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you've the same taste as me, i used to go jogging with this in the 2009 summer, personally i love the chorus vocals, there is an Avenger remix which is fine apart from the dub and club mixes, but you have 2-3 tracks like this every year, a bit sad.

I think you're right about that.

I guess i have lost my taste for this kind of uplifting diarrhea.
And no, i'm not following somebody else's opinion now.
It must have something to do with me discovering all kinds different variations of trance, especially good uplifting, good prog, good fullon psy, etc.
While 5 years ago i might have liked these kinds of tracks with this uplifting sound, it has been stale for too long now.
I want something different, not just the same shit regurgitated over and over again.
May the power of variation compel you, uplifting trance.

this is not shit and generic uplifting trance sir, you can like other genres completely different to uplifting trance and still like this.

It always surprises me that people first do like certain music and then don't like it any more. I wonder if at the time they did like it, they liked far more tracks compared to the people who like a certain genre for a long time.
I'm 100% certain that I would have liked the uplifting tracks I like today 17 years ago. Tracks I didn't like back then I still don't like.
I noticed that friend of mine liked much more tracks then I, while I was much more of a fan of that sort of music. I guess they just were less picky.

i don't think it's because they got tired due to "abusing" the genre , i honestly don't believe those who loved something and now hate it with all his soul, when you are 12 years old you like something and with 30 you can hate it, but not because you're beyatring your principles, just because what you listened at that time was probably just marketed shit, it's incredible how easy is to trick a youth, specially girls, i've a 15 year old sister and i know what i am talking about, phenomenoms like Justin Bieber Hanna Montana etc are only sucessful because they target this predictable crowd, an expensive marketing campaign won't work for 25 year old ladies for examples, they have grown up enough to have the criteria to distinguish between shit music and plain music (although sometimes i doubt it seeing my friends)

But if you listened to trance when you were 20 and now you are 25 you hate it... well are you sure you really loved it, does your "love" owe to a trend of your friends, society ?� I used to listen to heavy metal a looot i thought it was the best thing in the world, even better than electronica, now i rarely listen to it but i still like it, i recovered my Rammstein cds to achieve the tedious task of assembling ikea stuff :P so i consider that my tastes are the same, they have just been expanded and evolved.

I have noticed something also, young people apart from liking pop/rock/commercial garbage (actually a child who enjoys anything different instead of considering he has a great personality is considered as a freak or idiot, it's part of the commercial business scheme) if they happen to enjoy something different for it they usually go for really high pitched sounds, look at your city 15-18th crowd and you'll see they like Basshunter,Headhunterz,Scooter,Cascada,Inna etc etc... when you grow older you start to like deeper and darker sounds, you can still enjoy this sounds no doubt but you look at techno with different eyes.

I usually compare it with your drink tastes, when you are a child you like Coke,Sugar Juices etc... when you are a youth most people like soft and sweet drinks like Malibu, Rum then you start liking beer and wine more and more... and you become a fucking alcoholic.

To me it's also liking new genres next to the older ones. Not listening those older ones indeed doesn't mean you don't like them any more. But I read several times over here people now hate a genre they loved before. I find that hard to image.

About the drinking... I started drinking beer when I was like 18 years old, now 36 I hardly drink beer any more. I'm not afraid for becoming an alcoholic

well by the time i become 36 i hope i've get rid of beer but now in my twenties i'm fine with it :P

To be clear, I hardly drink alcohol any more, don't need it and don't miss it.

Off topic: my friend Lisaya made a new track and next to that he now even made the video himself. He drove around in twillight and almost ended up in my street .
If you like cycling you can recognize the Amstel Gold Race roads and hills which will be on tv next month
Lisaya - Elvira (Original Extended Mix) [HQ + HD]

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Originally posted by Euforix I drank first time booze when I was 6 years old. Now I'm on different kinds of chemical substances. Being alcoholic is nothing.

Thought alcohol is really expensive in Finland, or is it in Sweden?

sigh

I'm sure back in the 40's while rock and roll was being developed, people who listened to jazz and skiffle turned their noses away from it, saying they're "ruining" the guitar by doing something as awful as distorting the sound. Who the fuck would do such a thing? And look where we are now. People who most likely whined about it back then are forgotten and the instrument and genres it's influenced has morphed into something completely different.

So why the fuck is it that when someone like Blueman comes around, everyone immediately hates the guy? Yeah, he made 2-3+ minute long breakdowns popular, and people emulate him, because he fucking perfected it. He has his own sound. Yeah it's unfortunate that he's emulated so much, but how does that have any basis on whether or not the genre itself is bad? It just means a lot of kids with little creativity picked up a hobby emulating him and other artists, and a lot of producers with no creativity decided to cash in on the attention he got by mimicing it.

That has nothing to do with the quality of the genre. Unfortunately we're exposed to a larger amount of shit thanks to living in the digital age, and DJs seem to have a lower standard of quality thanks to it, but anyone who immediately shudders when thinking "uplifting trance" or "Andy Blueman" because of that is just a closed-minded tool. Just because the sound of trance is changing doesn't mean the genre is being killed any more than skiffle was killed by rock and roll in the 60's. Music is constantly changing.

The only thing that doesn't change are whiny little snobs bitching about how modern music is ruining everything that was great about music from era X that they prefer. Well era X replaced era Y which replaced era Z and during all those times, there were people who preferred something else, and would be just as shocked by what you like as you are by uplifting trance. And they were just as wrong as you are.

tl;dr: you're all idiots, trance isn't dead, shut up and like what you like and quit bitching about the stuff you don't.

Blueman did not make three minute breakdowns popular. Blueman isn't doing anything very new at all, as far as I can tell. To compare him to the founders of modern pop music for turning epic trance maximalism up to 11 is pretty pretentious, really.

Andy Blueman's music is pretty generic.

Nice to listen to, but generic.

I don't understand why he gets so much attention (from both fans and haters).

For the record, I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Andy Blueman retired from trance to focus on film scores.

i don't like Blueman for his innovation, that classical concept of uplifting trance is older, but his breakdowns are really like a film score, are enjoyable, the other producers just play some digital string chords

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Originally posted by Euforix It's more cheaper here than in Sweden, but we all Finns get our liquors from Estonia.

Think due to the temperature you guys need alcohol at a younger age, that at least sounds good to start at an age of six

Heidi is just another generic supersaw trancer

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Originally posted by Redd Heidi is just another generic supersaw trancer

where are the supersaws?

I like those generic supersaws which sound different

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos i don't like Blueman for his innovation, that classical concept of uplifting trance is older, but his breakdowns are really like a film score, are enjoyable, the other producers just play some digital string chords

You obviously haven't heard Geert Huinink and Aalco Laamers productions.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos where are the supersaws?

In between the drums. Maybe it was just so generic I automatically assumed it was supersaws in it.

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Originally posted by osterzone How many times are you guys going to regurgitate these same redundant talking points? After years and years of bitching, you idiots still can't get it through your heads that people listen to uplifting trance and enjoy it?

apperently not.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 You obviously haven't heard Geert Huinink and Aalco Laamers productions.

No but obviously Epos - Vivagio and other similar tracks already existed, he just made them popular again.

i've a found a track that it's a real gem in the 2011 context, i miss a softer kick but i think it has some brilliant elements

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos i've a found a track that it's a real gem in the 2011 context, i miss a softer kick but i think it has some brilliant elements

Nice relaxing track, not a surprise that I like it I guess.

What do you think of this track my friend Lisaya made? No vocals this time, but a self made video
To be clear, I'm not Lisaya, he's a friend and relative.

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