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Posted by Raphie on May-11-2011 07:24:

Don't think you have a long way to go, you've got vision and know what you're doing and are able to deliver a quality master engineering wise. the remainder boils down to the weapons of choice, taste, engineering skills (how to get there) and engineer decissions (though these are intwined with monitoring/room capabilities)

regarding the crunch, Try listening on a laptop or just highpass in your daw, it's not as appearant in the full mix, but highpassed it's quite obvious.

What u hear in my version is some parallel compression from the Distressors and some Tube Harmonics from the SPL Tube Mastering Vitalizer. While this helps on the density and getting the overall levels up, it also gives some nice round harmonic distortion which soothes the digital edge.

In the end it's all about expectations and what the client likes, communication is key.


Posted by DeanPokorny on May-11-2011 17:45:

First picture is Atlantis sample,second is Raphie.

http://**************/photo/my-image...ntissample.jpg/

http://**************/photo/my-image...phiesample.jpg/

Before-After sample Atlantis by Mastering samples

Before-After sample Raphie by Mastering samples

Before-After sample third by Mastering samples

As you can see there are some problems with both samples,
bass is masking midrange and it is heavily leaked.
You can volume up max your hi-fi to hear it.
Try to put bass under control.

Atlantis sample can be raised few RMS db,but his dynamics is better than Raphie. Raphie have destroyed more dynamics and because bass is masking midrange the loudness isn't that noticeable in club.

It isn't so important to destroy dynamics because of loudness because clubs audio system is big enough to handle even quieter songs. Most important is to fix muddy,to clear song so all parts come to expression,raise up quieter parts of song and add punch to kick.

Further, both samples have metallic sound in mid,upper freq that is harsh for ears,this can be fixed by removing those freq that are unpleasant for ears, and to bring mid to front.
When listen samples max up volume on hi-fi.
Nice to see that guys are trying to help people with their knowledge,nice work guys,keep it up!


Posted by Raphie on May-11-2011 18:26:

thanks for the comments, and uploading these on SC however you are aware that soundcloud waveforms are fictional? maybe your monitoring has a challenge with the midrange? what is the 3rd one? it sounds muffled? alos bit too much boost around 100hz.

BTW i also dropped a duller version on your soundcloud in order to make comparison with your version easier.

or download here


Posted by Atlantis-AR on May-11-2011 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DeanPokorny
As you can see there are some problems with both samples,
bass is masking midrange and it is heavily leaked.
You can volume up max your hi-fi to hear it.
Try to put bass under control.

Sounds like you can do better? How do you propose un-masking the mid range when the mix is already like that? I think I took care of all muddiness (including cutting the boominess at 65 Hz). And do you hear this "metalic" sound in the mix as well?

Does anyone else have any more tracks they want mastered? I've since mastered the music for a small game and my repertoire is growing. If you want a clean, professional, dynamic sound, drop me a line.


Posted by FredAcler on May-12-2011 12:27:

Hi there!

I was wondering if you could do something with this one?

Midway - Amazon (Fred Aclers 2011 Remix) [Preview] by FredAcler


Posted by Raphie on May-12-2011 14:01:

my first recommendation would be to remove everything from the master and lower your levels, though i love the original track, this version is just too excited/limited.


Posted by Atlantis-AR on May-12-2011 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by FredAcler
Hi there!

I was wondering if you could do something with this one?

Midway - Amazon (Fred Aclers 2011 Remix) [Preview] by FredAcler

Yeah please don't waste my time with already clipped versions. If you'd like me to master it then please provide me with an unmastered mix. It sounds like your mixing will need some work too but it's really hard to hear when you're distorting the sound so much.


Posted by FredAcler on May-12-2011 18:40:

Ok, sorry for wasting your time
Is there somewhere I can email you a "unmastered" version?


Posted by Atlantis-AR on May-12-2011 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by FredAcler
Ok, sorry for wasting your time
Is there somewhere I can email you a "unmastered" version?

Sure, you can email it to my Gmail listed in my profile.


Posted by FredAcler on May-12-2011 18:54:

Ok, great!! Will send u an email right away!


Posted by Severin on May-14-2011 22:12:

Mastering

I just read your post and I too am interested in having you master some of my new productions. There are just a few details that I would like to find out.


Posted by Atlantis-AR on May-14-2011 22:25:

Re: Mastering

quote:
Originally posted by Severin
I just read your post and I too am interested in having you master some of my new productions. There are just a few details that I would like to find out.

Great, those being? Or do you mean having someone else approach your tracks from a different perspective?


Posted by AlexChilcott on May-17-2011 23:12:

I REALLY hope you're still offering this in a couple weeks when I'll hopefully have something half decent done From your sample, it looks like you "gotz da skillz", as they say. Pretty generous offer of you, btw. Even if you're bored of it (or completely flooded with requests) before I get something decent ready, nice one.


Posted by Atlantis-AR on May-18-2011 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by AlexChilcott
I REALLY hope you're still offering this in a couple weeks when I'll hopefully have something half decent done From your sample, it looks like you "gotz da skillz", as they say. Pretty generous offer of you, btw. Even if you're bored of it (or completely flooded with requests) before I get something decent ready, nice one.

I'll defnitely try to.

I've also updated my original post with more information and a set of steps to follow.


Posted by Whip_lash on May-18-2011 17:36:

Hey Atlantis check your PM!


Posted by Ath Leete on May-21-2011 11:40:

Hi, I was looking for someone to master my track, not a lot do it for free and it seems you have good skills, so I'd be very happy if you can master my production.


Posted by G-Con on May-25-2011 07:33:

I just wanted to say a big thank you to Atlantis, I tok him up on his very generous offer. He did a great job and spent time making revisions to get the best possible outcome.

Thanks!!


Posted by FredAcler on May-25-2011 08:28:

I just wanted to say thanks too. I got alot of help from Atlantis, and he did an awesome job mastering my remix!!

http://soundcloud.com/fredacler/mid...red-aclers-2011


Posted by Atlantis-AR on Jun-02-2011 01:47:

Thanks guys! Here is a new sample of what my mastering can do: https://www.wetransfer.com/dl.php?c...c020c327cb3f6a2. The track is titled "Marcel Woods - Cherry Blossom (Magnetic Vision Remix)", and is again by Voci/Magnetic Vision. Raphie, how does it sound this time?


Posted by St.Croix on Jun-02-2011 02:10:

Hey Atlantis I've got a track I'm about to finish, would you be down to master it for me?

I'm not exactly sure what a mixdown is, what do I need to do/send you?


Posted by Atlantis-AR on Jun-02-2011 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by St.Croix
Hey Atlantis I've got a track I'm about to finish, would you be down to master it for me?

I'm not exactly sure what a mixdown is, what do I need to do/send you?

Hey there, a mixdown is generally the render of the combined channels without any master effects. So just make sure you have any master effects bypassed and render your track to WAV. Then, open the WAV in an audio editor and make sure the waveform's peaks don't hit the top or bottom; if they do, lower the master fader and render again until they reach about 6 dB below (the maximum peak hits about -6.0 dB).


Posted by Mise on Jun-02-2011 04:59:

I me be interested too..


Posted by St.Croix on Jun-02-2011 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Atlantis-AR
Hey there, a mixdown is generally the render of the combined channels without any master effects. So just make sure you have any master effects bypassed and render your track to WAV. Then, open the WAV in an audio editor and make sure the waveform's peaks don't hit the top or bottom; if they do, lower the master fader and render again until they reach about 6 dB below (the maximum peak hits about -6.0 dB).


Okay thanks! That was really helpful, but how do you master all the different individual sounds if you dont have access to them individually, say with the original .flp file (the project file of FL Studio - because thats the DAW I use).


Posted by Atlantis-AR on Jun-02-2011 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by St.Croix
Okay thanks! That was really helpful, but how do you master all the different individual sounds if you dont have access to them individually, say with the original .flp file (the project file of FL Studio - because thats the DAW I use).

Mastering involves editing the master channel only, or the rendered output in FL Studio. You mix your track down within FL Studio, applying effects to each channel etc., then you bypass or remove any master effects and send the rendered WAV file to me, and then by amazed at what I can do.


Posted by St.Croix on Jun-07-2011 08:29:

Smile

Sounds sick man! So how/where do I send you over my track?


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