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Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-19-2011 01:33:

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Coleman says he had a heated exchange with the officers when the police wanted to search him for drugs. Coleman, a six-foot-tall man with long hair tied in a ponytail and gold hoop earrings, says he believes police targeted him due to his looks.


Well there ya go lady... If you're in a foreign country and fuck with the police... you'll get fucked. Duh.


Posted by NeroFlash on Jan-19-2011 02:09:

Richard Coleman says a police officer stole his BlackBerry, then used it to change his Messenger status to 'deceased' and also posted a Facebook status update that read, 'I bite and kick my wife.' (Stephen Puddicombe/CBC)
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2011...h#ixzz1BRVL2RuX

Been going to Playa for 7 years every years, I have never feel unsafe around Mexican police. I have been stop by them before driving and they definitely do not speak nor write English phrase like: 'I bite and kick my wife.'


Posted by geroin on Jan-19-2011 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by NeroFlash
Richard Coleman says a police officer stole his BlackBerry, then used it to change his Messenger status to 'deceased' and also posted a Facebook status update that read, 'I bite and kick my wife.' (Stephen Puddicombe/CBC)
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2011...h#ixzz1BRVL2RuX

Been going to Playa for 7 years every years, I have never feel unsafe around Mexican police. I have been stop by them before driving and they definitely do not speak nor write English phrase like: 'I bite and kick my wife.'


my parents rented a car in mexico and got lost on the way back from mayan ruins, they pulled over to ask a police officer where to go, he was using hand gestures, not even 1 word in english.


Posted by shanny on Jan-19-2011 04:10:

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Originally posted by spitty
Once you survive mexico, Turkey is a cakewalk...all those turkish rapists don't stand a chance against those experienced tourists!


Survive Turkey and then you can move on to Tanzania!
Sounds like one hell of a trip.


Posted by Mach X on Jan-19-2011 06:42:

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Originally posted by chinamon
those cops have absolutely no taste.



Posted by jester on Jan-19-2011 17:32:

Some dude from B.C was shot in the leg, while he was with his wife in some part of Mexico.


Posted by Spin Laden on Jan-19-2011 17:46:

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Originally posted by jester
Some dude from B.C was shot in the leg, while he was with his wife in some part of Mexico.


http://www.theprovince.com/news/sho...1943/story.html


Posted by nantez on Jan-19-2011 19:16:

Let's be honest, Mexican Police are some of the most corrupt in the world. I've had and heard of altercations over the years that almost always resulted in something sketchy happening and having to pay them off to piss off.

As for this couple, they were obviously smashed and belligerent. They started a scene, number 1, which was clearly avoidable. Then argued with MEXICAN police?! This quote from the MSN Canada article (http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/...mentid=27292039) really exposes the kind of person this Coleman is:

"But I believe when dealing with a police officer that is overstepping his authority. I believe it is incumbent on me to point it out to them, even if it means I am going to have to deal with some charges afterwards."

A few things really stick out to me:

1. "Overstepping his authority". You're in Mexico and somehow you think what this officer is doing is 'overstepping' his authority. These are not Toronto Police, they aren't RCMP, they're MEXICAN police officers. Their 'authority' in this particular situation knows no bounds.

2. "I believe it is incumbent on me to point it out to them, even if it means I am going to have to deal with some charges afterwards". I happen to relate to this statement quite a bit. I used to have this outlook on authority back when I sported a Rancid shirt, mohawk and 16-hole doc martens; and it landed me in jail on multiple occasions. Fortunately I NEVER took this attitude to MEXICO with me, or I'm fairly sure I'd be in jail or dead right now.

As for Rutland, I'm sure whatever happened in jail was terrible and sketchy. I feel bad for her having to go through this experience, whatever it might have been. Why she didn't feel it was necessary to report it immediately, I'm not entirely sure. But what is the point now?? You're not gonna go anywhere in Mexico with it, and all you'll get here is your face on the news; which I'm actually very surprised to see as you were a RAPE victim.

But seriously, and again let's be honest people, don't start shit with Mexican police. You are not in Canada. You essentially don't have any rights. You MUST respect authority figures when you're visiting another country, or you're almost guaranteed to have one awful experience... smarten up tards...



just my 2 cents...


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-19-2011 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by nantez
"But I believe when dealing with a police officer that is overstepping his authority. I believe it is incumbent on me to point it out to them, even if it means I am going to have to deal with some charges afterwards."


Congrats smartass, you just got your wife raped.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-19-2011 21:28:

i heard that a bunch of people got beaten at the G20 in canada by cops just for expressing their free speech. I also heard that cops in canada arrested hundreds of people, put them in cages and then let them go without charge. I also heard that cops tasered a polish guy in canada right inside the airport and he died. I also heard that cops raided some club in canada and injured people. I also heard that cops in canada kicked some guy in the face unprovoked and that this was caught on film.

If i were you, i wouldnt go to canada.


Posted by nantez on Jan-19-2011 21:37:

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Originally posted by Jayx1
i heard that a bunch of people got beaten at the G20 in canada by cops just for expressing their free speech. I also heard that cops in canada arrested hundreds of people, put them in cages and then let them go without charge. I also heard that cops tasered a polish guy in canada right inside the airport and he died. I also heard that cops raided some club in canada and injured people. I also heard that cops in canada kicked some guy in the face unprovoked and that this was caught on film.

If i were you, i wouldnt go to canada.



Well, big difference between Canada and Mexico. Cops in Canada face heavy prosecution for breaking the law. Whether they were found guilty in all these above cases is another issue, but the fact is we all know our rights in Canada, some of us know them very well. If we make a claim we were assaulted or there was wrongdoing by police here in Canada, and your case has strong basis, there is proper and due process. Mexico not so much...

I was assaulted by a bouncer while 3 cops watched; then thrown in jail by another cop for asking for his badge number. I fought this case and with witnesses present at the trial, won.

I'm highly doubtful this case would have had legs in Mexico


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-19-2011 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by nantez
Well, big difference between Canada and Mexico. Cops in Canada face heavy prosecution for breaking the law. Whether they were found guilty in all these above cases is another issue, but the fact is we all know our rights in Canada, some of us know them very well. If we make a claim we were assaulted or there was wrongdoing by police here in Canada, and your case has strong basis, there is proper and due process. Mexico not so much...

I was assaulted by a bouncer while 3 cops watched; then thrown in jail by another cop for asking for his badge number. I fought this case and with witnesses present at the trial, won.

I'm highly doubtful this case would have had legs in Mexico


You didnt quite catch the point. My point is that as much as we drone on about mexico, outsiders could say the same thing about our cops based on some of the stories coming out of here. I dont intend to defend mexican cops. But perhaps we should look after our own house. As for due process, im pretty sure that in most cases above, no cops were charged or convicted. Of the thousands of incidents at G20, the SIU said that there was not enough evidence to charge any cops (they all had their badge numbers and faces hidden). Only when the star made a big deal a few weeks ago did the SIU open an investigation.

im glad you won your case but your victory is a rare one. Esp in light of the abuse that takes place daily.

Often the difference between canada and mexico is that here, corruption is better hidden behind walls of regulation and bureaucracy. In Mexico its very open and street level.


Posted by nantez on Jan-19-2011 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
You didnt quite catch the point. My point is that as much as we drone on about mexico, outsiders could say the same thing about our cops based on some of the stories coming out of here. I dont intend to defend mexican cops. But perhaps we should look after our own house. As for due process, im pretty sure that in most cases above, no cops were charged or convicted. Of the thousands of incidents at G20, the SIU said that there was not enough evidence to charge any cops (they all had their badge numbers and faces hidden). Only when the star made a big deal a few weeks ago did the SIU open an investigation.

im glad you won your case but your victory is a rare one. Esp in light of the abuse that takes place daily.

Often the difference between canada and mexico is that here, corruption is better hidden behind walls of regulation and bureaucracy. In Mexico its very open and street level.


All points agreed... although I don't think there can be any debate over who is more corrupt. Mexican police will take a payoff probably 99% of the time ... lol


Posted by djozzy on Jan-20-2011 00:46:

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Originally posted by spitty
Once you survive mexico, Turkey is a cakewalk...all those turkish rapists don't stand a chance against those experienced tourists!


Here is some facts

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-20-2011 00:58:

This is the more accurate chart. Per capita is the real picture:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/c...apes-per-capita


Posted by djozzy on Jan-20-2011 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This is the more accurate chart. Per capita is the real picture:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/c...apes-per-capita


That even worst for us i guess. We pass USA. Us i mean Canada. I am also from Turkey, way down on that list.


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-20-2011 01:31:

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Originally posted by Jayx1
This is the more accurate chart. Per capita is the real picture:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/c...apes-per-capita


Yeah, those are *reported* cases. It's probably safe to say that both charts are incredibly inaccurate, given that most rape cases in countries with lower education standards/higher rates of corruption are rarely reported.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-20-2011 01:35:

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Originally posted by PivotTechno
Yeah, those are *reported* cases. It's probably safe to say that both charts are incredibly inaccurate, given that most rape cases in countries with higher rates of corruption are rarely reported.


thats true. This is why crime in canada is supposedly going down when in reality its probably going way up. Its just that a lot of people dont bother to report it anymore since they are too used to it.


Posted by jester on Jan-20-2011 02:53:

Women should just walk around with this, just incase they think they will be raped...



Have fun importing them from South Africa.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jan-20-2011 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
Women should just walk around with this, just incase they think they will be raped...



Have fun importing them from South Africa.


Is that one of those things where the guy tries to rape the girl and then when he pulls his penis out it locks onto his wang with spikes and he has to go to a hospital to get it removed? That would work...except now you just royally pissed off your rapist and he'll more than likely kill you on the spot.


Posted by spitty on Jan-20-2011 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
This is the more accurate chart. Per capita is the real picture:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/c...apes-per-capita



number five! sweet...i don't even need to leave my country for a good time


Posted by geroin on Jan-20-2011 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by spitty
number five! sweet...i don't even need to leave my country for a good time



Posted by jester on Jan-20-2011 03:32:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Is that one of those things where the guy tries to rape the girl and then when he pulls his penis out it locks onto his wang with spikes and he has to go to a hospital to get it removed? That would work...except now you just royally pissed off your rapist and he'll more than likely kill you on the spot.



Posted by Adam420 on Jan-20-2011 03:35:

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Originally posted by Jayx1
This is the more accurate chart. Per capita is the real picture:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/c...apes-per-capita


I feel like as far as the countries on that list are concerned, the further down you go, the less likely it is for rape cases to be reported in them.


Posted by Adam420 on Jan-20-2011 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Is that one of those things where the guy tries to rape the girl and then when he pulls his penis out it locks onto his wang with spikes and he has to go to a hospital to get it removed? That would work...except now you just royally pissed off your rapist and he'll more than likely kill you on the spot.


I'm thinking he has a much more pressing issue to deal with


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