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Originally posted by DJ_Elyot The transition at 26:40 is something he did at Guv as well... he mixed out of "Found A Way" right before the final climax. This made me SOOO FUCKING MAD. "Found A Way" is the only track in that entire video clip that has both a chord progression and a kick drum playing at the same time, and he still manages to fuck it up and replace the climax with BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. Yeah, JOC's style and I DO NOT GET ALONG. FUUUUUUUUCK.

Yeah, nowhere near enough unicorns in his sets...

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Yeah, nowhere near enough unicorns in his sets...

Don't get me wrong; I love J00F-trance and darker stuff, at many times preferring it over Armin cheese. I think having a distaste for repetitive and monotonous tech-trance is quite independent from unicorns.

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Originally posted by DJ_Elyot Don't get me wrong; I love J00F-trance and darker stuff, at many times preferring it over Armin cheese. I think having a distaste for repetitive and monotonous tech-trance is quite independent from unicorns.

My biggest complaint about JoC is his lack of energy behind the decks. I hate going to shows and seeing someone just kind of nodding his head a little bit and looking like he's not really putting much into it.

Check out Christopher Lawrence Live @ Pacha Buenos Aires from September 2010. Now that's a good set.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 My biggest complaint about JoC is his lack of energy behind the decks. I hate going to shows and seeing someone just kind of nodding his head a little bit and looking like he's not really putting much into it. Check out Christopher Lawrence Live @ Pacha Buenos Aires from September 2010. Now that's a good set.

So you think a DJ grooving and having fun with the music they're playing (even if the music itself is not great) can help with the set? I'm not arguing with you...it's just interesting you bring this up. I notice A LOT of DJs (Digweed for example) who barely do anything behind the decks and I wonder if there was more interactivity if it would make the set itself better

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Originally posted by Nobbie Q So you think a DJ grooving and having fun with the music they're playing (even if the music itself is not great) can help with the set? I'm not arguing with you...it's just interesting you bring this up. I notice A LOT of DJs (Digweed for example) who barely do anything behind the decks and I wonder if there was more interactivity if it would make the set itself better

If the DJ is good enough i don't think it is necessary. However DJ'ing aside, I think if you see anyone performing any form of art and enjoying themselves...it does add a new dimension to the experience.

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Originally posted by DJ_Elyot I really hated JOC's set at contact at guv last year. Every track was BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM, no harmony, no chord progression. The only melodic bits were in the breakdowns. He even played amelodic remixes of melodic classics. I was sooooo sad when he dropped an "As The Rush Comes" remix which was really just the vocal played over top of a kickdrum and an amelodic tribal bassline. His set was disappointment after disappointment. Every time a track showed promise of having a good melody, it would turn straight into BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM with no melody or chord progression. The only track I enjoyed all night was "Found A Way". I know that some people like the "disappointment-trance" style, but I find it incredibly sad and frustrating to listen to. I'll probably give him another chance at Beta, but if he plays like that again, I'll just leave. JOC at Guv was the most disappointing set of 2010 for me. Glenn Morrison, however, is well worth my $5. ^_^

I will agree to disagree. I like JOC because he bangs it out uncompromisingly. Yeah there are long and drawn out buildups but it all honesty it comes with the genre. They don't call it Trance for shits and giggles. When I go to see a DJ like JOC, I know exactly what I am going in for and he delivers everytime.

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Originally posted by samhouse If the DJ is good enough i don't think it is necessary. However DJ'ing aside, I think if you see anyone performing any form of art and enjoying themselves...it does add a new dimension to the experience.

Like this!

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Originally posted by Nobbie Q So you think a DJ grooving and having fun with the music they're playing (even if the music itself is not great) can help with the set? I'm not arguing with you...it's just interesting you bring this up. I notice A LOT of DJs (Digweed for example) who barely do anything behind the decks and I wonder if there was more interactivity if it would make the set itself better

I notice the growing trend of people wanting DJs to be clowns on the decks.

To me, what the DJ is doing has to be natural. Too many DJs look like they are forced to do jesus pose or doing a jig or whatever because they feel it's what the crowd expects them to do.

Just because a DJ is looking serious on the decks, it doesn't mean he's having a bad time. It could mean he's too busy concentrating on picking the next tune, or whatever.

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Originally posted by GGM Like this!

How Ironic you post this in a Beta thread lol

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Originally posted by Yohan I notice the growing trend of people wanting DJs to be clowns on the decks. To me, what the DJ is doing has to be natural. Too many DJs look like they are forced to do jesus pose or doing a jig or whatever because they feel it's what the crowd expects them to do. Just because a DJ is looking serious on the decks, it doesn't mean he's having a bad time. It could mean he's too busy concentrating on picking the next tune, or whatever.

I agree with you. Djs shouldn't do poses or what not as that looks so contrived, but i think if they look like they're having genuine fun then more ppl would be encouraged to dance. This is interesting because at my last gig at a small bar in 'sauga I was just nodding my head and more concentrating on what I'm doing. It was also my third ever live gig a well so i'm still not totally comfy playing live. But as soon as I got on the mic a few times, ppl cheered and got more excited. I was opening so I don't expect ppl to b dancing but it's interesting see this response. I makes me also wonder that maybe this is why the likes Swedish house mafia are so big, because they do come on the mic a lot and dance around. I understand this Dutch house stuff is huge but I also think the interactivity helps out.

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Originally posted by Nobbie Q I understand this Dutch house stuff is huge but I also think the interactivity helps out.

The Dutch House guys are what I thought of when this topic comes up. even if you don't like their tunes they're great at getting into the music and embracing the crowd. Dear god though Chuckie and that mic, talk about overdoing it. Anyone who saw him at Spin last Nov knows what I'm talking about...

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Originally posted by Ozm�zis How Ironic you post this in a Beta thread lol

Why so, I think I'm missing something?

In terms of dancing DJs you can't beat this guy. But man anyone who watches this guy without going WTF at least a couple times is not normal...

I thought people went out to listen to music and dance...not sit there and watch the DJ....silly me

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I thought people went out to listen to music and dance...not sit there and watch the DJ....silly me

they do listen to the music obviously, but virtually everyone in the crowd be it Guvernment or the electric daisy festival, all face the dj if he/she is semi popular. But yeah otherwise at top 40 clubs or if a no name dj is playing, then they normally don't face the dj.

I guess the dj is the new rock star and ppl expect some sort of interaction. Like even the djs that barely interact...as soon as they lookup to the crowd an start clapping or do something ppl start cheering/dancing harder

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Originally posted by DJ_Elyot Don't get me wrong; I love J00F-trance and darker stuff, at many times preferring it over Armin cheese. I think having a distaste for repetitive and monotonous tech-trance is quite independent from unicorns.

you must be one boring person. holy over analyze everything

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Originally posted by Yohan I notice the growing trend of people wanting DJs to be clowns on the decks. To me, what the DJ is doing has to be natural. Too many DJs look like they are forced to do jesus pose or doing a jig or whatever because they feel it's what the crowd expects them to do. Just because a DJ is looking serious on the decks, it doesn't mean he's having a bad time. It could mean he's too busy concentrating on picking the next tune, or whatever.

I'm not talking about the Armin jesus pose or anything like that. I'm just saying when it looks like the DJ is having a good time, it definitely adds something imo. I've seen Digweed sets where he didn't smile the entire time, not once. That doesn't mean his set suffered, quite the contrary, but if he had looked like he was enjoying himself (smiling, dancing, bobbing with the music etc.) it would have been even more enjoyable.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I thought people went out to listen to music and dance...not sit there and watch the DJ....silly me

If you went to a rock concert, would you not watch the band perform? Silly you indeed.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 If you went to a rock concert, would you not watch the band perform? Silly you indeed.

I can't think of the last rock concert I went to where there was people even dancing.

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Originally posted by GGM The Dutch House guys are what I thought of when this topic comes up. even if you don't like their tunes they're great at getting into the music and embracing the crowd. Dear god though Chuckie and that mic, talk about overdoing it. Anyone who saw him at Spin last Nov knows what I'm talking about...

That entire set was a trainwreck. The mic screaming definitely didn't help, but I was honestly really disappointed by the entire thing.

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Originally posted by Nobbie Q But as soon as I got on the mic a few times

Tip: Don't ever, ever, do that again. Nobody came to hear your voice.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I can't think of the last rock concert I went to where there was people even dancing.

Regardless, I guess yeah maybe who is playing the music or where it's coming from doesn't matter to some people but someone is still performing. I like to at least watch what they're doing.

It is possible to look at the DJ whilst dancing, mind you.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Tip: Don't ever, ever, do that again. Nobody came to hear your voice.

Well I just said a few things, it's not like I was talking nonstop. It's okay to get the crowd hyped

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Originally posted by Nobbie Q It's okay to get the crowd hyped

Right, with the music, not your talking.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Tip: Don't ever, ever, do that again. Nobody came to hear your voice.

carl cox and donald glaude disagrees with you

Well the crowd starting to cheer and clap more. I don't think a bit of interactivity hurted obviously. But I get how if it's frequent then it's gets annoying. I personally liked it when Steve angello in jan 2010 would come on the mic and say random shit. not only was he playing good but it's nice to see the DJ not avoiding the crowd

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