Epic Mac Pwn. Maybe not so secure after all?

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Posted by FuzzQi on Mar-11-2011 10:41:

I thought the sentence was funny

Posted by 112268 on Mar-11-2011 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Did you even look at the article, or my post talking about how much one of their products sucks?

no

Posted by changosanch on Mar-11-2011 17:25:

lol apple haters.

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-11-2011 17:57:

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Originally posted by Seandroid

It took 2 weeks to actually find and write the exploit. It doesn't matter how long it takes to actually execute it, that says nothing about OS security and everything about the speed of the hacker. And Apple's already released updates for Safari that patch the exploit.

This seriously DOES NOT mean anything.

What, do you think that most viruses are written in an hour? All that the conference shows is that the whole "I'm invulnerable to malware because I have a Mac" notion is completely flawed. Macs are susceptible just like Windows-based computers are. Basically the point is that if you feel secure on your computer, you're wrong. You're never secure. Ever.

Posted by djnitride on Mar-11-2011 18:14:

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-11-2011 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride

You win, sir.

I'm bi-winning. I win here and I win there. Now what?

Posted by Seandroid on Mar-11-2011 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
What, do you think that most viruses are written in an hour? All that the conference shows is that the whole "I'm invulnerable to malware because I have a Mac" notion is completely flawed. Macs are susceptible just like Windows-based computers are. Basically the point is that if you feel secure on your computer, you're wrong. You're never secure. Ever.

Exactly, I SAID THAT in my post! I said SPECIFICALLY this:

"It literally means nothing; and regardless of that, everybody has always known that the reason Macs don't get viruses is because they're in the minority in terms of market share so nobody writes viruses for them. This is NOT new."

I have a feeling you're not reading anything that I'm writing.

My point is: IT MEANS NOTHING that the Mac was hacked FIRST. The amount of time it takes to execute a virus doesn't have anything to do with anything, if any OS in the world was truly secure there wouldn't be a way for you to exploit it in the first place.

That's like having someone on Linux, Mac OS and Windows produce a song in their respective OS, then load that song into the media player and the first one to play the song WINSSSSSSS.

Who cares!? The point is that the security flaw shouldn't have been there in the first place, not how long it takes to execute it.

The Mac OS currently IS virus free, but not because it's somehow more secure! Its simply because it's the minority platform.

quote:
Basically the point is that if you feel secure on your computer, you're wrong. You're never secure. Ever.

Right, I said that too:

"Exactly, you shouldn't be using a consumer OS if you're really that pathetic at keeping yourself safe online."

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-11-2011 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
Exactly, I SAID THAT in my post! I said SPECIFICALLY this:

"It literally means nothing; and regardless of that, everybody has always known that the reason Macs don't get viruses is because they're in the minority in terms of market share so nobody writes viruses for them. This is NOT new."

I have a feeling you're not reading anything that I'm writing.

My point is: IT MEANS NOTHING that the Mac was hacked FIRST. The amount of time it takes to execute a virus doesn't have anything to do with anything, if any OS in the world was truly secure there wouldn't be a way for you to exploit it in the first place.

That's like having someone on Linux, Mac OS and Windows produce a song in their respective OS, then load that song into the media player and the first one to play the song WINSSSSSSS.

Who cares!? The point is that the security flaw shouldn't have been there in the first place, not how long it takes to execute it.

The Mac OS currently IS virus free, but not because it's somehow more secure! Its simply because it's the minority platform.

Right, I said that too:

"Exactly, you shouldn't be using a consumer OS if you're really that pathetic at keeping yourself safe online."

Wow. Chill the fuck out I'm not even arguing with you.

Posted by Seandroid on Mar-11-2011 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Wow. Chill the fuck out I'm not even arguing with you.

I'm not even mad. :P

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-11-2011 23:32:

Then forget where your caps lock key is.

Posted by Seandroid on Mar-11-2011 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Then forget where your caps lock key is.

I PREFER TO USE THE SHIFT KEY BECAUSE I FORGET CAPS LOCK IS ON.

And really man there are like 5 caps words in there

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-11-2011 23:51:

There's actually 9, which is 9 more than is necessary to get your point across without looking like a prick.

Posted by djnitride on Mar-12-2011 00:16:

being paranoid and having a sense of false security are the only two perspectives on computer security.

You are either paranoid or have a false sense of security.

Posted by Seandroid on Mar-12-2011 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
There's actually 9, which is 9 more than is necessary to get your point across without looking like a prick.

I can't believe you actually bothered to count them, lol. Jesus. I'm just too lazy to type out bbcode bold tags. I don't know, I just kind of use caps where there'd be inflection if I were to say it, not yelling lol.

MEH, on a scale of how big of a deal this is I'd probably give it a 0.0002.

Posted by Redd on Mar-12-2011 01:48:

"lol apple haters" is kinda like Hitler going "lol anyone hatin on my genocide"

I didn't know how bad it was until I visited california when iphone 4 was released. The US isn't much worse than the rest of the world, I can admit that much, but damn that was a new low for humanity in my eyes. You guys are seriosly eating apples dick to an astronomical extent. And the world follows. Just like the dickwads who thinks Jersey Shore behavior is OK. Call me an Apple hater, I really don't care. What they're doing is discipable. And obviously genious. Viva la fucking capitalism.

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-12-2011 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
"lol apple haters" is kinda like Hitler going "lol anyone hatin on my genocide"

Posted by Redd on Mar-12-2011 01:58:

haha sorry srussel (dicks your username btw.), I've been drinking - I actually added "kinda" after writing that, but I guess it's still a bit strong.

Hey ho

Posted by djnitride on Mar-12-2011 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
"lol apple haters" is kinda like Hitler going "lol anyone hatin on my genocide"

I didn't know how bad it was until I visited california when iphone 4 was released. The US isn't much worse than the rest of the world, I can admit that much, but damn that was a new low for humanity in my eyes. You guys are seriosly eating apples dick to an astronomical extent. And the world follows. Just like the dickwads who thinks Jersey Shore behavior is OK. Call me an Apple hater, I really don't care. What they're doing is discipable. And obviously genious. Viva la fucking capitalism.

The sad thing is these problems are just symptoms of far bigger ones in American society...

Posted by Redd on Mar-12-2011 02:06:

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Originally posted by djnitride
The sad thing is these problems are just symptoms of far bigger ones in American society...

And not just America. You are good at being the leaders, but the rest of the world sure knows how to follow. Ten years ago there were no such thing as a "YOU MUST BUY GIFTS TO YOUR GF ON VALENTINES DAY" or even halloween here in Norway. Now it's almost the same as in the US. Capitalism wherever it comes from is a strong force. Oh and capitalism killed trance.

Posted by djnitride on Mar-12-2011 02:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
And not just America. You are good at being the leaders, but the rest of the world sure knows how to follow. Ten years ago there were no such thing as a "YOU MUST BUY GIFTS TO YOUR GF ON VALENTINES DAY" or even halloween here in Norway. Now it's almost the same as in the US. Capitalism wherever it comes from is a strong force. Oh and capitalism killed trance.

Captalism does not cater to finer tastes, only watered/dumbed down tastes that are nothing more than a shadow of their former selves to make as much money as possible.

All hail the mighty dollar! Capitalism sucks, but it gives me a job.

Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-12-2011 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
haha sorry srussel (dicks your username btw.)

Quoi?

Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Mar-12-2011 07:02:

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