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Originally posted by Taipan I, for example, do not have anxiety. However xanax makes me feel better . As I'm sure it does to most people. My point is its very hard to isolate the specific disorder. My suspiscion is everyone suffers from all diseases but to different degrees. Therefore its not so black and white. It's not like you have or dont have anxiety. It's more like to what degree does the anxiety impair your lifestyle.

That's a very good point. That's kind of what I was alluding to before when I asked "what is normal?" Lots of people have anxiety, and lots of people get depressed. It's almost impossible to define a "normal" person, and many Psychologists/Psychiatrists have been making the case that with the widespread diagnoses of depression, anxiety, etc., one could even make the case that a complete absence of any of the symptoms of these disorders might actually make someone not normal.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On That's why talking about things is good... albeit in a controlled environment, with a professional. Not to say that it can't be therapeutic for people to gush all over the public for better or worse, but it's not as though all talking is good talking.

But wouldn't you say it is impossible to control the environment. What I mean is everyone will have a different response to the same situation. The same two people who are chemically equally depressed could respond to it in completely different ways. Who is to say one person is more depressed than the other. Maybe one person is just naturally weaker than the other.

open the pod bay door, Hal.

She actually moved to Germany just a couple weeks ago. She worked Air Force Intel for 20 years and now in the last decade does counter-terrorism intelligence for some sort of contractor or another. I guess she isn't allowed to tell me much more about it, and I'm also not allowed in Cuba or Egypt. =/

Yeah but that's because you're Mexican, no?

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Originally posted by Taipan But wouldn't you say it is impossible to control the environment. What I mean is everyone will have a different response to the same situation. The same two people who are chemically equally depressed could respond to it in completely different ways. Who is to say one person is more depressed than the other. Maybe one person is just naturally weaker than the other.

I think he meant "environment" as in the environment where the issues were talked about, i.e. therapy.

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Originally posted by Miss Pie Yeah but that's because you're Mexican, no?

What? Borders mean nothing to my people.

And how does that make you feel?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On What? Borders mean nothing to my people.

Is that because your ppl don't read?

que?

http://www.borders.com/online/store/Home

That was actually a pretty good one.

Oh yes, that one place with the coffee shop. I used to clean one of those at night, I made $8.50!

I have ADD

I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia a few months ago. It was a shock to me because I didn't think it was interfering with my life very much. It's interesting the perception of that disease throughout most normal people in society. A lot of people mistake it for multiple personality disorders, etc. It's actually pretty easily treated, and doesn't really cause me any problems in my everyday life.

Please wake up, Stephen. Please. We miss you.

GID

the transgender community has to say they suffer from GID in order to receive insurance benefits. I think it's debatable whether or not it is an actual 'illness', but as long as they keep giving me discounts I'm sick as hell.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Please wake up, Stephen. Please. We miss you.

Schizoid, a 'disorder', not sure if it goes as a mental illness.

But not really. But almost.

Schizoid Personality Disorder? I believe that is in the ICD. That's the one where you lack an interest in forming relationships with others, being intimate etc.?

Yeah, that :P

Except it's not been diagnosed by an authority, I just match a lot of the symptoms. I talked about it a good friend of mine who is also a doctor and he agreed. He also agreed he's one to some extent.

But I guess it's far fetched to claim something like this without having it diagnosed properly. 7/10 fits, 2/10 to some extent. So it's not full blown at least. I function socially because I know I need to.

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Originally posted by Redd Yeah, that :P Except it's not been diagnosed by an authority, I just match a lot of the symptoms. I talked about it a good friend of mine who is also a doctor and he agreed. He also agreed he's one to some extent. But I guess it's far fetched to claim something like this without having it diagnosed properly. 7/10 fits, 2/10 to some extent. So it's not full blown at least. I function socially because I know I need to.

Right. I know a lot of people who fit a lot of the symptoms for various mental disorders, but have never been treated for them in their life, and function fairly well in normal society. Obviously some people don't have the ability to function at all in society, but to a certain extent some of these conditions are manageable on your own.

See: Dexter

And Redd...

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Originally posted by Miss Pie Dyslexia is actually any impairment in a person's ability to read, speak, or spell. It's not just switching letters.

I know, I was just pointing out the most 'crazy' one

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'Secret schizoid' According to Ralph Klein[14] there are many fundamentally schizoid individuals who present with an engaging, interactive personality style which contradicts the timidity, reluctance, or avoidance of the external world and interpersonal relationships as emphasized by the DSM-IV and ICD-10 definitions of the schizoid personality. Klein classifies these individuals as secret schizoids[14] who present themselves as socially available, interested, engaged, and involved in interacting in the eyes of the observer, while at the same time, he or she is apart, emotionally withdrawn, and sequestered in a safe place in his or her own internal world. So, while withdrawnness or detachment from the outer world is a characteristic feature of schizoid pathology, it is sometimes overt and sometimes covert. While it is overt it matches the usual description of the schizoid personality offered in the DSM-IV. According to Klein, though, it is "just as often" a covert, hidden internal state of the patient in which what meets the objective eye may not be what is present in the subjective, internal world of the patient. Klein therefore cautions that one should not miss identifying the schizoid patient because one cannot see the patient�s withdrawnness through the patient�s defensive, compensatory, engaging interaction with external reality. Klein suggests that one need only ask the patient what his or her subjective experience is in order to detect the presence of the schizoid refusal of emotional intimacy.[14] Descriptions of the schizoid personality as hidden behind an outward appearance of emotional engagement have long been recognized, beginning with Fairbairn's (1940) description of 'schizoid exhibitionism' in which he remarked that the schizoid individual is able to express quite a lot of feeling and to make what appear to be impressive social contacts but in reality giving nothing and losing nothing, because since he is only playing a part his own personality is not involved. According to Fairbairn, the person "...disowns the part which he is playing and thus the schizoid individual seeks to preserve his own personality intact and immune from compromise."[15] Further references to the secret schizoid come from Masud Khan,[16] Jeffrey Seinfeld,[17] and Philip Manfield,[18] who gives a palpable description of an SPD individual who actually "enjoys" regular public speaking engagements, but experiences great difficulty in the breaks when audience members would attempt to engage him emotionally.[19] These references expose the problems involved in relying singularly on outer observable behavior for assessing the presence of personality disorders in certain individuals.

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