally made at least $5bn (at the most conservative estimates) from the Iraq war.

The tax revenue needs to come from somewhere, and cutting spending, with exception to defense (which is nothing more than welfare for private defense contractors), is not the answer - cutting tax breaks on those that make a lot of money is the sensible and fiscally responsible solution. It has been proven that trickle-down reaganomics did work, as so stunningly represented by the poverty gap and the massive recent increase in the wealth of the superrich, the poulation of the poor and the simultaneious shrinking of the middle income bracket.

Therfore suggesting taxes be raised 10% across the board does nothing to address the balance, which is the entire problem in the first place.

As Eddie has commented, there is no excuse for the Zadroga bill not to have been enacted other than protective politics. It is damn easy to to create a panel to oversee spending with incremental and baord supervised released of funds. And let's be honest here; 7.4bn is a drop in the ocean compared to the spending the last administration got signed off without anything in terms of substantiation.


This post makes way too much sense.


Posted by Moongoose on Dec-18-2010 09:12:

As if there was any doubt before among the reasonable among us, heres an actualy study to confirm what we have been saying for years

Fox News viewers are much more likely than others to believe false information about American politics, a new study concludes.

The study

quote:
However, while consumers of just about every news outlet believed some information that was false, the study found that Fox News viewers, regardless of political information, were "significantly more likely" to believe that:

--Most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely)
--Most economists have estimated the health care law will worsen the deficit (31 points)
--The economy is getting worse (26 points)
--Most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring (30 points)
--The stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts (14 points)
--Their own income taxes have gone up (14 points)
--The auto bailout only occurred under Obama (13 points)
--When TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it (12 points)
--And that it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States (31 points)

In addition, the study said, increased viewership of Fox News led to increased belief in these false stories.


So much for news then


Also, repubicans support (or at least cant be bothered to do anything against) child marriage. Good job you conservative family values guys.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-18-2010 09:47:

yep. what a bunch of fucking retards. this is the shit that makes me hate america...to the thread!


Posted by The17sss on Jan-07-2011 05:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
As if there was any doubt before among the reasonable among us, heres an actualy study to confirm what we have been saying for years

Fox News viewers are much more likely than others to believe false information about American politics, a new study concludes.

The study


So much for news then


Also, repubicans support (or at least cant be bothered to do anything against) child marriage. Good job you conservative family values guys.




How did I miss this post? "Here is an actual study to confirm....". OKAY. I'm almost embarrassed for you man. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Your beloved feel-good study "confirming" that Fox News viewers are ignorant and uninformed.... WAS FUNDED BY RADICAL SOCIALIST GEORGE SOROS. That's right- World Public Opinion.org is funded by the Tides Foundation which is propped up by millions of dollars annually of George Soros money. His money also funds Media Matters and several other media advocacy groups that put out a constant propaganda front on Fox News. Do some research instead of blindly falling off the cliff like a lemming.

You are what they call a "useful idiot" for the Left.

http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...ers-are-stupid/


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-07-2011 06:01:





Hey guys am I too late for the 5 o clock free crack giveawaY?!?!?!


Posted by WittyHandle on Jan-07-2011 06:01:

I think Mongoose is just young and idealistic. His heart's in the right place.


Posted by The17sss on Jan-07-2011 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by WittyHandle
I think Mongoose is just young and idealistic. His heart's in the right place.



Yeah... I actually like the guy when off politics; he's probably cool to hang out with. Just wish he wasn't so reactionary towards me before doing some actual research.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jan-07-2011 07:29:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss


How did I miss this post? "Here is an actual study to confirm....". OKAY. I'm almost embarrassed for you man. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Your beloved feel-good study "confirming" that Fox News viewers are ignorant and uninformed.... WAS FUNDED BY RADICAL SOCIALIST GEORGE SOROS. That's right- World Public Opinion.org is funded by the Tides Foundation which is propped up by millions of dollars annually of George Soros money. His money also funds Media Matters and several other media advocacy groups that put out a constant propaganda front on Fox News. Do some research instead of blindly falling off the cliff like a lemming.

You are what they call a "useful idiot" for the Left.

http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...ers-are-stupid/


You have officially crossed the hipster event horizon.









You simply cannot get irony this potent without freebasing it.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-07-2011 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss


How did I miss this post? "Here is an actual study to confirm....". OKAY. I'm almost embarrassed for you man. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Your beloved feel-good study "confirming" that Fox News viewers are ignorant and uninformed.... WAS FUNDED BY RADICAL SOCIALIST GEORGE SOROS. That's right- World Public Opinion.org is funded by the Tides Foundation which is propped up by millions of dollars annually of George Soros money. His money also funds Media Matters and several other media advocacy groups that put out a constant propaganda front on Fox News. Do some research instead of blindly falling off the cliff like a lemming.

You are what they call a "useful idiot" for the Left.

http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...ers-are-stupid/


i dont need a study to tell me that watching fox news is likely to mean you're uninformed and probably stupid. i just need to have seen an episode of the show.


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-07-2011 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
You have officially crossed the hipster event horizon.









You simply cannot get irony this potent without freebasing it.



Posted by Moongoose on Jan-08-2011 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
blah blah ...RADICAL SOCIALIST...jada jada jada





quote:
Originally posted by The17sss


How did I miss this post? "Here is an actual study to confirm....". OKAY. I'm almost embarrassed for you man. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Your beloved feel-good study "confirming" that Fox News viewers are ignorant and uninformed.... WAS FUNDED BY RADICAL SOCIALIST GEORGE SOROS. That's right- World Public Opinion.org is funded by the Tides Foundation which is propped up by millions of dollars annually of George Soros money. His money also funds Media Matters and several other media advocacy groups that put out a constant propaganda front on Fox News. Do some research instead of blindly falling off the cliff like a lemming.

You are what they call a "useful idiot" for the Left.

http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...ers-are-stupid/


But seriously, now youre just chanelling Glen Beck you know, he does this circus act where he accuses Soros of everything short of 9/11 because, well everyone knows that the jews did that...wait Soros is a jew? Well that certainly explains it then. Dirty old liberal jew, putting together foundations, doesnt he know that conservatives can do that! (want a list of conservative foundations with an agenda btw? Can only name a dozen or two off the top of my head but if i do the research i might come up with a few more)

Also, i actually did some research which is why i can claim that fox news is a wholly owned subsidiary of the republican party (or vice versa, you cant really tell after the last election). I know you dont listen to me, but if i keep telling you that faux news has a strong conservative/business bias, the rest of the board keeps telling you keep telling you that faux news has a strong conservative/business bias, 150 million americans keep telling you that faux news has a strong conservative/business bias and the whole rest of the world keep telling you that faux news has a strong conservative/business bias then something must be up. You say i need to d0o some research. I did. How about you. Did you do any research or are you just blindly following faux?




P.S
Im totally cool to hang out with, im sure if we were to hang out we would have a blast...unless of course the topic of politics were to comd up in which case we would probably end up fighting eachother and since youre a conservative theres a better than average chance that you would end up shooting me


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-08-2011 22:17:

Can someone please explain to me how one of the richest men on earth, and possibly one of the largest currency speculators in history, is "A RADICAL SOCIALIST"?

Also, let's end the Fox bias debate, right here, right now, for ever:

Fox's founder and president, Roger Ailes, was for decades one of the savviest and most pugnacious Republican political operatives in Washington, a veteran of the Nixon and Reagan campaigns. Ailes is most famous for his role in crafting the elder Bush's media strategy in the bruising 1988 presidential race.

Murdoch, the owner of Fox news, also happens to own nearly every right wing newspaper and tabloid in the UK, as well as many other (self acknowledged) right wing or ultra conservative media outlets. IN fact when he bought the Times, there was a very serious threat from the UK media watchdogs, to the point he is not allowed any editorial control over the paper, so it remains centrist or partisan, something the partisan media watchdogs were concerned enough to go to court over judging his track record.

Finally, it is estimated that 80% of all the employees at Fox are republican. 5 our of 5 of their "celebrity anchors" (palin etc) are potential 2012 candidates which is going to leave Fox in a lot of trouble come the 2012 elections as no active candidate is actually allowed to work for fox while running for office.

Now, let's just agree that it is a Right wing, conservative republican mouth piece in the same way that Bill Maher admits that he's a liberal or Glen Beck admits he's a republican.


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