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Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-16-2011 17:26:

palm, you're stupid.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-16-2011 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
All in all, the three disasters are very hard to compare on numerous scales.


+1


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 17:27:

themselfs. LOL!


Posted by Domesticated on Apr-16-2011 17:41:

Re: Haiti

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
On a serious and more literate note, Katrina almost completely decimated a city of over a million people. I'm not entirely sure about the exact numbers, but the Tsunami in Japan cause the evacuation of not even half that total.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/data...-donations#data

If you look at that site, you'll see that the US donated 4 times as much money to Haiti as the next highest country's donations. Whether it came from individual citizens or not, calling Americans assholes when their country donated 4 times as much money as the next is kind of misguided don't you think?


How is $218,669,974 "four times as much" as $169,854,764 (Canada's total)? Secondly, the US has a population of 307 million people, as opposed to Canada's 34 million. If Americans had donated at the same rate as the Canadians, they would have pledged around $1,500,000,000.

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/dat...2011/versions/1


Posted by Domesticated on Apr-16-2011 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
I'm not even American you fucking moron.


What are you then?


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Apr-16-2011 17:43:


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 17:51:

Re: Re: Haiti

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
How is $218,669,974 "four times as much" as $169,854,764 (Canada's total)? Secondly, the US has a population of 307 million people, as opposed to Canada's 34 million. If Americans had donated at the same rate as the Canadians, they would have pledged around $1,500,000,000.

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/dat...2011/versions/1



quote:
Haiti Aid Pledged By Country


Country Committed Funding
United States 41,268,315
Sweden 9,999,997
United Kingdom 8,086,517
Japan 7,159,000
Canada 6,815,969


Posted by runcmd on Apr-16-2011 17:57:

quite funny that sweden (which is about 8mill persons) gave 10 mill while the us are like 310mill gave 41 mill. poor bastards, how can you live with yourselfs! shame on you. youre a third world country!


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
What are you then?


Check the flag.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Apr-16-2011 18:05:

Le Freak - Meet The Wangs by Le Freak

i'm polish.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-16-2011 18:08:

No, you're obviously Arab.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Apr-16-2011 18:09:

hitler ate bacon bro.


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 18:09:

You're right. There are many Irish Arabs.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-16-2011 18:10:

Not you. Fuck.


Posted by Domesticated on Apr-16-2011 18:10:

Re: Re: Re: Haiti

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Haiti Aid Pledged By Country


Country Committed Funding
United States 41,268,315
Sweden 9,999,997
United Kingdom 8,086,517
Japan 7,159,000
Canada 6,815,969


Those figures are only for 2011, the year after the quake. The link I posted is for committed funding (as opposed to pledged) in both 2010 and 2011. Even if you look at the figures you're talking about, Canadians donated $4.83 per head in 2010, while Americans donated $3.84. Austrians donated $12.81 per head.

So you're Irish, but you live in America? Which country were you born in?


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 18:11:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Haiti

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Those figures are only for 2011, the year after the quake. The link I posted is for committed funding (as opposed to pledged) in both 2010 and 2011. Even if you look at the figures you're talking about, Canadians donated 4.83 million per head in 2010, while Americans donated 3.84. Austrians donated 12.81 million per head.

So you're Irish, but you live in America? Which country were you born in?


I was born in Ireland and have lived in the US since 2005, when I came here for college. Also, are those figures only pertaining to contributions from individuals, or the governments themselves?


Posted by Lira on Apr-16-2011 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
yes, I was unsure of what the article was referring to and was hoping for clarification from the OP.

also, Lira, why did you post a video of gas prices?

God, I hate CNN... let me fix that...


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Apr-16-2011 18:12:

the mick blood certainly explains the incoherency.


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Not you. Fuck.


You're still wrong. I know what you're talking about and I was referring to HardcoreTrancer, who is from....drum roll....Iran!


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Apr-16-2011 18:15:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
You're still wrong. I know what you're talking about and I was referring to HardcoreTrancer, who is from....drum roll....Iran!



Posted by gmilf on Apr-16-2011 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by runcmd
katrina got the most donations because Americans are assholes. Nothing more.

any objections to this?
I object to this. Anyone who claims that a large group of people are assholes without discretion is themselves an asshole. How in the hell is someone an asshole for giving their own money to help someone else. You cannot compare Katrina to Haiti because their are a lot of different factors involved. First of all, it costs a lot more money to get anything done in America, therefore more money was required. And t-bill was right about the time issue. Katrina was flooded for a long time compared to an earthquake. And, Katrina was a disaster on the part of the American government, so to say that we are assholes because we helped out the people of New Orleans so much more than Haiti or Japan is bullshit, enough has yet to be done for New Orleans. Aid is still being sent to Haiti and Japan will be helped out until they get things under control sure there is always going to be a want for more. But, this is life, sadly. It is not required for the US to help out the other countries at all. It is nice and good, and I admit that America makes a lot of poor decisions. But, on the same hand it becomes laughable when it seems that most of the world complains about America acting as governor until shit hits the fan and then they complain that they are not more involved.


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-16-2011 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by gmilf
But, on the same hand it becomes laughable when it seems that most of the world complains about America acting as governor until shit hits the fan and then they complain that they are not more involved.


+1


Posted by VAR on Apr-16-2011 18:24:

we need to quit helping people in disasters.
the world is getting overpopulated.


Posted by DJ Itchy Tits on Apr-16-2011 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by runcmd
do you seriously believe thats the reason? my god youre a fucking american looser. theres no difference between "american donations" or other donations. moron.


quoted for the irony, lulz, and posterity.


Posted by gmilf on Apr-16-2011 18:32:

Re: What don't New Orleans, Haiti and Japan have in common?

quote:
[i][b]

Why? Was it because we couldn't see Haitians shaking on TV during the earthquake, but we saw Japanese houses being washed away and we had even more footage from Katrina? Is it because Americans could relate to Southerners, the Japanese felt more compassionate towards North-Easterners, and Haitians had no one to turn to?

Any ideas?



Just a theory, but the Red Cross and other "non-profit" organizations started receiving a lot of bad press after Katrina. A large percentage of funds donated to certain organizations go towards running the organizations themselves and are never actually given over to the relief effort, the American Redcross currently keeps 9% of their funds for administrative costs. After finding this out I personally started trying to find organizations that gave more directly to the people in need, and I'd like to think that this accounts for a bit of the decline in donations.


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