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Posted by tehlord on Jan-17-2011 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
try something else than cubase
Reason is a great noob program, cubase is a little more pro and might not work for you, as u are a noob.


cubase is easy

it's the one I chose when I was a noob, because it's easy


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-17-2011 12:38:

i couldnt make a single sound out of it first time i tried it lol. but it might have changed since 98 lol.


Posted by tehlord on Jan-17-2011 12:44:

quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
i couldnt make a single sound out of it first time i tried it lol. but it might have changed since 98 lol.


Yeah, but you were about 7 then.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-17-2011 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by djxposure
My question is purely, how can i create something that has the same value of the big name dj's/ prducers - Avicii, gareth emery, SHM?


How could one possibly answer a question like this?

You have endless work ahead of yourself. Read/watch 100s of more online tutorials to start.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-17-2011 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Yeah, but you were about 7 then.

+10 and your almost right


Posted by djxposure on Jan-17-2011 18:25:

if im honest guys, i seem to be getting a negative vibe with 99% of the answers here. Im not looking for a wisdom talk on how ill be old and grey before i can make something worth releasing. I dont believe in that. I read that on Gareth Emery's road to fame, he created a mix for Armin over the course of 2 weeks whilst on holiday purely on his laptop, which was a huge hit with Armins fans, all over the world.

With that in mind, i believe that my only set back, is converting ideas to notes and beats. I have alot of time on my hands at the moment, so spending most my days on my editor. Im very eagar to progress so rather than saying 'see you in 10 years', or welcome to hell, why not point me off in the right direction?

Yes, i am a 'noob' in the producers scene, but i know my music, and my DJing, so i dont see why i cant pick up a few tips and tricks that will help me achieve my desired results.


Posted by Mise on Jan-17-2011 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ken_lee
most soundcards have midi too, get yourself a decent one. Or you can get yourself a midicontroller/keyboard with USB and forget about that old MIDI-technology.


Buy a Midi in/out to USB converter.


You could post your last project in the MPP, it would be easy to know how far you are from those artist and help you to start to improve your stuff.


Posted by djxposure on Jan-17-2011 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Mise
Buy a Midi in/out to USB converter.


You could post your last project in the MPP, it would be easy to know how far you are from those artist and help you to start to improve your stuff.


cheers. thats what ive been looking at. Theres some pretty cheap ones going on ebay


Posted by Lucidity on Jan-17-2011 19:08:

The 3 biggest things that helped me to get started on making tracks was, TA, Youtube, and Computer Music magazine http://www.musicradar.com/computermusic , the magazine helps to teach you all aspects of learning to make music on your pc. Its not always the music you want to produce that they show. but, the idea's and concepts are the same through-out production. I can't tell you how much CM helped me out. And youtube man, it has everything you could ever need. Anything you can think of, someone has posted a video about it. Check out TA's sticky threads, alot of useful info there. Just research man and you will get there.


Posted by djxposure on Jan-17-2011 19:33:

buying a copy as i type


Posted by floyd741 on Jan-17-2011 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by djxposure
why not point me off in the right direction?

Because the right direction is: stop complaining on the internet, sit your ass down, work on a song.

If it sucks, try again. If it still sucks, try again. If it still sucks the third time, try again. If after one year you don't think you're good enough, try again. If after two years you still don't feel you're good, try again. Eventually, you'll do something and think "Hey... wait... I like this! I'm getting somewhere!" Some people get there sooner than others, that's not a big deal. But you can't just skip all the work. Sure, there are tutorials that will show you various techniques that will help give you that "bigger" sound you want, but in my honest opinion they are all worthless. Actually, you might not want to take me seriously on that since in two years I've progressed to a point that most people achieve in less than 6 months.

But that's not that point!

The point is that tutorials and templates will only get you so far, most of what you will learn will come from twiddling some knobs and realizing that when you do this fancy maneuver, everything sounds a little better. Like everyone has said, it will take a while, but so does everything else in life. Very few people can lay their hands on a musical instrument for the first time and be good at it.


Posted by djxposure on Jan-17-2011 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
Because the right direction is: stop complaining on the internet, sit your ass down, work on a song.

If it sucks, try again. If it still sucks, try again. If it still sucks the third time, try again. If after one year you don't think you're good enough, try again. If after two years you still don't feel you're good, try again. Eventually, you'll do something and think "Hey... wait... I like this! I'm getting somewhere!" Some people get there sooner than others, that's not a big deal. But you can't just skip all the work. Sure, there are tutorials that will show you various techniques that will help give you that "bigger" sound you want, but in my honest opinion they are all worthless. Actually, you might not want to take me seriously on that since in two years I've progressed to a point that most people achieve in less than 6 months.

But that's not that point!

The point is that tutorials and templates will only get you so far, most of what you will learn will come from twiddling some knobs and realizing that when you do this fancy maneuver, everything sounds a little better. Like everyone has said, it will take a while, but so does everything else in life. Very few people can lay their hands on a musical instrument for the first time and be good at it.


Roger that


Posted by Beatflux on Jan-17-2011 20:17:

Get the Dance Music Manual Vol. 2. It's required reading for the newbie.


Posted by Mise on Jan-17-2011 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
Get the Dance Music Manual Vol. 2. It's required reading for the newbie.


Btw, Does anyone got Rick Snoman email adress?


Posted by Prototrance on Jan-19-2011 10:00:

quote:
Originally posted by djxposure
funny guys, but still no further forward.


Tehlord is right, I've been at this 14 years, still not happy. Welcome to hell indeed.

So whats your take on analog vs digital??

(sorry guys.... he needs preparing though, it would happen sooner or later.....)


Posted by tehlord on Jan-19-2011 10:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Prototrance
Tehlord is right, I've been at this 14 years, still not happy. Welcome to hell indeed.



Just took a listen to your Cloud to see what 14 years sounds like.

Nice stuff


Posted by Storyteller on Jan-19-2011 10:49:

quote:
Originally posted by djxposure
if im honest guys, i seem to be getting a negative vibe with 99% of the answers here. Im not looking for a wisdom talk on how ill be old and grey before i can make something worth releasing. I dont believe in that. I read that on Gareth Emery's road to fame, he created a mix for Armin over the course of 2 weeks whilst on holiday purely on his laptop, which was a huge hit with Armins fans, all over the world.


Yes, and how long was he producing before this moment arrived? I'd guess it's well over a few years before he struck gold.

Edit: And yes, wikipedia tells me I'm right.


Posted by Prototrance on Jan-19-2011 12:05:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Just took a listen to your Cloud to see what 14 years sounds like.

Nice stuff


Thanks mate


Posted by Rodri Santos on Jan-19-2011 16:29:

i feel day by day i am better at least technically, this is the only thing that keeps you on production but welcome to a world of frustration. Chances are:

1) People will love it, and the problem is that you'll probably pass down without having created a hit, you will be Mr. Nobody for 99% of the people.

2) People won't like it, this is less frequent, people usually like new stuff at least in my case, but as i've said only hits change the game.

3) Labels won't like it, frequent, they're so picky and at the same time they sign variated shit. Mainly they look for well produced and simple tracks, if it's either badly produced or too complex they will reject it. It's not the first time i receive an answer like "Make it more simple"

So in the end you'll probably think. Why i'm producing?? Try to enjoy what you do, ocasionally receive some support and keep trying, all the artists you listed were Mr Nobody yesterday and today are big stars.


Posted by Raphie on Jan-19-2011 16:36:

Exactly, why am i producing? just because I CAN
if people like it? perfect
if they don't like it? also perfect, i'll share anyway


Posted by tehlord on Jan-19-2011 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Exactly, why am i producing? just because I CAN
if people like it? perfect
if they don't like it? They're ghey




Much better


Posted by Storyteller on Jan-19-2011 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Exactly, why am i producing? just because I CAN
if people like it? perfect
if they don't like it? They're ghey

Much better


I can't believe Raphie just said that.


Posted by tehlord on Jan-19-2011 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Much better


I can't believe Raphie just said that. [/QUOTE]

I'm know. He's definately gheyist.


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