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Posted by music2dance2 on Feb-07-2011 22:11:

Indeed, what ever works, works. If he didnt tell anyone who would know or even care, as long as the end result is good.


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 06:24:

I use Reason and Record mostly.

Like Armin VanBuuren has said, it's important to master something instead of using 20 different tools.

Inteview with Armin VanBuuren in Sound on Sound. Talks a lot about production.

You have to build things with the various modules in Reason and Record. It's taught me a lot. Where as many other pieces of software and synths focus on presets.

There are some great Refills out there, and many DAWs support Propellerhead's REX format for loops.

Have a cut down version of Ableton (one of those Lite versions), but I have not felt compelled to get the full version at this time.


Posted by MSZ on Feb-08-2011 06:31:

they use sonic producer bro... trust.

http://www.sonicproducer.com/?hop=valii


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-08-2011 06:58:

I see a lot of people on this forum talk about Armin van Buuren as a producer. I have never seen him as much of a producer. He is a Label moghul first, DJ second, producer third.

In fact, ironically, almost none of the big DJs are amazing producers, in the league as DJ Eco, Joris van Deynhoven, Bart Claessen, Rafael Frost, ect.


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 07:07:

Behold, the power of loops and being able to hire other people!

(No offense to them)


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 07:22:

Caleb, doesn't Deadmau5 have a war with DJ eco or something?

What is Deadmau5 considered? He's not really a DJ.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-08-2011 07:37:

Not sure about that one mate.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Feb-08-2011 08:13:

CalebGolston is from TEXAS.
Howdy partner!


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 08:17:

King

Don't mess with Texas.

It will kick your ass and call you Shirley while providing Southern Hospitality.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Feb-08-2011 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by arskinetica
Don't mess with Texas.

It will kick your ass and call you Shirley while providing Southern Hospitality.


you know it bro.


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 08:30:

In Minnesota, we'd just hate you and pretend to be nice about it.

Offer you some lutefisk or lefse, or something from Ikea.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Feb-08-2011 08:38:

quote:
Originally posted by arskinetica
In Minnesota, we'd just hate you and pretend to be nice about it.

Offer you some lutefisk or lefse, or something from Ikea.

lol
plz don't be a hater bro.
It's a small world.


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 08:46:

I apologize. I wasn't trying to be mean.

Just lampooning where I come from.

We have a tendency to not be as direct as people on the coasts.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Feb-08-2011 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by arskinetica
I apologize. I wasn't trying to be mean.

Just lampooning where I come from.

We have a tendency to not be as direct as people on the coasts.

all good, did not bug me, i have other things on my mind.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-08-2011 17:25:

I'm Norwegian-American so that stuff isn't new to me.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Feb-08-2011 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by arskinetica
Caleb, doesn't Deadmau5 have a war with DJ eco or something?

What is Deadmau5 considered? He's not really a DJ.


Deadmau5 is in war with Marcus Schossow same as PvD is with ATB (read this last part fast three times without missing)


Posted by music2dance2 on Feb-08-2011 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by CalebGolston
I see a lot of people on this forum talk about Armin van Buuren as a producer. I have never seen him as much of a producer. He is a Label moghul first, DJ second, producer third.

In fact, ironically, almost none of the big DJs are amazing producers, in the league as DJ Eco, Joris van Deynhoven, Bart Claessen, Rafael Frost, ect.


Now I guess he is but that is a progression most people take. His big productions in the past still give him that status of being a producer I believe. Its what he is well known for despite the huge success of the label/dj side of things


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Feb-08-2011 21:07:

I use logic


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-08-2011 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
Now I guess he is but that is a progression most people take. His big productions in the past still give him that status of being a producer I believe. Its what he is well known for despite the huge success of the label/dj side of things


Yes, good point. However, I have studied the paths of several of the top DJs and I think Armin van Buuren is where he is because of one massive innovation: a weekly trance radio show (not his productions or live gigs). I think he was also the first DJ to really get a big internet following.

Earlier than that, it seemed that DJs could become DJs without being a producer, such as John Digweed, Sasha, Carl Cox, Pete Tong, Tall Paul, ect. All of those guys were huge way before they put out top notch songs. Even Oakenfold to an extent became a good producer later.

NOW, it is impossible to become a DJ if you are not a producer first. And this always strikes me as funny, because the 2 are unrelated to me. A good DJ is about an ear for good music first (the tracklist) the programming second (good intro, middle, end) and somewhere down the line technical ability is nice. To me perfectly mixing the beatport top ten is not being a DJ. My theory to why you can't DJ unless you produce, is that it is a Harvesting Effect. It is way easier to be a good DJ than good Producer.

Just my thoughts.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Feb-08-2011 21:51:

They are not completely unrelated. Most musicians tend to be better composers for the mere fact that they are immersed in music. A good producer has the potential to be a better dj. A better dj has the potential to be a better producer.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Feb-08-2011 21:53:

i have noticed you understand better the music you play when you start to produce, and when producing you know which will fill the dancefloor and which not, also you learn to make good dj friendly versions, you are the first punished by your ineptitude


Posted by arskinetica on Feb-08-2011 21:57:

It seems these days though, you can't just be a composer any more.

You to do a bit of everything.

Produce, market, etc.


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-08-2011 22:02:

I think in theory they would be related, but I don't see much evidence of it in sets.

Also, I tend to believe in largely leaving tracks alone and making a good song first in a basic electronic format (4 parts, 4/4 time) and letting the music do the talking. For instance, there aren't many 10-12 minute songs like there used to be. The producer should make the individual song a complete journey rather making it to fill 3 minutes of a set and design it into the context of a set (because how many recent sets have taken you on a journey?). An example I can give is BT - Flaming June (PVD Remix) or Netherworld 2005, these songs stand alone. If a song stands alone, I think it will do fine in a set. That is just my take.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Feb-08-2011 22:02:

You can but you have to think outside of beat port. All the main pop acts are really starting to make straight out EDM . Just heard usher's new track and it is electro house with little compromise in terms of it being an EDM and pop song unlike the earlier stuff that was EDM ish but not quite. If you are a decent producer , there is a lot of money to be made right now and probably the next 2 years


Posted by Trancelover03591 on Feb-08-2011 22:04:

I don't blame producers for producing pop or 'easy' money tracks. I would too.


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