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Oh yeah, might as well put it in here...mark your calendars people

Theresa is only defending the muslims because she was in an interracial relationship. She knows what it's like.

BARBEQU'RAN?

thanks for posting that vid mongoose.
not enough pedobear tho

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights islam is a religion of peace discuss

my 9 year old wife says yes

The argument, in a nutshell.

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Originally posted by Theresa Instead of just posting a picture, it would have been helpful to post a link to an article about whatever you're referencing. I presume you're talking about the bullshit bans on the niqab and burqa in France. Their justification for banning it is the biggest load of garbage I have ever heard and I think it sets a terrifying precedent. It's pretty scary when you start allowing the government to dictate what you can and cannot wear... next they will be banning skirts that are too short and t-shirts with offensive messages. Stay the fuck out of my closet and out of my personal business. Wearing a niqab/burqa does not impose any real threats to anyone other than making those who are already anti-Islam nervous. If you're going to claim safety, then you should ban ski-masks, any costume masks, wedding veils, beards, sunglasses, make-up etc. Anything that can distort your facial image and make it more difficult to identify you is arguably a threat. If it's about preserving secularism, then ban priest and nun garb, ban monk robes, ban people from wearing a cross, ban the turban, etc. etc. If it's about protecting these women's rights and giving them freedom... well then, they are simply confused. Taking away their right to wear what they want does not in some way give them rights or more freedom. As a result of this bullshit ban, many of these women are going to feel forced to live as hermits, never leaving their home. That does not promote freedom. Besides, banning something that you think is oppressive is not going to change the root of the problem. This is just poorly disguised discrimination and it pisses me off.

Maybe this can help you understand the concept behind this

La�cit� is a great thing, what Sarkozy is doing with it is a shame.

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Originally posted by Lira The argument, in a nutshell.

When the one with a rug said that our (western) freedom is false i wanted to punch her in the face.












































































Which I would be allowed to do if i was her husband.

It's their freaking culture. It's like telling an Jew not to wear their little hats. They do so willingly. I don't understand what is people's problem with other people's choices.

this forum lacks the laws of good old sharia. if someone disagrees with your fairytale beliefs, just fucking stone them to death

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Originally posted by LiquidX It's their freaking culture. It's like telling an Jew not to wear their little hats. They do so willingly. I don't understand what is people's problem with other people's choices.

The problem is that it interferes with the laws of society (identification and so forth). If you don't like the laws, you should move somewhere else.


The idea, however, that ALL women are forced to do this is stupid. Sure some or alot are, but a good portion, regardless, do this by choice (feminists' like lilith will laugh) but this is the truth. The women see the covering of their hair, for example, as a way for men in society to judge them based on their minds not their looks. An analogy would be if a women walked into your office in a bikini, would you really be interested on her 4th quarter report? or would you be more interested in a lap dance?

3 ninjas

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Originally posted by Moongoose And hoodies dont cause stabbings

I dunno, seeing people wear these things makes me want to get real stabby

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit The problem is that it interferes with the laws of society (identification and so forth). If you don't like the laws, you should move somewhere else. The idea, however, that ALL women are forced to do this is stupid. Sure some or alot are, but a good portion, regardless, do this by choice (feminists' like lilith will laugh) but this is the truth. The women see the covering of their hair, for example, as a way for men in society to judge them based on their minds not their looks. An analogy would be if a women walked into your office in a bikini, would you really be interested on her 4th quarter report? or would you be more interested in a lap dance?

The 4th quater report. Also i would tell her to put some clothes on unless its casual friday with a beach theme. You dont have to be gay to look beyond the hair, tits and ass and act towards a woman as simply another equal human being in any setting, business or otherwise. Unless of course one has a serious superiority complex in which case i would argue that the problem is on the mans side and that they should be chained up and blindfolded if they cannot restrain themselves.

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Originally posted by Moongoose The 4th quater report. Also i would tell her to put some clothes on unless its casual friday with a beach theme. You dont have to be gay to look beyond the hair, tits and ass and act towards a woman as simply another equal human being in any setting, business or otherwise. Unless of course one has a serious superiority complex in which case i would argue that the problem is on the mans side and that they should be chained up and blindfolded if they cannot restrain themselves.

Yeah i think you would still be more interested in the lap dance, especially if it came with a good 4th quarter report, regardless it would be innaporpriate behaviour on her behalf. Anyways my argument here is that, for alot of these women, the reason why they wear the hijab is for equality. I personally don't agree with it but that is their reasoning. Although i made an extreme example, the appropriateness of dress does leave an impression of a person's demeanor. Alot of these women are simply amplifying that notion into saying they do not want to be judged by their looks at all, and instead want to be judged by their capabilities.

This of course reverts back to the religious ideology to which the premise of the hijab is perhaps a deterent from violating one of the ten commandments (coveting ones wives n shit).

So Hijab would be analogous to a kepa (as in a preferred head dress), my only grime would be the "nikab" and how it conflicts with the general laws of society. In this case it should be banned.

If you are going to restrict religious atire from groups with no conflict with laws, might as well do them all equally. That would go for the sikhs, jews, muslims christians (if they have any) etc.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit Yeah i think you would still be more interested in the lap dance, especially if it came with a good 4th quarter report, regardless it would be innaporpriate behaviour on her behalf. Anyways my argument here is that, for alot of these women, the reason why they wear the hijab is for equality. I personally don't agree with it but that is their reasoning. Although i made an extreme example, the appropriateness of dress does leave an impression of a person's demeanor. Alot of these women are simply amplifying that notion into saying they do not want to be judged by their looks at all, and instead want to be judged by their capabilities. This of course reverts back to the religious ideology to which the premise of the hijab is perhaps a deterent from violating one of the ten commandments (coveting ones wives n shit). So Hijab would be analogous to a kepa (as in a preferred head dress), my only grime would be the "nikab" and how it conflicts with the general laws of society. In this case it should be banned. If you are going to restrict religious atire from groups with no conflict with laws, might as well do them all equally. That would go for the sikhs, jews, muslims christians (if they have any) etc.

I can understand requiring a woman wearing a niqab to reveal her face when getting government services (such as health care, or flying etc.). I totally agree with that because seeing the face is crucial to quick and easy identification, and in a society where we need to do that from time to time, it isn't unreasonable to expect them to comply.

But to tell them that they can't wear it at all, even just walking down the street to get some groceries, is total bullshit imo.

It's a violation of their rights, and I hope they fight it and get the law rescinded.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit Yeah i think you would still be more interested in the lap dance, especially if it came with a good 4th quarter report, regardless it would be innaporpriate behaviour on her behalf. Anyways my argument here is that, for alot of these women, the reason why they wear the hijab is for equality. I personally don't agree with it but that is their reasoning. Although i made an extreme example, the appropriateness of dress does leave an impression of a person's demeanor. Alot of these women are simply amplifying that notion into saying they do not want to be judged by their looks at all, and instead want to be judged by their capabilities.

I seriously woudnt. Not only because i find lapdances pointless but because business is one of the things i take seriously. There is a time for fun and games and that time is after the work for the day is done. But diring the business hours i woudnt care if a hot coworker strode into my office naked, she can wait, work cant.

And i would love to see some figures as to why they actualy wear it, because i would argue that more of them wear it because of their upbringing or because they think that they have to, and some because they actually have to under penalty of bodily harm or death. Even in the western world im not even mentioning the middle east.

Also, the argument that they have to wear something to appear equal means that they are not in fact equal.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit This of course reverts back to the religious ideology to which the premise of the hijab is perhaps a deterent from violating one of the ten commandments (coveting ones wives n shit). So Hijab would be analogous to a kepa (as in a preferred head dress), my only grime would be the "nikab" and how it conflicts with the general laws of society. In this case it should be banned. If you are going to restrict religious atire from groups with no conflict with laws, might as well do them all equally. That would go for the sikhs, jews, muslims christians (if they have any) etc.

Well the koran instructs women and men both to dress modestly, yet somehow that part about the men is usually forgotten but god forbid a woman should forget about it. So its more of a case of institutionalised repression under the cloak of morality.

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Originally posted by Theresa But to tell them that they can't wear it at all, even just walking down the street to get some groceries, is total bullshit imo. It's a violation of their rights, and I hope they fight it and get the law rescinded.

If i see someone with a covered face entering a store (even if they are only there to buy groceries) im assuming they are there to rob a place so im calling the police or sneak behind them to punch them out. Im throwing off my shiny liberal cape on this one and jumping into the dark cesspool of conservatism and am hoping that they find a way to make the law even tougher.

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Originally posted by Moongoose If i see someone with a covered face entering a store (even if they are only there to buy groceries) im assuming they are there to rob a place so im calling the police or sneak behind them to punch them out. Im throwing off my shiny liberal cape on this one and jumping into the dark cesspool of conservatism and am hoping that they find a way to make the law even tougher.

Well it's obvious that you're an idiot, so hopefully when you call the police they throw your dumb ass in jail.

Dont know how things are where you live, but in the civilised world, cops dont arrest good citizens, that help prevent a robbery.

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Originally posted by Moongoose Dont know how things are where you live, but in the civilised world, cops dont arrest good citizens, that help prevent a robbery.

Where I live, women wearing the niqab and burqa is a very common occurrence. If you were wandering around ganking them or calling the police on them, you would be thrown in jail faster than I could tell you that you're a dumbass.

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Originally posted by Moongoose Which I would be allowed to do if i was her husband.

Me and arbiter already did this dance. And it was way more sophisticated than anything you plebs have come up with.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Me and arbiter already did this dance. And it was way more sophisticated than anything you plebs have come up with.

Of course it was.

Link?

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Originally posted by Theresa Where I live, women wearing the niqab and burqa is a very common occurrence. If you were wandering around ganking them or calling the police on them, you would be thrown in jail faster than I could tell you that you're a dumbass.

Must be something terribly wrong with you then that you arent able to say those few words in the 5 to 10 minutes that i estimate it would take for the police to respond to your call, unless by sheer coincidence they were standing right beside you. Might want to check into that, inability to speak could be a symptom of something serious.


Burkas and nijabs are all fun and games until you have to tackle the rather large and angry muslim man that first forced his wife to stash stolen goods under her dress and then decided to try to fight his way free when caught.

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