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Originally posted by The Highroller As an aside, speaking to the viability of Friday nights at Stereo in Montreal, I was at Rouge before I went to Stereo, and not a single person I talked to had even heard of Stereo. To me, this was not only disappointing, but also seemed a little concerning. The fact that no one had even heard of Stereo to me indicates that Stereo's promoters should be doing a little better job about getting the word out.

I'd prefer it if the people who went to Rouge steered way clear from Stereo lol.. Rouge isn`t that bad a place, I go there every once in a while but the people who go there aren`t afterhours type people. Half the time they play rock music at Rouge.

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Originally posted by Maher Daniel Some of you may say I'm full of shit some of you may say whatever but for a city that says they are all about house music and tech house and techno I'm surprised no one is out to see a legend. At work

Why don't you move then, Mr. Daniel?

Otherwise, if you chose to stay in this city that has so let you down, may I suggest... attributing your own failures to other people will not lead to people recognizing your talents or that which you're promoting. Encouraging, positive actions are recommended.

lol first of all,rouge?ew
second,not everyone knows what an afterhours club is in the first place.
its all about the hype,and for civilians(as in non club owners,non djs,non promoters)they only care about where the next good party is,if ur competing against a club who brought in a better dj with a bigger hype,then thats where most ppl will go. Why? because civilians dont care about loyalty to a club,they only care about where the best party is and where all there friends will be.

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Originally posted by JamesBrown Why don't you move then, Mr. Daniel? Otherwise, if you chose to stay in this city that has so let you down, may I suggest... attributing your own failures to other people will not lead to people recognizing your talents or that which you're promoting. Encouraging, positive actions are recommended.

Relax there buddy, i understand where he's coming from. For a couple of weeks i kept saying to myself i was going to go to this and when the night came it didn't work out. Do i feel disappointed in myself, not really. But this was the type of night I've been wanting to experience at Stereo and i didn't go. Especially on a Friday night, the last one i went to was Carlo Lio and i could honestly say it was my least favorite night at Stereo.

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Originally posted by McNasty Relax there buddy, i understand where he's coming from. For a couple of weeks i kept saying to myself i was going to go to this and when the night came it didn't work out. Do i feel disappointed in myself, not really. But this was the type of night I've been wanting to experience at Stereo and i didn't go. Especially on a Friday night, the last one i went to was Carlo Lio and i could honestly say it was my least favorite night at Stereo.

Do you blame the city for your least favorite night at Stereo?
Seems like the fault lies with Stereo, if not yourself too...
I'd say the same of Maher.

It's not kind to blame the masses, is all I'm saying...
Like, if they cared, they would go.
If they liked what they heard, they would probably show so.
If not, there's a problem, and the problem is probably not theirs.

And if it is...
Economics?
Maybe they're too poor to afford Stereo's door!
Ha!

Lower the price, Maher! Free entry for all!!! :-D

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Originally posted by JamesBrown Do you blame the city for your least favorite night at Stereo? Seems like the fault lies with Stereo, if not yourself too... I'd say the same of Maher. It's weird to blame the masses, is all I'm saying...

:-)

I love this city!
Love you too, Maher!
... but only as my nemesis. 0_0


Ah-hahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!1

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Originally posted by soundbk lol first of all,rouge?ew second,not everyone knows what an afterhours club is in the first place. its all about the hype,and for civilians(as in non club owners,non djs,non promoters)they only care about where the next good party is,if ur competing against a club who brought in a better dj with a bigger hype,then thats where most ppl will go. Why? because civilians dont care about loyalty to a club,they only care about where the best party is and where all there friends will be.

what kind of stupid reply is this? Rouge, Chez Serge or Laboom, who gives a shit where Stereo or afterhours clients are coming from.

Where does this stupid idea come from that cool after hours are the ones that no one heard off. How are these afterhours supposed to survive? Look at Stereo, it's not profitable, never was, always needs to be bailed out.

Another example, Black and Blue, you speak to "civilians" and they never heard of it, how is this event supposed to survive when the regulars have grown up?

Highroller has a very good point!

The regulars got older and the replacement people (the younger generation) aren't being targeted or they are being ignored.

Both Toronto and Montreal are having an issue filling clubs. What happens when your regulars semi-retire and the younger people aren't coming out to support? That's a big challenge for all those bookers and marketing guys out there.

seems kind of harder for a city like montreal where most of the people are attracted to those top 40 type of clubs especially people from out of town.

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Originally posted by JamesBrown Why don't you move then, Mr. Daniel? Otherwise, if you chose to stay in this city that has so let you down, may I suggest... attributing your own failures to other people will not lead to people recognizing your talents or that which you're promoting. Encouraging, positive actions are recommended.

I wish you didn't edit your original post.

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Originally posted by soundbk loyalty to a club,they only care about where the best party is and where all there friends will be.

Now that I reread this, you don't even make any sense. People are loyal even to top 40 clubs where their friends are and where they are having a good time. What international dj or big show top 40 clubs do hire? NONE. Still you see the same people over and over at the same club.

Go back to your drawing board and rethink your stuff, you're way off.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I wish you didn't edit your original post.

or the second post.

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seems kind of harder for a city like montreal where most of the people are attracted to those top 40 type of clubs especially people from out of town.

What city doesn't have this problem, apart from maybe Berlin. At heart were all a bunch of music geeks that love following up, reading and discovering music, new or old. I think to people like us we put these DJ's on a higher level then what they actually are, so its strange when the regular joe doesn't know who so & so DJ is or what a good club is to us.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I wish you didn't edit your original post.

A buddy suggested the original text wouldn't be helpful... ;-)

There's nothing wrong with this city and there certainly isn't anything wrong with the Montreal crowd. If you compared this city to almost all the other cities out there, we'd definitely rank in the top percentile.

What I do see is a lack of creativity in Montreal as well as a fear of taking risks. If people don't show up to a party it's no ones fault except for the one's throwing it. It's as simple as that.

And lately we have been extremely spoiled with the amount of good djs coming to town, which also contributes to the fact that some quality events are a bit emptier than they should be.

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Originally posted by McNasty or the second post. What city doesn't have this problem, apart from maybe Berlin. At heart were all a bunch of music geeks that love following up, reading and discovering music, new or old. I think to people like us we put these DJ's on a higher level then what they actually are, so its strange when the regular joe doesn't know who so & so DJ is or what a good club is to us.

I see your point but i don't know a lot of people who care about Chez Damier, and even Jimpster as a matter of fact, Music geeks included. These bookings, for a Friday night in afterhours are risky business...

Edit: PrinceSultan is right, you need to be more creative and stop relying only on the DJs you booked. Sona days are over. People want DJs but More importantly a good party.

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Originally posted by Big Boss The regulars got older and the replacement people (the younger generation) aren't being targeted or they are being ignored. Both Toronto and Montreal are having an issue filling clubs. What happens when your regulars semi-retire and the younger people aren't coming out to support? That's a big challenge for all those bookers and marketing guys out there.

the blog electro house scene is fucking huge in Montreal, I Love Neon are probably one of the biggest promoters in the city.. it's kinda house, but there's no song structure.. and it's loud and noisy and everyone's completely shit hammered. Dubstep and mash up hip hop electro, all that shit is so huge. The Deadmau5 stuff.. if you can target these kids into liking real house.. there's your replacements.

The scene would be better off dying than incorporating those kids. The only similarity between the two is that fact that there's a DJ playing prerecorded music. I'm not knocking them, I'm sure they enjoy what they are into, but the two have nothing to do with each other.

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Originally posted by WittyHandle The scene would be better off dying than incorporating those kids. The only similarity between the two is that fact that there's a DJ playing prerecorded music. I'm not knocking them, I'm sure they enjoy what they are into, but the two have nothing to do with each other.

the thing is, they're fucking kids. 17-19 years old fresh off their Metallica obsession.. listening to noisy dance music and getting super hammered. They'll grow up and out of it if you expose them to the techno/house scene in a few years.

I dunno, when you guys were 18 were you popping pills and partying until 10am? Give them some time they'll mature.

I'm all for giving people time to mature. I'm not judging them forever. I have seen what bringing in some of that crowd has done to the afterhours scene in 2005 when electro kicked in, and it was awful. You said it yourself, some of those kids go to Stereo on Friday nights and the crowd sucks. Let them get exposed by friends dragging them in on a decent Saturday and acclimating them.

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Originally posted by corjay9 the thing is, they're fucking kids. 17-19 years old fresh off their Metallica obsession.. listening to noisy dance music and getting super hammered. They'll grow up and out of it if you expose them to the techno/house scene in a few years. I dunno, when you guys were 18 were you popping pills and partying until 10am? Give them some time they'll mature.

So... are you saying that popping pills and partying until 10am is something that mature people do? 0_0

Don't attack "fucking kids" with your prejudices, you fucking idiot.

Montreal rocks guys. It's even rocking a little too much.

Right now we are testing the very limits of what a small city like this one can handle.

2 after-hours clubs in the top 100 DJ mag, PIknic, Igloofest, Montreal en lumi�res, fantastic bookings, bal en blanc, black & blue.....

Never seen winter so alive in Montreal. Its usually dead. We had so much this year.

I was in New York last week-end for Ben Klock, and the vibe doesn't even compare to here.

I lived in London, Los Angeles, Sydney.... and althought they are great cities, Montreal is truely unique.

Promoters and artists from Toronto and NY writting to me saying that they want to move here, that we kick ass.

Most guests I bring are having a hard time just findind a second gig in North America.

People that haven't travelled much may think that other cities are SO much better. That everything is SO great and life would be SO much better.

The fact is most of them aren't.

Like a lot of Montreal djs/producers that can't wait to travel the world because Montreal doesn't "get it".

Believe me, if Montreal doesn't get it and you can't get a crowd moving here, most of the world won't neither.

Places like Germany are an exception, a really tiny %. Then again, Germany has it's own problems, like employment.

I think what people could do if they really enjoy a night, is to help it and pass the word around, try to bring people with you. Spread the joy.

But as promoters we do have to find better ways then Facebook to reach our audience. Honestly, It's very hard to figure that one out.

I am way too old and tired to go out and party every week-end trying to recrute new audiences. That's why we do need help from the younger people.

PS: this is not a reply to Maher's comment rather than the general discussion about Montreal

Another good example is that I went to see The Rangers VS Tampa Bay sunday afternoon. You would think it would be exciting since Tampa is a great team and Rangers are fighting for playoffs.. Madison Square Garden and all...

I was bored out my fckn mind. Not because of the game, but the crowd and overall ambiance. Light years away from Bell Center.

I heart Montreal

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Montreal rocks guys. It's even rocking a little too much. Right now we are testing the very limits of what a small city like this one can handle. 2 after-hours clubs in the top 100 DJ mag, PIknic, Igloofest, Montreal en lumi�res, fantastic bookings, bal en blanc, black & blue..... Never seen winter so alive in Montreal. Its usually dead. We had so much this year. I was in New York last week-end for Ben Klock, and the vibe doesn't even compare to here. I lived in London, Los Angeles, Sydney.... and althought they are great cities, Montreal is truely unique. Promoters and artists from Toronto and NY writting to me saying that they want to move here, that we kick ass. Most guests I bring are having a hard time just findind a second gig in North America. People that haven't travelled much may think that other cities are SO much better. That everything is SO great and life would be SO much better. The fact is most of them aren't. Like a lot of Montreal producers that can't wait to travel the world because Montreal doesn't "get it". Believe me, if Montreal doesn't get it and you can't get a crowd moving here, most of the world won't neither. Places like Germany are a really tiny % of that. I think what people could do if they really enjoy a night, is to help it and pass the word around, try to bring people with you. Spread the joy. But as promoters we do have to find better ways then Facebook to reach our audience. Honestly, It's very hard to figure that one out. I am way too old and tired to go out and party every week-end trying to recrute new audiences. That's why we do need help from the younger people.

great post mang

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